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Title: Inspirational images
Post by: DivineSense on August 09, 2013, 12:23:19 pm
I thought it would be nice to start a thread with some inspiration for the devs. Nice pictures of nature and landscapes that we think Outerra should eventually look like :)

Here's one:
(http://binaryfortress.cachefly.net/Protected/expiretime=1377820800/905d9d639d2f12e24e70d7840ee11639/WPF/Images/3668/WallpaperFusion-mountain-view-1680x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: DivineSense on August 28, 2013, 11:10:31 am
NASA | From the Cockpit: The Best of IceBridge Arctic '13
NASA | From the Cockpit: The Best of IceBridge Arctic '13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkLrSMbJoU#)
By the way how do I embed videos in the forum? Solved ;)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Bartolomeus on August 28, 2013, 11:12:59 am
Really nice video!

Marko
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on March 03, 2014, 08:36:28 am
Multiple high quality pictures from space, shared by NASA :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/sets/72157641720644305/with/12866388595/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/sets/72157641720644305/with/12866388595/)
(Go to the album, right click, original scale for each picture)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7392/9291847289_75409eb473_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/9291847289/)
Storm Clouds Over the Atlantic Ocean Near Brazil (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/9291847289/#) par NASA Goddard Photo and Video (http://www.flickr.com/people/gsfc/)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4015/4541784127_6e7ec1aff7_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/4541784127/)
Earths Horizon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/4541784127/#) par NASA Goddard Photo and Video (http://www.flickr.com/people/gsfc/)

I better understand why Cameni said he have difficulties to make a multi-level world cloud coverage, in real time. This is so much massive and full of details...
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 03, 2014, 09:01:48 am
How about this? Its the hugest color map of earth I've ever seen. I had fun zooming in trying to resolve it to individual pixels. Files are absolutely Ginormous!  :o

Largest file is nearly 400 megs!

http://www.naturalearthdata.com/downloads/10m-raster-data/10m-cross-blend-hypso/ (http://www.naturalearthdata.com/downloads/10m-raster-data/10m-cross-blend-hypso/)

In the downloads section you will also find road data, train data, border data.......
It's a treasure trove!
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on March 03, 2014, 09:38:27 am
Those arctic pilots have my respect there - not much a safe airspace up there. Also, that Syuz photo has a something special, that would be nice in OT - those half-planet stretched cloud shadows in combination with atmospheric effects of the near downed sun. Remember to seeing one short vid (newer seen it again afterwards - was a long time ago too) where some russian craft in space was crossing to the dark side of earth and showed, how before it gone there, crossed an cloud-shadow - that is really THE EPIC lighting effect.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Planets on March 08, 2014, 10:37:25 pm
Space station photo is lovely, makes me wonder what happened to Outerra's old ISS model? It's gone now :(
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 08, 2014, 11:23:46 pm
Space station photo is lovely, makes me wonder what happened to Outerra's old ISS model? It's gone now :(

The way the physics work, at least at the moment, it probably fell out of orbit.  ;)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Planets on March 08, 2014, 11:48:07 pm
The way the physics work, at least at the moment, it probably fell out of orbit.  ;)

 And into the Pacific ocean  :'(

Well, at least we still have our trusty space destroyer Burke, patrolling the cosmic ocean

(http://i.imgur.com/XoorZcT.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 09, 2014, 12:15:53 am
Right next to the Space Battleship Yamato..........

Maybe Outerra will have massive space battles one day. (And we need caves to fly through!!!)

"Space Battleship Yamato" - Space Battle Compilation Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXnJr2fn-Uw#ws)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on March 09, 2014, 01:52:17 am

Well, at least we still have our trusty space destroyer Burke, patrolling the cosmic ocean


... youre sure you dont need the GPS ? Navigating with just a map and trammels is hard and im not sure about that mine-looking and constantly peeping thingy called "CCCP" were hitting all the time. ... it could get the gods angry.   .... i dont like that kraken guy, they keep sending, hugging me.

(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/32500/Sputnik-Painting--32507.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Planets on March 10, 2014, 12:09:15 am
and im not sure about that mine-looking and constantly peeping thingy called "CCCP" were hitting all the time. ... it could get the gods angry.   .... i dont like that kraken guy, they keep sending, hugging me.


That's no sputnik, it's a space mine!
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: professorx on March 10, 2014, 01:53:33 am
I this inspiration?
(http://i.imgur.com/F2kOwtF.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on March 13, 2014, 04:51:16 pm
Found some particle effect references.

http://youtu.be/KImm3rJkzcs (http://youtu.be/KImm3rJkzcs)

http://youtu.be/h3GfNNRrivA (http://youtu.be/h3GfNNRrivA)

http://youtu.be/ph-unwvtTd0 (http://youtu.be/ph-unwvtTd0)

http://youtu.be/RdrWRLcnhC4 (http://youtu.be/RdrWRLcnhC4)

http://youtu.be/8ug7ikR9wLQ (http://youtu.be/8ug7ikR9wLQ)

http://youtu.be/HWm_rG8Hs88 (http://youtu.be/HWm_rG8Hs88)

http://youtu.be/O6tT3FOgeow (http://youtu.be/O6tT3FOgeow)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ7LbYBOntw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ7LbYBOntw)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: DivineSense on July 20, 2014, 03:47:08 pm
I downloaded the free version of Vue and played a bit with it. Extremely slow, but quite amazing results. Of course nothing realtime, but for inspiration :) Vue uses procedural terrain and "ecosystems" that populate areas with plants et.c. I guess that's a bit like Outerra works.
(This is not my work, just a sample someone uploaded to youtube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYh7zs_1p2M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYh7zs_1p2M#ws)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on August 01, 2014, 06:59:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgAn3YHPu-g&index=3&list=UUqo1euqkWqrOT9r6fU6hKNQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgAn3YHPu-g&index=3&list=UUqo1euqkWqrOT9r6fU6hKNQ#ws)

Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on August 01, 2014, 08:29:06 pm
Some nice work!!! This is where I hope Outerra is going.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7CiyT1RNUY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7CiyT1RNUY#ws)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on August 01, 2014, 09:02:04 pm
Some nice work!!! This is where I hope Outerra is going.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7CiyT1RNUY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7CiyT1RNUY#ws)

I agree, that's exactly the kind of stuff that need to be in OT. Just can't imagine how they could do it on a world scale , like the field mapping...
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on August 01, 2014, 10:10:42 pm
Some nice work!!! This is where I hope Outerra is going.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7CiyT1RNUY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7CiyT1RNUY#ws)

I agree, that's exactly the kind of stuff that need to be in OT. Just can't imagine how they could do it on a world scale , like the field mapping...

Osm, I presume and something that fills in areas with "plausible" looking details. X-Plane 10 uses that technique, but I think Outerra could do it much better just by the nature of the engine.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: DivineSense on August 02, 2014, 08:53:34 am
Some nice work!!! This is where I hope Outerra is going.

Wow! those birch trees are amazing, and I love how they line up between the fields. Looks just like a trip outside town here :) That's really amazing, but I actually believe this is where Outerra is going. I know Cameni has talked about 3D trees, and making them sway should not be a problem. The fields are of course man made, and Anteworld is, well, before man ;) But I suppose if data could be imported that show areas of fields it would be possible to procedurally generate fields like this with plow lines and everything. I think the team needs to make a decision at some point to go for reality (as in roads, buildings, fields, forests) with everything placed like in real life. A true world sim, or just keep the "outlines" and let there be some creative freedom.

I guess Cameni can agree or disagree with me here, am I in the ballpark? :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on August 02, 2014, 09:13:55 am
Some nice work!!! This is where I hope Outerra is going.

Wow! those birch trees are amazing, and I love how they line up between the fields. Looks just like a trip outside town here :) That's really amazing, but I actually believe this is where Outerra is going. I know Cameni has talked about 3D trees, and making them sway should not be a problem. The fields are of course man made, and Anteworld is, well, before man ;) But I suppose if data could be imported that show areas of fields it would be possible to procedurally generate fields like this with plow lines and everything. I think the team needs to make a decision at some point to go for reality (as in roads, buildings, fields, forests) with everything placed like in real life. A true world sim, or just keep the "outlines" and let there be some creative freedom.

I guess Cameni can agree or disagree with me here, am I in the ballpark? :)

 ... or they do both ...
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: 2eyed on August 02, 2014, 11:31:49 am
Cameni, hire that guy! :D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: foxfiles on August 02, 2014, 11:59:54 am
Cameni, hire that guy! :D

yes do it !  :D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: DivineSense on August 02, 2014, 07:28:34 pm
I second that! :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: cameni on August 03, 2014, 04:29:59 am
The fields are of course man made, and Anteworld is, well, before man ;) But I suppose if data could be imported that show areas of fields it would be possible to procedurally generate fields like this with plow lines and everything. I think the team needs to make a decision at some point to go for reality (as in roads, buildings, fields, forests) with everything placed like in real life. A true world sim, or just keep the "outlines" and let there be some creative freedom.

I guess Cameni can agree or disagree with me here, am I in the ballpark? :)

Only the natural distribution is "before man", or actually rather "after man" because we only have modern data for elevation and biomes, and these already show the effect of Man. However, all artificial land changes are going to be modeled by vector overlays using similar system as the roads, where you have a parametrized spline that also knows how to modify the land materials, heights etc.

With fields you'll have polygons that alter the natural distribution, changing the texture and height profiles to the type specified with the polygon. Being procedural, it can be also in a transitional state between the natural and the assigned one.

Cameni, hire that guy! :D

So I just checked, he's from a relatively close city in Czech rep. I saw he also got an Anteworld account :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on August 04, 2014, 12:56:20 pm
The fields are of course man made, and Anteworld is, well, before man ;) But I suppose if data could be imported that show areas of fields it would be possible to procedurally generate fields like this with plow lines and everything. I think the team needs to make a decision at some point to go for reality (as in roads, buildings, fields, forests) with everything placed like in real life. A true world sim, or just keep the "outlines" and let there be some creative freedom.

I guess Cameni can agree or disagree with me here, am I in the ballpark? :)

Only the natural distribution is "before man", or actually rather "after man" because we only have modern data for elevation and biomes, and these already show the effect of Man. However, all artificial land changes are going to be modeled by vector overlays using similar system as the roads, where you have a parametrized spline that also knows how to modify the land materials, heights etc.

With fields you'll have polygons that alter the natural distribution, changing the texture and height profiles to the type specified with the polygon. Being procedural, it can be also in a transitional state between the natural and the assigned one.

Cameni, hire that guy! :D

So I just checked, he's from a relatively close city in Czech rep. I saw he also got an Anteworld account :)

Well, if you do decide to contact him, and you are both able and willing to work together, my hopes for Outerra would go even higher, as it looks like he has already attacked some of the issues you are working on. In his second video, I especially took note of the water reflections.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: DivineSense on August 07, 2014, 11:23:53 am
What's the deal with Czech people and world simulation programming? ;)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on August 07, 2014, 12:10:53 pm
I downloaded the free version of Vue and played a bit with it. Extremely slow, but quite amazing results. Of course nothing realtime, but for inspiration :) Vue uses procedural terrain and "ecosystems" that populate areas with plants et.c. I guess that's a bit like Outerra works.
(This is not my work, just a sample someone uploaded to youtube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYh7zs_1p2M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYh7zs_1p2M#ws)

I've looked at a lot of other solutions as well. Some are promising, but for real time, and complete range of features, Outerra is still out ahead. The I-novae engine is close behind, with what seems to be a complete lighting engine (nice!) but as for trees, roads, ships, planes, clouds......

Not quite yet.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on August 31, 2014, 03:03:33 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwXcHQ0CIAEk2Pc.jpg:orig)

Source: https://twitter.com/astro_reid/status/506052551377436672 (https://twitter.com/astro_reid/status/506052551377436672) (He's on the ISS, his whole account is really well known, but it's full inspirational material  :))
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on September 17, 2014, 10:55:41 pm
 :o 8) :)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=38rFK-pVgkk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38rFK-pVgkk#ws)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on September 18, 2014, 05:02:23 am
Really nice Hornet flying !
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: thx_nb on September 18, 2014, 07:14:37 am
I must say: this looks a lot more like how I fly the Mig in Outerra than I expected. For example, how he passes a ridge upside down.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on October 06, 2014, 09:13:59 am
Just stuff I like to look at; maybe the guys will like it too!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEWXbqI_be8
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on October 06, 2014, 11:45:29 pm

Cameni, hire that guy! :D

So I just checked, he's from a relatively close city in Czech rep. I saw he also got an Anteworld account :)

Maybe he's the competition!!  :o  ;D

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS6Z6aruaTE
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on January 02, 2015, 05:05:16 pm
Wow, so there is a live webcam in the ISS Oo !

http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/ForFun/HDEV/ (http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/ForFun/HDEV/)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on February 14, 2015, 12:40:32 pm
Someday maybe  in a far future in outerra .... =D

http://youtu.be/ATU6IGCMpUA
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 14, 2015, 12:49:39 pm
I think Bullit can already pull that off. Don't know if Outerra is set up to take advantage of it yet though.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 19, 2015, 03:10:19 pm
Well, we have a strong backbone of flight enthusiasts, a smaller cadre of land vehicle fans, a very tiny segment of boating guys and an unknown number of Space-sim guys.

Considering the obvious possibilities, especially considering the Oculus, we probably need more space guys.......

http://youtu.be/s4QkltClArw
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 19, 2015, 03:45:18 pm
Also, this guy looks like he is starting on a path that Outerra will eventually be following! Acetones dreams come true.  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICW-6YdftEw
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on February 19, 2015, 04:01:35 pm
Also, this guy looks like he is starting on a path that Outerra will eventually be following! Acetones dreams come true.  :D

Yep :) Being able to work on scenery detail rather than road mappind would be awesome, however I think we won't see a fully working OSM-Outerra import tool soon, with the level of detail provided by Outerra and the lack of elevation data in the OSM sources, tricky solutions will be necessary!

And to avoid topic pollution, a cool flight video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mieYuDB5zLM

It's a Jaguar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEPECAT_Jaguar) formation flight, training for air shows. According to the video, they reach 7/7.5 G max in this training. The sound is really cool and the close view of the lead plane pretty amazing :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on February 19, 2015, 04:11:44 pm
Well, we have a strong backbone of flight enthusiasts, a smaller cadre of land vehicle fans, a very tiny segment of boating guys and an unknown number of Space-sim guys.

Considering the obvious possibilities, especially considering the Oculus, we probably need more space guys.......

 ... ah ... just an voice communication simulation of an interface. I really hope to see one day an AI and have a chat with it ... think the halo-concept of an man / digital assistance unit would be an interesting experience.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 19, 2015, 04:27:26 pm
Well, we have a strong backbone of flight enthusiasts, a smaller cadre of land vehicle fans, a very tiny segment of boating guys and an unknown number of Space-sim guys.

Considering the obvious possibilities, especially considering the Oculus, we probably need more space guys.......

 ... ah ... just an voice communication simulation of an interface. I really hope to see one day an AI and have a chat with it ... think the halo-concept of an man / digital assistance unit would be an interesting experience.

Then you should read up on CYC, and CYCorp, the closest to a real ai we probably will get for quite a while. Right now, its wandering the web cataloging human knowledge and.... learning things. (ominous music)

http://www.cyc.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/03/cycorp-ai_n_5554318.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/cycorp-ai-2014-7

END THREAD DERAIL\  :D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 02, 2015, 04:44:06 pm
When I think about Outerra, This is what I can imagine it looking like at the end of the road.

http://youtu.be/2qpLCUA_1Ko
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on March 04, 2015, 04:54:56 am
Dslyecxi is a well known member of the Arma community and head of the Shack tactical group. He is really a big fan of heli in general and recently had the opportnity to take flight lessons. These videos are edited with post commentary with an emphasis on the difference between sim and reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhsJzsXDw2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOH6U2tupN8
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 04, 2015, 07:32:19 am
Nice videos! I absolutely suck in helicopters, though.......  =|
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on March 04, 2015, 12:44:48 pm
Perfect find Acetone ! .. must say, that instructor guy was really cool to cower so many stuff, so easily, on the first flight.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Uriah on March 04, 2015, 10:26:48 pm
Nice videos! I absolutely suck in helicopters, though.......  =|

'H' Key toggles hover mode, switching on the helicopter fly-by-wire system, allowing you to set pitch roll yaw, and the computer controls the aircraft to hold the desired angle.

Regards,
Uriah
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 06, 2015, 06:30:12 am
Nice videos! I absolutely suck in helicopters, though.......  =|

'H' Key toggles hover mode, switching on the helicopter fly-by-wire system, allowing you to set pitch roll yaw, and the computer controls the aircraft to hold the desired angle.

Regards,
Uriah

No..... Nothing has ever helped me control a copter in any sim, ever. I simply suck at it.

I crash them real good, though.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on March 06, 2015, 01:55:26 pm
No..... Nothing has ever helped me control a copter in any sim, ever. I simply suck at it.
I crash them real good, though.

... so there is just one single option for ya : Big jug full off belly-happy maker and a week of sunlight deprivation, cause you will be having a date ... with your joystick.

(http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/flight-suit-PC-sim-joystick-13157893931.jpg)

  ... well, if you're up to it.  =D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 08, 2015, 10:17:38 am
Me.

A helicopter.

Plus 3 seconds.......

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/screen_1425823846_zpsp1s050uu.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on March 08, 2015, 10:44:58 am
That last pic is definatly off topic as it doesn't qualify as an inspirational image  =D =D =D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on March 08, 2015, 11:57:59 am
Me.

A helicopter.

Plus 3 seconds.......

Oh my ...  =D

That last pic is definatly off topic as it doesn't qualify as an inspirational image  =D =D =D

  ... discouragement as hell ... well, they say books arent good with a good twist.  =D  =D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on March 10, 2015, 08:03:16 am
When I posted the two Dslyecxi videos the other day, I wanted to add a small one but couldn't find it :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0np7HOiSk

The entire mission is worth it if you have some time.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on March 10, 2015, 08:59:14 am
When I posted the two Dslyecxi videos the other day, I wanted to add a small one but couldn't find it :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0np7HOiSk

The entire mission is worth it if you have some time.

 ... crash-landing at a T-72s ass ... well, why not repair a helo right in the middle of the canonade ?  =D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on March 10, 2015, 09:56:03 am
Me.

A helicopter.

Plus 3 seconds.......



LOL!!!

(http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2010/240/a/a/laughing_dog_by_lufreesz-d2xhhuk.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on March 10, 2015, 01:24:15 pm
Yeah ... now when i see that picture again .... id say you try a too fast take-off. If ya can, try setting the joystick sensitivity to really low and get off the ground as slowly as it gets, trying to hower (or at least not to move in any direction too quickly).   


Back at topic ... as those textures were posted, that should make some visual projection of different minerals on mountains ... i just thought of some inspirations :

(http://static.bbc.co.uk/earthscience/images/ic/640x360/surface_and_interior/mountain_formation.jpg)

(http://www.markgibsonphoto.com/images/D11W01W.JPG)

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/mountain-formations-montserrat-21035619.jpg)

(http://aphs.worldnomads.com/laurfish/11274/oz_527.jpg)

(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/55587429.jpg)

(http://www.rockhounds.com/grand_hikes/images/formations/kaibab_formation1.jpg)

(https://www.colourbox.com/preview/2959346-strange-mountain-valley-tuff-stone-formations-in-cappadocia-turkey.jpg)

(http://c8.alamy.com/comp/C2CMX6/mountain-formations-around-sedona-arizona-C2CMX6.jpg)

It probably newer gets right for all the specially looking mountains, cause the way they were formed would have to be in procedural generation somehow, witch is probably almost impossible even of an one state area.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nK4cAy26_XM/Tbs4zTQrROI/AAAAAAAABIE/OkvQYM2Mkk8/s1600/mountain+formation+1874.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on March 19, 2015, 03:41:44 pm
It's got nothing to do with outerra but what the heck...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=857094234319538 (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=857094234319538)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 24, 2015, 09:05:28 am
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Wave_win.jpg)

(http://blogs.agu.org/geospace/files/2012/11/lenticular-cloud.jpg)

(http://www.mountain-wave-project.com/images/expeditions/tibet/original/Tibet_Yamdrok_Lake_Pano_web.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: TimXWB on March 27, 2015, 10:57:25 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD82QNVfi5Q

Now imagine this diveristy of objects, roads & stuff in outerra.. :-) Parts of the scenery are made with world2xplane i think.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 06, 2015, 03:54:50 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD82QNVfi5Q

Now imagine this diveristy of objects, roads & stuff in outerra.. :-) Parts of the scenery are made with world2xplane i think.

I think Outerra can approximate this, but it will almost certainly require some intensive effort and resources applied to the biomes.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 06, 2015, 03:55:19 pm
Something interesting:

https://youtu.be/sc4dsiq-I7g
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Jagerbomber on April 06, 2015, 04:01:45 pm
Outerra isn't using DirectX.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 06, 2015, 04:13:05 pm
Outerra isn't using DirectX.

Yup. We all know that. But its still interesting to watch the advancements being made, especially as we begin to see more examples of real performance advantages from the emerging next-gen API's.

Edit: Seems to me that all that "writing to the hardware" while offering some advantages, will also offer difficulties in making efficient use of multiple threads.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: DenisJ on April 08, 2015, 02:39:49 am
Wow. It's the first time I've ever seen no posts on the forum for straight one day. Come on guys, where are usual progress reports on aircraft aerodynamics, or maybe thoughts about next update, or just some lovely screenshots!
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 08, 2015, 02:41:51 am
Wow. It's the first time I've ever seen no posts on the forum for straight one day. Come on guys, where are usual progress reports on aircraft aerodynamics, or maybe thoughts about next update, or just some lovely screenshots!

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

People are trying to sleep!
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: DenisJ on April 08, 2015, 02:43:51 am
Oh, sorry for inconvenience  :-X
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on April 08, 2015, 02:59:43 am
(http://unrealitymag.bcmediagroup.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/once-upon-a-time-in-the-west.gif)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on April 08, 2015, 03:17:25 am
Sometimes, you just unfold your chair, put on a warm coat, take that shiny metal thing on ya and ...

(http://www.magicjewball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Depeche-Mode-Enjoy-The-Silence.jpg)


  ... we need a chair like that in OT and a sitting animation n coat mod for the mercenary.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on April 08, 2015, 04:24:21 am
Wow. It's the first time I've ever seen no posts on the forum for straight one day. Come on guys, where are usual progress reports on aircraft aerodynamics, or maybe thoughts about next update, or just some lovely screenshots!

It's quiet here? Movie time!

https://vimeo.com/42254051

Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on April 08, 2015, 07:11:18 am
OMG ... that eye-contact :D :D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 08, 2015, 07:47:14 am
OMG ... that eye-contact :D :D

Shows the amazing movies you can make with a budget of less than $50
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 17, 2015, 02:05:46 pm
Nothing we have in Outerra combines this planes raw combination of power and maneuverability, but I have hopes of one day having this sheer freedom in motion one day to spin across the Anteworld sky. Especially what happens at 3:15  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXh1ggW4AHo
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on April 17, 2015, 03:03:14 pm
Took me a while to figure out if it was real footage or a game. I really like the movement of the camera. Feels quite realistic.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 15, 2015, 06:26:37 pm
Anyone remember the demoscene? Heres a tightly coded goodie from back in the day, and the whole program is 4kb  :)

Procedural powah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWcbj7ksqwE
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on May 15, 2015, 07:43:59 pm
Have you played this?

http://digiex.net/downloads/download-center-2-0/games/4683-kkrieger-96kb-3d-shooter.html

I played many years ago, and could not believe this was 97 kb.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 16, 2015, 10:55:55 am
Have you played this?

http://digiex.net/downloads/download-center-2-0/games/4683-kkrieger-96kb-3d-shooter.html

I played many years ago, and could not believe this was 97 kb.

Pretty cool. There were a bunch of demos like this out there for a while, but now they are a lot less common.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 22, 2015, 07:41:06 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE94pc3gMA0
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 22, 2015, 07:51:53 pm
Eric Bruneton Is a name that should be known to anyone interested in modern procedural worldbuilding. His project: PROLAND was and is a spiritual ancestor of Outerra, but after the Proland project, I heard little of him until in the last few days he suddenly resurfaced with new videos to add to his scholarly papers. Fascinating stuff, as always.
 
I always loved his RAMA stuff, and as usual there are probably insights useful to many other types of project.
 
And of course, if you are inclined to play, Mr Bruneton provides a real-time demo where the user can navigate in Rama with a helicopter-like vehicle, and view each light path contribution separately or combined with others, for a single or six linear source(s), and with or without ground textures. The demo provides a precompiled binary for Windows, as well as the full source code and a simple Makefile.
 
http://ebruneton.free.fr/rama-physics/physics.html
http://ebruneton.free.fr/rama-lighting/lighting.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-A_3TxZDJ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur1zqJbd9Kg
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on May 23, 2015, 02:30:05 am
Is there some deeper reason why hes using inward oriented cylindrical environments ? (like some NASA vision for a far future space-station/craft ?) Or its just for simplifying math and result-examination ? ... its kinda interesting he projects environmental temperature trough irradiation, as a possible supplement for a star-light source: "the 6 linear light sources must provide a total power of 6.7MW.m−1 in order the get an illuminance of about 35.000lux at the ground level (on Earth, the illuminance when the Sun is at the zenith, with a clear sky, is about 100.000lux). This result is based on the hypothesis that the light sources emit only in the visible range, without producing any heat. The corresponding irradiance at the ground level is then 157W.m−2.
the flat linear light sources give an almost uniform temperature Ts=15°C at the ground level."

But cant imagine to have such sources all around a craft like that (it is like looking at the sun all the time) ...
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on May 23, 2015, 04:39:54 am
Is there some deeper reason why hes using inward oriented cylindrical environments ? (like some NASA vision for a far future space-station/craft ?)

This project is based on a Arthur C. Clarke novel :)

Btw, the most impressive video is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBIQCm54dfY

It's only a side project and he's still working on Proland (according to his personal website (http://www-evasion.imag.fr/people/Eric.Bruneton/)).
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 23, 2015, 02:32:19 pm
I haven't seen any new Proland information since around 2012, and don't see anything new mentioned at his various hangouts. I can only assume I'm cross eyed!  :facepalm:

Could you point it out to me?
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on May 25, 2015, 09:11:36 am
I haven't seen any new Proland information since around 2012, and don't see anything new mentioned at his various hangouts. I can only assume I'm cross eyed!  :facepalm:

Could you point it out to me?

No, in fact it seems like you were right, he's not listed anymore in the team he was working with (https://team.inria.fr/imagine/team/ (https://team.inria.fr/imagine/team/)). I've done a few searches and was not able to find more.

Edit: He's now working on open source business tools  :(: http://forge.ow2.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=2467 (http://forge.ow2.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=2467) (http://asm.ow2.org/ (http://asm.ow2.org/)).
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 25, 2015, 11:30:47 am
Bleah!!!!  =|
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 25, 2015, 02:05:11 pm
I don't really know about I-Novae studies. Their program, Infinity, has a history possibly longer than Outerra's, and progress has been equally slow. Outera has surged ahead in the depiction of the planet earth and in the flora of the planet, while I-Novae has moved outwards instead and concentrated on outer space.

Outerra has incorporated libraries that allow for aviation, watercraft, and land vehicle simulation, whereas I-novae has concentrated on spacecraft and orbital mechanics.

Outera has introduced clouds and limited lighting, where I-Novae seems far ahead in both lighting, smoke and particle effects.

Are they rivals? They are procedural programs that seem to be heading in opposite directions, though its interesting to watch the individual programs evolve. I wonder if there is some innate difficulty that makes procedural worlds much harder than regular worlds to create. Things to ponder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTdJni-DbFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSfpSAcV5XU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR9KpK1Ua-Q
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 25, 2015, 02:11:38 pm
Is there some deeper reason why hes using inward oriented cylindrical environments ? (like some NASA vision for a far future space-station/craft ?)

This project is based on a Arthur C. Clarke novel :)

Yup, this is the inside of RAMA, a VERY large alien (and at first, apparently frozen and dead) spacecraft found speeding through our solar system in the book, which is about the team of earth scientists and explorers sent to try and figure out what it is before it finishes racing through our neighborhood, forcing them to leave fairly quickly after a quick look around if they ever want to get home before the ship takes them too far away.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on May 25, 2015, 02:53:55 pm
Spoilers!!!

(http://barnesjewishhospital.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/man-with-fingers-in-ears.jpg)


He, he... I don't care... I have read the (first) book    ^-^
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 25, 2015, 06:30:49 pm
Just something I bumped into that was interesting. Imagine if it was this easy to place cities in your favorite sim. Well, you kind of can. There is already a flight mod for this game. :lol:

I want Outerra to make scenery creation this easy!!!

Acetone would probably sacrifice a goat to make that happen.  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJb7C2OE9xM
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on May 26, 2015, 01:00:57 am

Yup, this is the inside of RAMA, a VERY large alien (and at first, apparently frozen and dead) spacecraft found speeding through our solar system in the book, which is about the team of earth scientists and explorers sent to try and figure out what it is before it finishes racing through our neighborhood, forcing them to leave fairly quickly after a quick look around if they ever want to get home before the ship takes them too far away.

 ... sounds like fun.

Those rings on I-novae are incredible. like the smooth blending between the long distance ring texture and the voluminous dusts at approach  ... cant wait to see Jupiter in OT, when they're ready to do other solar systems planets. Doe, those ancient storms may be much more tricky, if we want to get to surface. (id like that)  ::)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on May 26, 2015, 03:51:21 am
Just something I bumped into that was interesting. Imagine if it was this easy to place cities in your favorite sim. Well, you kind of can. There is already a flight mod for this game. :lol:

I want Outerra to make scenery creation this easy!!!

Acetone would probably sacrifice a goat to make that happen.  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJb7C2OE9xM

If you exclude the possibility of making roads cross at different heights and the auto soft connections between these, there is nothing really different here :)
(and surface areas but we don't have these yet, so it's hard to compare).
However, skyline UI is interesting. When we will be able to use OSM and vectorial areas, it would be nice to have the possibility to read directly some OSM infos through an information box.
 I'm especially thinking of the area type and buildings informations stored in OSM. Having the possibility to use surface areas as a type and having it filled with a determined set of models could be interesting too, but it would require a lot of tweaking, correctly labeled buildings by type/size and will probably give strange results with OSM, in Skyline, these zones are really geometric and tied to a road, in OSM it's a lot more different (even when these are correctly made... ).

Also, let's not talk about sloped terrain, wick makes everything 10 times more difficult for these things :(
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 26, 2015, 04:13:35 am
Yet X-plane managed to take such things and tie it to OSM. I think this is done even better.

And yes, somebody recreated GTA5 and added a (bad) plane mod........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-4ozNZi6sc

Outerra could do this!!!!! (and notice the Game seems to handle uneven terrain fairly well)

EDIT: I was looking at a developer interview with No Mans Sky, which has a small team of about twelve people doing incredible work, and the lead developer was saying that when you hear of the 800 person teams, most of them are doing art assets. Looking at all the art that went into this, I can believe it. (though as mentioned, this is from a smallish team, too!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwb1SDSQHlE

More sloped terrain. I guess I like these sort of things because I see all the things Outerra could eventually be with enough resources applied. I guess its kind of my idea of a multisim utopia.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L6LqByrhT4
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 26, 2015, 10:02:05 am
Insanity. Sigh. If I had this in Outerra I would go absolutely out of my mind building stuff. Acetone would have to move over and make room!  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzVhrFoOA1w
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 27, 2015, 02:39:09 pm
Not so much inspirational as just something funny to share and pass the time.  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fej9EWWLSsw
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on May 27, 2015, 03:11:02 pm
 :D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on May 27, 2015, 10:11:08 pm
Really fun! Some day in OT!!
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on May 29, 2015, 02:19:13 pm
Ok, I admit it. I'm smitten. I'm infatuated. I'm in love. I want something this seamless and polished in Outerra. I would build and build and build, just like this guy. Simmers, racers, train guys and anybody with a creative itch all over the world would be glued to their screens making stuff. This must happen!!!  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DzxJ_JekYw
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 05, 2015, 05:35:05 pm
A sim. By one guy.  Kind of shows what people can do when they believe in themselves, and have true passion for what they are doing. =D

https://youtu.be/HMkaTtrQlHM
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 11, 2015, 08:35:05 pm
Tweet tweet?  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLHIusLWOc
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on June 12, 2015, 02:45:40 am
interesting ... the only thing that would be needed to be simulated for such an experience are Gs ... but dont think there are ways to simulate internal organs being thrown around by theyr own kinetic energy ...
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 12, 2015, 12:50:57 pm
interesting ... the only thing that would be needed to be simulated for such an experience are Gs ... but dont think there are ways to simulate internal organs being thrown around by theyr own kinetic energy ...

I would love to try this.  :))
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on June 12, 2015, 05:27:51 pm
interesting ... the only thing that would be needed to be simulated for such an experience are Gs ... but dont think there are ways to simulate internal organs being thrown around by theyr own kinetic energy ...

I would love to try this.  :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuqf_6oplMc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuqf_6oplMc)

 ... also, does US/Western pilots have G-suits just on theyr lower body ? ... thought they have a similar suit like russians strapping up arms too :

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUwMFgxMDA0/z/C6AAAOSwZd1VWdoj/$_57.JPG)

(http://www.luke.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/2012/12/121207-F-LK000-001.jpg)

Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 12, 2015, 05:51:50 pm
Too much straining.... wonder how many people have...... accidents.  =D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 19, 2015, 12:33:08 pm
Found this out on the web. Interesting that Outerra is listed as an inspiration. http://www.oovee.co.uk/forum/topic/11329-tatra-813-trucktrial-by-patholog-and-zidon/

https://youtu.be/6FbscUHPcic
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 21, 2015, 10:43:09 pm
Procedural world, Speedtree growth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcpqVG9MVzU
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 25, 2015, 10:14:24 pm
Cool weather effects. There are so many ways to approach this. I wonder what Outerra weather will look like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWo6Mv6LjrA
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on June 25, 2015, 11:24:22 pm
How about some crash animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47pIYy3TLbU
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on June 26, 2015, 01:11:26 am
Cristal airplane! Looks nice, but not much realistic...

Check this physic (4:00 and on)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bKphYfUk-M

Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on June 26, 2015, 02:01:13 am
Cristal airplane! Looks nice, but not much realistic...

Check this physic (4:00 and on)

Like both the anmations and materials  ... now how to apply this to an airplane from thin metal skin to seat leather ?  =D .... its nice to have that material prop. on objects, but idlike to see something like that on vehicles. Than realistic crashes and explosions would be interesting. (GoR isnt bad, but it cant tear meshes into pieces, they just deform and fly off).
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 29, 2015, 03:26:04 pm
How about some crash animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47pIYy3TLbU

Thats way to horrific for your average Flight simmer to stomach. In other words, somebody would complain.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on June 29, 2015, 04:18:38 pm
Thats way to horrific for your average Flight simmer to stomach. In other words, somebody would complain.

It would sell like cup cakes though =D

BeamNG got it done nicely for a game engine. With more dust/smoke particle and fireball, it would be almost perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VJn7T6vVj0
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 29, 2015, 05:23:27 pm
In slow motion it can look a little "rubbery"
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on June 29, 2015, 08:48:27 pm
I would like to see this kind of physics in planes ( 1:01 and on).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tugbGpRqiFY
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on July 18, 2015, 05:38:17 am
Always interesting to see how other people approach things. He's apparently been working on this alone for about 8 years!

Thats dedication. He's made it opensource, and there are a lot of things here I hope to see in Outerra, eventually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tp0HZKt_eA

https://youtu.be/sLSbmHTfvv4
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on July 18, 2015, 03:36:31 pm
Those car-hit-boxes were interesting.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on July 18, 2015, 04:39:54 pm
Always interesting to see how other people approach things. He's apparently been working on this alone for about 8 years!

Hey, he's in Czech republic, he could be an interesting addition to the Outerra tea...
 
Quote
Senior Programmer
Bohemia Interactive Simulations
Oh.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on July 18, 2015, 05:37:33 pm
Always interesting to see how other people approach things. He's apparently been working on this alone for about 8 years!

Hey, he's in Czech republic, he could be an interesting addition to the Outerra tea...
 
Quote
Senior Programmer
Bohemia Interactive Simulations
Oh.

Interesting. Still, this seems to be his own project, and its open source..... Wonder if he's working on something similar for them?
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on July 19, 2015, 02:34:20 pm
Those car-hit-boxes were interesting.

It suddenly occurred to me this morning, might those multiple spherical hit-boxes also work as crumple zones for impact damage?
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: pico on July 23, 2015, 09:23:26 am
I made a little Google Earth Video. The Landscape is fantastic. The
grafik engine is not as stable as Outerra but interesting to explore the Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rXRQEzTAJI
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on July 23, 2015, 10:10:26 am
... isnt that the drone-capture stuff ?
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on July 23, 2015, 02:34:17 pm
I just updated to the latest version and actually looks like that. Of course the shadows are from the original photography. If you change the day time, those shadows + render low quality shadows wont look that nice.

However, the displacement detail is pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on July 23, 2015, 07:51:24 pm
Really look amazing. It's too bad that the shadows have to be 'baked' into the texture. Like Python mentionned, this area have to be photograph by drones, the texture on the vertical rocks look perfect, not stretch. It could not have been captured by satellites, is it?

I guess in area where they can use drones to photograph under cloud cover to get ambient lighting, it will make the most realistic landscape texture ever in a 3d world.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on July 23, 2015, 07:55:33 pm
The problems inherent in any current photoscenery technology...... (besides the enormous storage space requirements)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on July 24, 2015, 12:27:36 am
Well, till they get powerfull tools to "clear" those shadowy parts, they will have massive problems with this - specially when trying to blend two areas photographed at different times. I assume, there would be possible to make an automatic digital processing way, doe, they need to photograph for it in a much greater resolution, to capture the needed detail in the shadowy regions for it to work with comparable enough visual detail effect. So id say they have a few years to master that out.

What intrigues me is that "Google Earth flight simulator"  announcment.     I cant imagine it working on that "engine" theyre using for visualizing the Earth. Will be quite some pain and probably even performance issues trying to embed it into it in a much more complex way beyond this little thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXD2x9bRWN8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXD2x9bRWN8)

 There are also some pop-ups (0:34-0:36) - i think it didnt really muster to change the detail level ewerywhere (or at least it looks for me as the one rock in the center popped out, but all the left side plato, didnt change the detail at all - i ihink its that basic GoogleEarth "feature" of being focused only on small tiles right at the center of the view).
Also, the photo-look is amazing, yet i cant shake the feeling it couldnt handle somehow any nearer approach to the surface. As if theyre showing the approx. min height in the vid to look great, but actually landing, or near-passes or flights on helis  - i think the IR-Photo way of capturing stuff may lead to weird stuff as vegetation cant be anything else than bulky things all around, especially in cityes. (and somehow, the FOV seems off for nearer approach).

... dont take me wrong, its a half century from anything the last MFS was, but ill still hold my money back for OT.  ::)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Revolver on July 24, 2015, 02:48:36 am
I made a little Google Earth Video. The Landscape is fantastic. The
grafik engine is not as stable as Outerra but interesting to explore the Earth.

wOw!realy nice... :o
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on July 28, 2015, 06:34:17 pm
Very interesting. Its amazing how many tiny one (or just a few) man teams are out there playing with procedural worlds. It seems to be a trend. http://www.novavoyager.com/

https://youtu.be/0hbmgb00QdA
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on July 29, 2015, 03:53:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/IA3PVYn.jpg)

One day...
(It's a real Cassini picture of Saturn)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on August 08, 2015, 03:25:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf9MlYtkJM0

https://www.shadertoy.com/view/MdBGzG
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/4sjXzG    ( https://twitter.com/iquilezles)

https://youtu.be/QmWmXaBkaIk


Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on August 09, 2015, 04:43:35 pm
outerra except nobody before had come so close.
(I think someone at the time already had added,, but worth it to see him again)
https://youtu.be/JC2w3H1NpX0
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: M7 on August 11, 2015, 08:39:18 am
I find that shadertoy site quite interesting and those canyons looks pretty convincing for procedural. It looks like voxels up close.

And one of the best water rendering i've seen (looks computationally expansive though)
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/Ms2SD1 (https://www.shadertoy.com/view/Ms2SD1)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Revolver on August 12, 2015, 06:32:54 am
https://youtu.be/JC2w3H1NpX0

Meditamos en la gloria del Creador;
Quién ha creado el Universo;
Quién es digno de adoración;
Quién es la encarnación del Conocimiento y de la Luz;
Quién es el quita del pecado y la ignorancia; 
Él abre nuestros corazones e ilumina nuestro Intelecto.

or,

Oṃ bhūr bhuvaḥ svaḥ
tát savitúr váreṇ(i)yaṃ
bhárgo devásya dhīmahi
dhíyo yó naḥ pracodáyāt

oder,

Om, wir meditieren über den Glanz des verehrungswürdigen Göttlichen,
den Urgrund der drei Welten, Erde, Luftraum und himmlische Regionen.
Möge das Höchste Göttliche uns erleuchten, auf dass wir die höchste Wahrheit erkennen

NAMASTE.   ;)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on August 12, 2015, 01:24:25 pm
(https://www.imageshost.eu/images/2015/08/12/Schleife.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on August 21, 2015, 09:05:09 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAn4J_0zRfI
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on August 22, 2015, 02:42:36 pm
all this information from the videos I've erased by being broken, a facebook page to which I still did not seem right,, link entire page.
seguiendo PitonPago commentary, add the link and there are all the videos, and if you like it any,, watch it.
Thank you. and excuse.

https://www.facebook.com/Geografismos
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on August 23, 2015, 04:16:59 am
aWac9, are those facebook embeded vids ? ... they wint pen properly if ya post links of them, whyle you are logged in to facebook. (like youtube videos too).
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: OttoPus on August 26, 2015, 08:46:00 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezKR3VuqD9k
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 26, 2015, 12:17:28 pm
Yeah, I saw that.  Those are some pretty damn good clouds...
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on September 18, 2015, 01:35:41 pm
Game of Thrones (HBO) - Hardhome (VFX Breakdown)
https://vimeo.com/132571771
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on September 18, 2015, 02:06:56 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK-cO4ocm5I
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on September 30, 2015, 07:40:56 am
Was doing a thread somewhere else and was thinking of this. All done by one guy, think of this as the Outerra of the last generation.
 
http://www.hangsim.com/vsf/
https://youtu.be/G3PY8N-9RUE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfMtFdaX5_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs6rb0FtW48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypVuXdOa36g

Vehicle Simulator is a unique simulator, combining land, underwater, sea surface, air and low orbit environments into one, the program makes it possible to drive, fly, sail, dive, and go into space in one convincing simulation environment. The program excels especially as a flight simulator and as a naval simulator combining the powers of two previous simulators Micro Flight and Virtual Sailor into one, however the game engine was completely re written and has far greater capability and capacity than any of the previous ones it was made of.


The program uses fully documented file formats, and invites a hands on experiences, noting is locked away from the user, allowing third party add-ons to be easily made.

Vehicle Simulator was created by Ilan Papini first version released in March 2009. Vehicle Simulator is based upon Micro Flight and Virtual Sailor, and combines them into one powerful program containing :


Vehicle Simulator includes a built in scenery and vehicle design, making it much simpler for users to create and share content than ever before.

The simple yet powerful vehicle design makes Vehicle Simulator an excellent learning tool and also a powerful preliminary design tool.

Vehicle Simulator was designed to run on the average gaming machine specs available for 2008, however it can be adjusted to run on machines with less performance. Vehicle Simulator is built to use DirectX9 with vertex and pixel shaders 2.0 and volumetric textures. It is essential that your computer has a video card which is compatible with DirectX9.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Mossie on September 30, 2015, 09:35:16 am
I've worked with the developer on this sim, and he has quite a few of my models in game. For me they are mid range in detail. So some will be coming to Outerra, but only after have a poly boost.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on September 30, 2015, 02:51:03 pm
I've worked with the developer on this sim, and he has quite a few of my models in game. For me they are mid range in detail. So some will be coming to Outerra, but only after have a poly boost.

That should be very interesting!
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on October 05, 2015, 06:25:17 pm
I like the Avatar  :)

https://youtu.be/O8WBLBleUr0
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on October 06, 2015, 04:26:42 am
I like the Avatar  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=621&v=O8WBLBleUr0

12 fps with that config? 

Quote
Intel I7 3960k (overclocked to 4.8ghz)
2xGTX 980
2x Samsung 840 SSD's running in raid
16 gb of 2000 mhz corsair dominator gt DDR3
Asus Rampage 4 extreme

Ouch...
:o
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on October 06, 2015, 07:51:56 am
I like the Avatar  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=621&v=O8WBLBleUr0

12 fps with that config? 

Quote

Intel I7 3960k (overclocked to 4.8ghz)
2xGTX 980
2x Samsung 840 SSD's running in raid
16 gb of 2000 mhz corsair dominator gt DDR3
Asus Rampage 4 extreme

Ouch...
:o

Well its a PMDG plane he's flying, and those things suck FSX dry. These frame rates go a long way in explaining why flight sim fans are so hungry for an alternative.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Revolver on October 06, 2015, 11:15:52 am
... why flight sim fans are so hungry for an alternative.

Well, I do not think so, because otherwise the OT-forum was full of Flysim-Funs ... but is not the case.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: bomber on October 06, 2015, 05:58:49 pm
To understand the flight sim community you have to consider that they want something better than what they've got now, right out the box, no bugs, low cost...

Fortunately we don't meet the requirements....  Phew.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on December 12, 2015, 11:24:27 am
Mostly I think its that the flightsim community has become ultra conservative, and tied so tightly to the FSX ecosystem that its hard for anything else to catch serious attention unless it offers such an obvious advantage that its a no brainer. Outerra is not quite there yet, but once cities and airports arrive, I don't see any way it can be ignored. It will be the modders that lead the way.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: ddenn on December 14, 2015, 03:26:59 am
... why flight sim fans are so hungry for an alternative.

Well, I do not think so, because otherwise the OT-forum was full of Flysim-Funs ... but is not the case.

It was flooded with fans five years ago after Himalayan video (http://outerra.blogspot.ru/2010/08/himalayas-trip.html), and every flight community site had topic or even forum section dedicated to Outerra. But since then there wasn't much progress of OT in flightsim direction, so they all returned to their fsx, x-plane etc. And I think it will take en effort now to get them back.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on December 14, 2015, 07:55:42 am
I think most of the flight community is starting to understand that a all-in-the-box full simulation is not going to happen anymore, and as a result are expecting less from new sims.
The big turning point for many users seems to be roads and buildings, they often ask on Avsim what is the sate of the OSM integration. A pristine world is not enough to be convincing for them, but many seems to be interested to follow Outerra as soon as it will have the capability to be a nice looking VFR simulator :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on December 19, 2015, 11:56:01 pm
Imagine this. To bad the company went out of business years ago (too expensive) and the software is only available as a demo now. Reminds me very much of Cities Skylines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrqm9qK_Mlo
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on December 29, 2015, 01:26:34 pm
Hot off the presses from Unigine, a look at their own round earth procedural tech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nasYOEFICk
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: ddenn on December 29, 2015, 01:43:19 pm
There's a better video of Unigine, without planet scale though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7E5D7kHBLU
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on December 30, 2015, 04:35:30 am
There's a better video of Unigine, without planet scale though

I tried that tech demo and went away with very mixed feelings. Granted it looks great, but I found it to be extremely hardware intensive and framey. Turning the settings low enough to get good frames resulted in visuals not much better than you could get with a nice Orbx scenery for FSX, and just that tiny demo area topped out at a whopping 5gigs.

That being said, I'm still interested to see what can eventually be done with it.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: ddenn on December 30, 2015, 04:58:46 am
I didn't even know they have started making "Next Gen Flightsim" (http://nexgenflightsim.com/), sounds very interesting. Will be following this project.

Where did you get the demo? Or was it old Valley Unigine 1.0 benchmark?

Found the demo, though they claim it has nothing to do with NGFS


P.s. Tried the demo. It runs very well on my system (60fps), apart from seldom stutters when moving camera fast. Looks very impressive to me.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: ddenn on December 30, 2015, 07:05:16 am
Found this on their forum (http://nexgenflightsim.com/discussions/#/discussion/115/outerra):

Quote
There's been a lot of discussions regarding Outerra in this forum along with the reasoning behind not choosing Outerra as the 3D engine of choice. As DanAir said... it's a complicated situation with the Outerra team in gaining access to a Outerra SDK for evaluation purposes... whereas UNIGNIE Sim (and all the other 3D engines) gaining access was easy.

Also... having had a good look at Outerra Anteworld... Outerra is not quite ready for prime time and there would be a tremendous amount of in house development necessary in order to be able to have the features that we're all wanting to see in a next generation flight simulator. Many of these features are already a part of UNIGINE Sim. Plus Unigine Sim is dedicated to creating a platform for the development of simulations...which fits perfectly with the direction we're heading towards here on the SIM-Posium.

Hope that helps,

Stephen B.

NGiS team now working on Corsica tech demo, with all the airports/details etc. 2016 promises be very interesting year for simmers (that is, if WW3 won't destroy us all).

Stephen's enthusiasm actually reminds me of David Lagettie, CEO of TitanIM. I wish them both best of luck :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: bomber on December 30, 2015, 07:39:10 am
I don't believe the symposium did anywhere near a good enough review of the user requirements or the capabilities and possibilities of 3d engines available.

You don't create a symposium to last 300 days or so and then half way through it say that's finished we're moving onto the next stage.

Having been contacted to join the team I had a hard look at all that was being offered.... 4 years of expected development, my hobby turned into sudo employment.... not part ownership of the product as that remains solely in stephan hands....

The talk of Zuckerberg or Jobs isn't for us but for Stephan.... as the volunteers are just possibly employees of stephans company.

I hope it succeeds, but not at the cost of my hobby or desire.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: ddenn on December 30, 2015, 07:52:00 am
That's always the issue when working in big team, that's why I prefer work myself as one-man addon maker. Had same problem working 2 years for TitanIM - interesting hobby became a dull boring job quite fast when you are just an employee.

I hope that NGiS sim will be opened for addon makers as MSFS and X-plane.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: bomber on December 30, 2015, 09:41:21 am
Maybe then the trick would be to retain our hobby yet also accept some level of focus, such that we're all going in roughly the same direction.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: 2eyed on December 30, 2015, 03:23:32 pm
Tried the Port Angeles demo too, and I think it's worth keeping an eye on it.
I like the color richness compared to OT. Tree rendering is quite good aswell (with a few techniques we know from OT).
Got some heavy stuttering (probably loading issues) but not really bad framerates. 3DVision works (not with clouds on).
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on December 30, 2015, 05:03:13 pm
Tried the Port Angeles demo too, and I think it's worth keeping an eye on it.
I like the color richness compared to OT. Tree rendering is quite good aswell (with a few techniques we know from OT).
Got some heavy stuttering (probably loading issues) but not really bad framerates. 3DVision works (not with clouds on).

The stuttering is from some very heavy just-in-time loading (I believe) and was very distracting to me. I hope they can work around it.

Also they need some real clouds. If you try to reach them in the demo, you will find that you can't.

I liked the color richness very much as well, but at the time I was looking at it, NGIS said it wanted us to "evaluate" the demo; which to me, meant looking for possible flaws as well as going "Wow!"

I pretty much felt like Bomber about that evaluation process, in the end.

Nonetheless, I wish them well.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on December 31, 2015, 10:32:36 am
Star Citizen showing some of their procedural tech. Makes me wonder how Outerras Moon will eventually look, up close. And don't forget Mars..... (Will mars have its moons, in Outerra?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yLTm8DZ8s4

Planetary landing. I think Infinity Battlescape got their signature tech out the door into Kickstarter-land just in time before it was eclipsed into irrelevance. (Close call!!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XSiww9ZO4
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on January 01, 2016, 01:50:02 am
It looks really nice
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 03, 2016, 09:03:22 am
Outerra and this should mate and have a child!  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovfhv_9-KIg
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 03, 2016, 07:58:58 pm
Water!! I was thinking about roterwash effects for the Ah-64 and remembered this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeZkd7d5-3g
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on January 04, 2016, 06:03:26 am
https://vimeo.com/18842873

Fractals are cool

Water!! I was thinking about roterwash effects for the Ah-64 and remembered this.

Nice water effects but they have the same problem I noticed with Ubisoft's water system (as seen in AC: Black Flag and Watch Dogs). The waves close to the camera are really nice but the ocean is completely flat 100m away
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 04, 2016, 09:53:13 am
https://vimeo.com/18842873

Fractals are cool

Water!! I was thinking about roterwash effects for the Ah-64 and remembered this.

Nice water effects but they have the same problem I noticed with Ubisoft's water system (as seen in AC: Black Flag and Watch Dogs). The waves close to the camera are really nice but the ocean is completely flat 100m away

Don't know.... that video gives me an itchy feeling........... Viruses, fungi, growing mold.......

As for the water, is it a problem.... or an optimization?
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 13, 2016, 01:48:26 pm
Tonywob: Moderator of the Avsim Outerra forum, creator of world2Xplane, and a member here (who graciously donated hundreds of world2xplane buildings which have been used in many Outerra scenery projects) is also one of X-planes foremost OSM experts and has expressed the desire to work on Outerra.

Here, he is showing his latest project for X-plane: Norway Pro, an Osm project that doesn't require photoscenery, and it looks great! I'm really hoping he gets a crack at Outerra OSM one day!

http://world2xplane.com/

http://www.avsim.com/topic/476726-norway-pro-work-in-progress/

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/Alabeo_R66_5_zps6rlvkgie.jpg)

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/Alabeo_R66_6_zpsoygjnjye.jpg)

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/Alabeo_R66_3_zps1il3rk4f.jpg)

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/Alabeo_R66_1_zpsxheq9s69.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on January 13, 2016, 02:51:46 pm
interesting work
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 19, 2016, 11:13:39 pm
Gamers are out there, and they are dreaming of Outerra. https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/41csp3/will_you_be_my_wingman/

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/9sBHz4A_zpsrdq4cunh.png)

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/sLafqFE_zpshfars1sw.png)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on January 20, 2016, 09:20:33 am
3D Earth wind flow, animated.

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-306.55,-5.65,671/loc=-100.300,17.885
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 20, 2016, 12:44:58 pm
3D Earth wind flow, animated.

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-306.55,-5.65,671/loc=-100.300,17.885

I've been using this one: https://www.windyty.com/

Its listed as a Wind map and weather forecast for kiters, surfers, pilots, sailors and anyone else, and it has a lot of detailed features.

Lower right hand corner is a dropdown for various altitudes. Clicking on the various selections above that gives you different views, like pressure, clouds, snow..... etc.  if you click on a particular location.... like a storm, for instance, you will get a pop up offering you detailed information for that location.
 
Drilling down even further (scroll with mouse and mouse wheel) you will see individual airports and can get even more information.
 
(Or even easier, just type an airport ICAO or name of a location under search)
 
Have fun!
 

Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on January 20, 2016, 07:58:59 pm
Oh, interesting!!! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 22, 2016, 02:03:56 pm
What got me about this was how very plain the procedural "city" was in the daylight.... and how pretty the lights were at night. I sometimes feel like that about X-plane, which is why I often fly it at night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQLa8YGWNwg
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: ddenn on January 27, 2016, 01:57:43 am
I didn't even know they have started making "Next Gen Flightsim" (http://nexgenflightsim.com/), sounds very interesting. Will be following this project.

It tuns out NGIS lost access (http://nexgenflightsim.com/discussions/#/discussion/319/update-1-24-2016) to Unigine engine, so there's nothing to follow anymore really.

And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.
                                         William Shakespeare
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 28, 2016, 03:41:51 pm
Pretty.  :)

http://www.blendswap.com/blends/view/78378

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qvMEHK2BoY

Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 03, 2016, 09:38:20 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyZ2qSlsfu4
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: josem75 on February 04, 2016, 06:09:39 pm
Damm.. We need that smoke in Outerra
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 05, 2016, 11:19:48 am
Damm.. We need that smoke in Outerra

Catches the eye, doesn't it?   =D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: bomber on February 05, 2016, 12:46:36 pm
these guys using a LAN ?
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 05, 2016, 01:26:15 pm
these guys using a LAN ?

This is all I found:

Quote
Here's a brief description of the process:

Participating teams hosts a game server
Pilot joins the server
Camera man joins the server
The camera man positions his camera on the airfield and connects to the streaming software.
The pilot flies his show as the camera watches, filming the show as if he was filming a real display.
Whatever is on the cameraman's screen is uploaded through the streaming software and broadcast onto the selected channel.
The audience watch the show on a website (For vfat, the website will be http://www.livestream.com/virtualairshows (http://www.livestream.com/virtualairshows))
Once the pilot has finished the show, the camera man stops broadcasting.

The next team will repeat this process, broadcasting to the same channel.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 06, 2016, 06:18:31 pm
Someday.............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOLhnwllpgs
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 19, 2016, 03:20:33 am
Interesting....... 

Dovetail Games Flight School (DFS)
(http://i.imgur.com/DiMCkNZ.jpg)
 
Lockheed Martin Prepar3D v3 (P3Dv3)
(http://i.imgur.com/6unF1Zp.jpg)
 
Microsoft Flight (Flight)
(http://i.imgur.com/2kesOzv.jpg)
 
Microsoft Flight Simulator X: Steam Edition (FSX: SE)
(http://i.imgur.com/TJuFTef.jpg)

Outerra
(http://i.imgur.com/RcGQnLa.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: cameni on February 19, 2016, 03:33:48 am
Interesting, though OT has clearly wrong FOV and position. Is it possible to get precise coordinates from FSX?
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 19, 2016, 03:51:28 am
Interesting, though OT has clearly wrong FOV and position. Is it possible to get precise coordinates from FSX?

The airport is Innsbruck (LOWI).

(http://i.imgur.com/lSwS345.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Celis on February 19, 2016, 10:23:56 am
Interesting, though OT has clearly wrong FOV and position. Is it possible to get precise coordinates from FSX?

I tried to use the Google earth coordinates for that screenshot, but wasn't quite near (maybe I missed a number), so I use the Map feature (outerra) and add the runway with Map (satellite view), of course didnt pay much attention to other details.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: bomber on February 19, 2016, 12:28:12 pm
Dovetail got sun glare right.... that's what I'd like to see
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: zombie00 on February 20, 2016, 09:38:32 am
Dovetail got sun glare right.... that's what I'd like to see

I don't know, it looks too sharp, like a camera effect rather than something you would see with your own eyes. I REALLY don't like camera effects on my games.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: bomber on February 20, 2016, 10:41:27 am
Hi zombie, let me see if I can explain why I said what I did and why I think it's not a static effect .

First question, have you ever actually looked at the sun ? Like on a cloudless day, the sort of action your doctor will tell you would blind you ?

Well it does actually look more like the first image than any of the others and thats what I'm talking about...

The problem is you can look at the plane the scenery and the sun is wrong because of that glare.... and here I agree with you.

If I was to write a specification for the sun as wanted by a user it'd be something like..

The sun's glare flare intensity to be variable depending upon the sun's position relative to the screens centre and the length of time..

Such that a glance of the sun past the screens centre produces a short intensity flare which returns to nothing quickly..

A long lingering look with the sun 10 degress to the side of the screens centre results in the flare expanding and a residual after glow remaining when looking elsewhere which disminished inversely proportional to the flare intensity..

The aim here is to be able to hide behind the sun as a fighter pilot.... and you could only do that with the first image....

Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: cameni on February 20, 2016, 12:57:47 pm
30m dataset

(http://i.imgur.com/E7zRN2R.jpg)

Not the best angle because of low sun and resulting high haze (and people used to fake haze-less renderings), so here are some more:

(http://i.imgur.com/jiyabkC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WA0yZV9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2vN9thy.jpg)

For comparison, current 90m dataset

(http://i.imgur.com/mRznPrc.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Jagerbomber on February 20, 2016, 01:02:45 pm
The river's not related though, I assume.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: zombie00 on February 20, 2016, 01:22:26 pm
Hi zombie, let me see if I can explain why I said what I did and why I think it's not a static effect .

First question, have you ever actually looked at the sun ? Like on a cloudless day, the sort of action your doctor will tell you would blind you ?

Well it does actually look more like the first image than any of the others and thats what I'm talking about...

The problem is you can look at the plane the scenery and the sun is wrong because of that glare.... and here I agree with you.

If I was to write a specification for the sun as wanted by a user it'd be something like..

The sun's glare flare intensity to be variable depending upon the sun's position relative to the screens centre and the length of time..

Such that a glance of the sun past the screens centre produces a short intensity flare which returns to nothing quickly..

A long lingering look with the sun 10 degress to the side of the screens centre results in the flare expanding and a residual after glow remaining when looking elsewhere which disminished inversely proportional to the flare intensity..

The aim here is to be able to hide behind the sun as a fighter pilot.... and you could only do that with the first image....

I can completely agree with that approach. It would even make the sun glare more interesting to see, having it on 24/7 regardless of the angle is the equivalent of living on rainbowland where there are rainbows everywhere, a really lame idea. I still believe they need to tone down the sharpness of it, mainly the hexagon, that's a camera effect caused by the shape of the aperture on a lens, on the human eye (at least mine, just went outside to check, 3PM on a summer sunny day proved to be the perfect time for this test) the shape of glare is more or less circular.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: 2eyed on February 20, 2016, 02:18:11 pm
... and the best looking is ... : Outerra(30m) !!
When will we get our hands on it? Educated guess please.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HughesMDflyer4 on February 20, 2016, 02:34:26 pm
Would have been nice to at least be given credit for the original comparisons. The Outerra shot in the first post is not mine, by the way. That one appears to be courtesy of Celis (http://www.avsim.com/topic/483730-dfsp3dflightfsx-comparison-screenshots/page-2#entry3375224).

http://www.avsim.com/topic/483730-dfsp3dflightfsx-comparison-screenshots/

@cameni: Great to see an Outerra developer chiming in with an accurate comparison! In case you're interested, here's the exact latitude/longitude/altitude/pitch/bank/heading that I used:

Latitude: N47° 15' 27.39"
Longitude: E11° 17' 19.48"
Altitude: 3679.48 feet
Pitch: -12.660052739847529
Bank: 11.21676821280645
Heading: 96.820694389293521

I'm not sure if it's of any use, but the visibility was set to 20SM (statute miles) in my shots (and appears to be same in the DFS one). Also, the date/time was: May 5, 2016 @ 07:08:29 local time.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 20, 2016, 02:49:24 pm
Would have been nice to at least be given credit for the original comparisons. The Outerra shot in the first post is not mine, by the way. That one appears to be courtesy of Celis (http://www.avsim.com/topic/483730-dfsp3dflightfsx-comparison-screenshots/page-2#entry3375224)

http://www.avsim.com/topic/483730-dfsp3dflightfsx-comparison-screenshots/

@cameni: Great to see an Outerra developer chiming in with an accurate comparison!

90% of the time I do post links, but I swear most people here never go to Avsim. When they started locking people out unless they signed in (to cut down on bandwidth I believe) some people said they could'nt see my links to Avsim and weren't willing to create accounts.  =| http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3029.0

Sorry about that, I will start linking more frequently again, and see if there is a better response.

Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HughesMDflyer4 on February 20, 2016, 02:59:57 pm
90% of the time I do post links, but I swear most people here never go to Avsim. When they started locking people out unless they signed in (to cut down on bandwidth I believe) some people said they could'nt see my links to Avsim and weren't willing to create accounts.  =| http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3029.0

Sorry about that, I will start linking more frequently again, and see if there is a better response.

No worries! As a developer, I've gotten in the habit over the years of making sure anyone I work with or who's work I use is given proper credit no matter what. I just naturally find that kind of stuff now and point it out, at least. It's nothing personal.  :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: bomber on February 20, 2016, 03:51:01 pm
Wow......

19 years old... member since 2011.... 3 posts...

Nothing personal....
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: cameni on February 20, 2016, 04:05:01 pm
@cameni: Great to see an Outerra developer chiming in with an accurate comparison! In case you're interested, here's the exact latitude/longitude/altitude/pitch/bank/heading that I used:

Latitude: N47° 15' 27.39"
Longitude: E11° 17' 19.48"
Altitude: 3679.48 feet
Pitch: -12.660052739847529
Bank: 11.21676821280645
Heading: 96.820694389293521

I'm not sure if it's of any use, but the visibility was set to 20SM (statute miles) in my shots (and appears to be same in the DFS one). Also, the date/time was: May 5, 2016 @ 07:08:29 local time.

Ah, that would have helped. Except for visibility, there's no artificial visibility limiter in OT.
I only roughly estimated the date by the position of the sun.

But I'm also guilty of not crediting properly: the camera position and fov settings were kindly provided by KW71 who nudged me that I should post some comparisons with the new dataset.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: cameni on February 20, 2016, 04:24:24 pm
... and the best looking is ... : Outerra(30m) !!
When will we get our hands on it? Educated guess please.

We are doing final testing and fixing stuff now for the release of it (among with other stuff). Week(s).
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: josem75 on February 20, 2016, 05:14:17 pm
30m dataset


For me the best image for the matter of this comparisson is the first one. And if you can do the trick for be in a point where the trees shadows are full, then even better.
The 30m dataset result is PURE LOVE!! Mountains profile are radically improved (i was surprised about how much they are, in this image can see very clear).

For my opinion, your picture is the total winner compared with all the others engines. Its almost REAL. And this, taking in account Outerra engine strong point, where no other global engine can compete, is when you go down to the floor..

What i just miss is a bit more color (saturation), and a little bit more blue.  Adding it in photoshop end up in a literally real picture.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 20, 2016, 07:09:37 pm
... and the best looking is ... : Outerra(30m) !!
When will we get our hands on it? Educated guess please.

We are doing final testing and fixing stuff now for the release of it (among with other stuff). Week(s).

I thought you were going to say SoonTm  =D
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HughesMDflyer4 on February 20, 2016, 07:12:55 pm
We are doing final testing and fixing stuff now for the release of it (among with other stuff). Week(s).

That's great news. I've not kept up with Outerra recently, but it's always exciting looking at the changes being made. While I'm not a programmer, what goes into a graphics engine really intrigues me.


Wow......

19 years old... member since 2011.... 3 posts...

Nothing personal....

Yeah, I've also been a member of AVSIM since 2010 and have over 1,400 posts there. I just don't come here much as most of my forum browsing is flight sim-related because of my development work.

I only requested credit. That's all. I know Devon (HiFlyer) from his posts on AVSIM over the years and I'm aware he meant no harm - he's a nice guy. Let's move on, shall we?
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 23, 2016, 09:52:36 am
https://www.tinman3d.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72qkQdhPmPQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyzOHB0nGSM
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 05, 2016, 05:18:56 pm
This place looks kind of familiar (for old Outerra hands)  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRohm8gAqEQ
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 07, 2016, 07:59:04 am
Found on the web:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq5YhnqxCQo
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 19, 2016, 11:14:33 am
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/fAwv6sX_zpsel64qtem.png)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on March 19, 2016, 02:03:28 pm

What's the location? :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 19, 2016, 02:15:58 pm

What's the location? :)

Unknown location using FSX and Tileproxy. I bumped into the picture on Imgur, but now I've tracked it further and asked the poster for more definite info.  https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/4ax141/birdseye_view/
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 19, 2016, 03:19:22 pm
Ok, the image is from the Aspen Colorado area (if that helps)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Acetone on March 19, 2016, 03:24:53 pm

What's the location? :)


Unknown location using FSX and Tileproxy. I bumped into the picture on Imgur, but now I've tracked it further and asked the poster for more definite info.  https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/4ax141/birdseye_view/

Cool, thanks! Never heard of Tileproxy before.
That's a really clever solution for good (and free) quality photoscenery. Not really legal, however. Same problem as usual, eat a metric ton of memory (using a SSD just for that, seriously?) and look bad from close distance, but for a free solution, it's a really nice result :)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 26, 2016, 11:03:22 pm
I love the new rain effect, but I think it may be a bit too subtle. Its very hard to see unless you are standing nearly motionless. When moving fast or from a plane, in the air, its pretty much invisible. Which started be thinking about how others have approached depicting rain.

Someday.........

In the meanwhile, heres some aviation special FX porn!  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuM7k2sjWXw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irw_oAJ0Czs
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 29, 2016, 12:44:47 pm
I found this interesting.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An-k7Mx3xVc
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 02, 2016, 07:45:58 pm
Nice: https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/891


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06B-VOiFomo
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 16, 2016, 10:03:14 pm
Can has in Outerra?  =D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=067NxR4vIFw
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 19, 2016, 10:47:16 pm
99.99% of the procedural cities I see on the web honestly look like doggy poop; usually consisting of grids of varying-height rectangles that look like a ten year old set all his Lego's on edge. Either that or they are slow, or change lod with horrible obviousness or........ sigh.

So its great to find one that seems to work well.

It gives me optimism for Outerras eventual cities! Fly around a bit!

https://www.shadertoy.com/view/XtsSWs

https://www.shadertoy.com/view/XljXR3
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 24, 2016, 11:31:59 am
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/screen_1461290280_zpskyuwnhww.jpg)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on April 24, 2016, 11:50:37 am
Very very simple, but pretty cool effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpGGkA68Y-0
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: Jagerbomber on June 07, 2016, 04:36:39 am
https://youtu.be/FnmWuCtxKw8
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: PytonPago on June 07, 2016, 05:43:51 am
Nice clouds there !
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: zombie00 on June 07, 2016, 12:47:18 pm

That's really, really nice. It seems to be a puzzle game, I wonder how performance goes. I'm guessing Outera will eventually have another layer of clouds, but I wonder if ground wetness is viable too, that certainly adds a lot to the simulation aspect for ground focused applications (racing, troop combat simulators, etc).
The water is also really pretty, a bit stylized, but looks great.
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: KW71 on June 07, 2016, 01:52:07 pm
Demo here:

http://www.indiedb.com/games/reset/downloads/reset-greenlight-demo
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on June 11, 2016, 12:02:05 pm
https://youtu.be/gOAILhCDOHg
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: DenisJ on August 03, 2016, 08:31:01 pm
Not really an image, but still an inspirational demo of dank water that I wanted to share with you:
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/Ms2SD1
I'm wondering how hard would it affect the performance if similar water could be implemented even on really close distances with some lods...
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: CTR on August 15, 2016, 04:18:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdcvPegJ1lw&hd=1

http://www.rug.nl/society-business/centre-for-information-technology/research/hpcv/publications/watershader/
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on October 28, 2016, 12:25:03 pm
 :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTGJOC0stus
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on November 23, 2016, 04:20:31 am
Not sure I like it, but its interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPckIjjljKU
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on December 06, 2016, 02:14:51 pm
Star citizen has updated his facebook cover photo

(https://scontent.fmad3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/15400400_1251810314860988_4176795713636121415_n.jpg?oh=ca13d1373537b3c2ad6ed5efc3cdd532&oe=58EE2F8C)
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 07, 2017, 02:07:22 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv7xbHkLdGw
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on January 11, 2017, 04:39:57 am
Osm Building generation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3_cu-ZpRYQ
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on March 21, 2017, 09:17:09 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TfBGZWFPPw
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: aWac9 on May 13, 2017, 01:55:35 pm
our planet

https://youtu.be/fp3L7Sy9Sp0

https://www.google.com/maps/@60.9877072,-45.4205333,3a,38y,80.89h,80.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfvUxT3uCy8_Dm7tDpM0mYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: MadNick on June 22, 2017, 02:17:32 am
How about this picture view, inspiring, isn't it ?

(https://tranio.com/photos/adt/7132d66c/5793365/1024x681.jpg)
https://tranio.ru/france/provence-alpes-cote_d_azur/cannes/ (https://tranio.ru/france/provence-alpes-cote_d_azur/cannes/)

Wish one day I can afford buying this kind of villa in Cote d'Azur (or at least staying a night :'( ). heh...dreams...
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on August 06, 2017, 03:52:53 pm
This video just yells Outerra, just as many other glider videos have over the years. Once again, we can only sigh and dream......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1s3BA-u6Qo
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on February 14, 2018, 09:20:27 am
https://youtu.be/S-NYS0sA3fs
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: josem75 on May 08, 2018, 05:43:17 am
A rare "Ufo Mode" looks video...   
Some day in Outerra..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJKHZorAaPI
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: HiFlyer on September 25, 2018, 05:01:18 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5uowweBeyI
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: josem75 on October 11, 2018, 05:27:15 pm
It seems that now we will need this :) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Few7FbNHS-I
Title: Re: Inspirational images
Post by: andfly on October 12, 2018, 05:53:37 am
Absolutely superb   :P
Thanks, josem75