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Outerra Engine => Off Topic => Topic started by: James on September 04, 2013, 04:05:44 pm
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I was thinking about dropping out of school to make a game. Of course I wouldn't do it without even starting. Once Outerra is "usable" and I can get started, I thought I should drop out of high school. Maybe school wouldn't be so bad, but, my school is ran by complete retards. They banned backpacks from being carried to classes, and now on the first day of school they fuck up everyone's schedule. On mine they left out Global on my schedule, which is required to graduate, thank god I caught it. I'm in 10th grade now. Does anyone think this is a bad idea? And does anyone even think the engine will be usable before I even graduate high school? I only know Lua, I have another friend who is going to be contributing to my game, he also knows Lua, and one more friend who will be modeling. I've been working on concepts and stuff now, and I already have the idea. If I did drop out then I could spend more of my time on the game, but if something was to fail, I'd be fucked.
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Hi. Do not drop out of high school to make a video game. It's a terrible trade-off to make at an important juncture in your life. That's the best advice you're going to hear. You may think that you don't need high school now, but the chances are that your first attempt at a game will not be successful. You're almost certainly better off developing your idea while in school full time, using weekends and evenings to get it to a point where you can see some real progress. Otherwise, you're trading in your future for an ill-advised shot at the moon. I know it's hard to see the point of all the lame classes, rules and bureaucracy now, but believe me if you can get through the next three short years, you'll have an opportunity to go to a place that doesn't bore you to death -- college. Problem is you can't easily get there if you drop out of high school. You're young. There will be plenty of time to pursue your dreams *after* you've secured a high school diploma that makes you eligible for a job that goes beyond flipping hamburgers.
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Once you drop out.. You lose access to friends and girls. Nobody like the dropouts either.
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Hey... I didn't have that and I didn't drop out......
But don't drop out.
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Once you drop out.. You lose access to friends and girls. Nobody like the dropouts either.
Well, if you're assuming I like any of the people. I'm sure people wouldn't hate me for being a dropout if I dropped out and became rich after.
Hi. Do not drop out of high school to make a video game. It's a terrible trade-off to make at an important juncture in your life. That's the best advice you're going to hear. You may think that you don't need high school now, but the chances are that your first attempt at a game will not be successful. You're almost certainly better off developing your idea while in school full time, using weekends and evenings to get it to a point where you can see some real progress. Otherwise, you're trading in your future for an ill-advised shot at the moon. I know it's hard to see the point of all the lame classes, rules and bureaucracy now, but believe me if you can get through the next three short years, you'll have an opportunity to go to a place that doesn't bore you to death -- college. Problem is you can't easily get there if you drop out of high school. You're young. There will be plenty of time to pursue your dreams *after* you've secured a high school diploma that makes you eligible for a job that goes beyond flipping hamburgers.
Well, a video game would be a job if it sold well, and you don't need a high school diploma to sell your game.
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Well, a video game would be a job if it sold well, and you don't need a high school diploma to sell your game.
Yes and putting it all down on a single number on a roulette wheel pays 35 to 1, but I don't like the odds much.
You wanted advice, so I gave you mine. You want to drop out, go ahead, but as someone with a lot more experience in life than you, I can tell that you're coming at the problem from an emotionally-charged perspective and don't have the experience to make a sound, risk-adjusted decision in this instance.
Then again, maybe I'm just a foolish anonymous poster on an Internet message board, so take my advice for what it's worth.
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Well, a video game would be a job if it sold well, and you don't need a high school diploma to sell your game.
Yes and putting it all down on a single number on a roulette wheel pays 35 to 1, but I don't like the odds much.
You wanted advice, so I gave you mine. You want to drop out, go ahead, but as someone with a lot more experience in life than you, I can tell that you're coming at the problem from an emotionally-charged perspective and don't have the experience to make a sound, risk-adjusted decision in this instance.
Then again, maybe I'm just a foolish anonymous poster on an Internet message board, so take my advice for what it's worth.
It's not an emotionally-charged perspective. I just want to make a video game, and if I drop out I'd be able to work on it full time. I've talked to a couple people and gave them a vague idea of the game, "An apocalyptic MMO which allows the player to travel anywhere on the planet." A lot of people replied with something like, "Well if you need any testers then I'll help!"
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Maybe school wouldn't be so bad, but, my school is ran by complete retards.
Your school is run by complete retards.
Stay in school. It's just far easier to stick it out for a few more years than give up now.
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I've talked to a couple people and gave them a vague idea of the game, "An apocalyptic MMO which allows the player to travel anywhere on the planet." A lot of people replied with something like, "Well if you need any testers then I'll help!"
Internet is full of dreamers with wague ideas, a lot less people create something, because that is a much harder than dreaming. And MMO is the hardest thing to start with.
If I were you, I would stay in school and start with some short simple single player prequel to the big MMO ;)
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I already am very good with Lua, so why should I start small?
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Very good according to who?
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I already am very good with Lua, so why should I start small?
Prove it. What are your references? What you can do with lua? And why not prototyping your game idea with cry engine? They support lua. I can tell the whole day my ideas. The difference is, to realizing them. You have nothing. No education, no skills for making games. You just have the idea, dream whatever. Nobody needs testers when there is nothing to test. Even for a prototype you would need years to develop. Who is paying your bills in this time?
High school might be the hardest time. Many jackasses, small minds. But who cares? In several years you maybe have a master in engineering. THIS will pay your bills, not the dreams in your head. So ignore the retards and dont complain about your life. Only losers are complaining about everything. Winners could handle the stupidity and would use it for their success.
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I've coded all of these:
http://coderhire.com/profile/scripts/1054 (http://coderhire.com/profile/scripts/1054)
I know more than making DarkRP stuff. I've played around with gamemodes, and a lot of people liked them. I consider $1,200 from DarkRP addons in about a month good to me.
Why shouldn't a game be able to pay my bills? I don't want to use Cry Engine because it doesn't satisfy me, so I am waiting for Outerra. Anyone will buy a good game, and I think I can make a good game.
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A game is abled to pay your bills, if its released! Not when its in development. But your DarkRP addons seems to be an infintiy money generator. So quit school. Its stupid, but if you have this opinion you should be fine. You are 16. 16 year old children doesnt know whats good for their life even if they want to believe that. Trust me in that. That is fact. Adults know it better than you. Outerra has no sdk yet. So which effect does this have for your school dropping? Nothing. You cannot make _your_ game with OT although you have dropped school. Thats simply stupid.
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Like I said, I am waiting for the engine to at least be released. Then I am going to start working on the game. If all goes well, if I can actually get work started, then I was thinking of dropping out so I have more time to work on it. I'm actually 15, I turn 16 in January.
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So what? An outerra sdk needs two more years minimum. It will probably released when you finished school, so your arguments are invalid.
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So what? An outerra sdk needs two more years minimum.
I would say, probably in 5y. Still a long way ...
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So what? An outerra sdk needs two more years minimum. It will probably released when you finished school, so your arguments are invalid.
Arguments? I was just wondering if it was a good idea, I even asked if anyone thinks Outerra would be usable before I graduated. If the engine is completed as soon as I graduate, then I am probably going to go to college for video game design and work on my game in my free time. The only thing really driving me right now is Outerra and its progress, and wondering if there is any news today.
If the engine takes 5 years+ to release the SDK, then I'm going to have fun working at .. some.. video game company. Or just prepare the noose!
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If the engine takes 5 years+ to release the SDK, then I'm going to have fun working at .. some.. video game company. Or just prepare the noose!
.. can fill the time in whyte modelling and script pieces testing, so when it comes, it will be a puzzle game. :D Well, you see what the Uni will be, my own experience is, that the bad teachers was just on previous schools (of course, everywhere there are imbeciles to be found) and time could be made if needed reasonably. I would say, you shoud keep up building up your skills anywhere and anyway the life grants you ... and the answer for your questions will be revealed to you whyte every one you get in time. Just keep up pouring good stuff out and dont ewer stop whyte it.
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So what? An outerra sdk needs two more years minimum. It will probably released when you finished school, so your arguments are invalid.
Arguments? I was just wondering if it was a good idea, I even asked if anyone thinks Outerra would be usable before I graduated. If the engine is completed as soon as I graduate, then I am probably going to go to college for video game design and work on my game in my free time. The only thing really driving me right now is Outerra and its progress, and wondering if there is any news today.
If the engine takes 5 years+ to release the SDK, then I'm going to have fun working at .. some.. video game company. Or just prepare the noose!
Yeah, and everybody answered to your questions. Nobody recommend the drop because this idea is stupid. If you have the chance to get a higher graduation, take it. Many people would be happy to have this chance and you think about to throw it on the garbage. And why? Because you are a little kid which wants to be rich as fast as it could be. Damn, this is a bad motivation and will lead you on the path of fail. You dont know how the world is running, so dont jump into the deep sea of failures. But you are 15, so you will know more than me.
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If the engine takes 5 years+ to release the SDK, then I'm going to have fun working at .. some.. video game company. Or just prepare the noose!
.. can fill the time in whyte modelling and script pieces testing, so when it comes, it will be a puzzle game. :D Well, you see what the Uni will be, my own experience is, that the bad teachers was just on previous schools (of course, everywhere there are imbeciles to be found) and time could be made if needed reasonably. I would say, you shoud keep up building up your skills anywhere and anyway the life grants you ... and the answer for your questions will be revealed to you whyte every one you get in time. Just keep up pouring good stuff out and dont ewer stop whyte it.
I guess I could try to learn other languages and some modeling while I wait. And, what's whyte suppose to mean?
So what? An outerra sdk needs two more years minimum. It will probably released when you finished school, so your arguments are invalid.
Arguments? I was just wondering if it was a good idea, I even asked if anyone thinks Outerra would be usable before I graduated. If the engine is completed as soon as I graduate, then I am probably going to go to college for video game design and work on my game in my free time. The only thing really driving me right now is Outerra and its progress, and wondering if there is any news today.
If the engine takes 5 years+ to release the SDK, then I'm going to have fun working at .. some.. video game company. Or just prepare the noose!
Yeah, and everybody answered to your questions. Nobody recommend the drop because this idea is stupid. If you have the chance to get a higher graduation, take it. Many people would be happy to have this chance and you think about to throw it on the garbage. And why? Because you are a little kid which wants to be rich as fast as it could be. Damn, this is a bad motivation and will lead you on the path of fail. You dont know how the world is running, so dont jump into the deep sea of failures. But you are 15, so you will know more than me.
The idea isn't stupid. It's reasonable, because I wanted to drop out of school so I can spend my time developing a video game. How is that stupid? To want to put all of my time into making my video game? And have what chance? A chance at collage? Well, I'm not even there yet, and it's probably going to cost a fuck-ton of money, I just hope my dad can afford it. I'm not a little kid that what's to be rich, I don't give a shit if I am a millionaire or not, I just want to stay ALIVE from a video game. I just care to buy my food and a home, and I could get that by making a video game, because I actually want to make a video game. I'm not going to turn my life into a pathetic one where I have to work somewhere I don't want to, the only place I want to work is in coding. I know just fine how awful the world is. I've heard its music, seen its people, the world is nothing but an ocean of shit, but why should I let that stop me from making a video game that I would love to make? It depends what you mean by "I'd know more than you," but it sounds like you're biased towards me. Of course we think differently, we have different feelings, different likes and dislikes, different hopes and dreams, different perspectives. So who are you to insult me?
Like I've been saying, I'm not dropping out of school to wait for Outerra's completion. If the engine is released and I start using it, I wouldn't even drop out until I've started the project, and am at the point to say, "So much work to be done. I wish I had more time." But by the sounds if it, the engine won't be done until I've even graduated, so I would go to collage and work on the game in my free time. If I am in the middle of my last year of school when the engine is released, of course I won't drop out then either.
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Damn, you didnt get it. You have to increase your skills. What you can do know is not enough for paying your bills. Thats all. You need years to be a professional. And you have the time now. So use it in your freetime. Pupils have much of it. You never will have that much freetime for your hobbies.
And btw. dont ask if you dont want to hear voices who dislike your idea.
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You don't know shit. Stay in school and learn. If you want to program for a livelyhood, you need to go to college.
LUA is just a simple script language. You need to learn C++ and all the algorithms and mathematics that it is used for. Then you need to learn something like Parasail, and start figuring out how to design for multicore cpu's. You have a VERY long way to go kid. As they told me the first day in College orientation - "You don't know shit". And man, were they right!
Another thing you should be told, community college is a LOT harder than these State and Private Universities. They don't dare flunk their students for fear of losing daddy's money. Community colleges don't give a crap. They are much harder. They don't get daddy's money. Their paid for by people working at McDonald's. They'll flunk you without a second thought. Employers who graduated from the State and Private college's also tend to dis them when your looking for a job, even though they are tougher to get through. So try to get in the State and Private Colleges if you can. Avoid the Community ones.
I just hope my dad can afford it. I'm not a little kid that what's to be rich, I don't give a shit if I am a millionaire or not, I just want to stay ALIVE from a video game. I just care to buy my food and a home
Was just reading your post kid. One, you shouldn't rely on Daddy getting you anywhere. "I just care to buy my food and a home" - LOL, your a dreamer. You obviously have led a somewhat protected life. Here's reality. You drop out of school, you aren't going to have shit. You'll be lucky if you can get Social Services to give you some food stamps. They most likely will not. Your just going to find yourself broke and homeless. I'm a Medical Lab Tech. I have 2 Associate Degrees in Science. I can barely make enough to stay alive, and pay for a small apartment. The world is very rough. If you don't graduate High School, about the only place that is going to take you is McDonald's and "maybe" the Army. Otherwise, most dropouts end up in Prison.