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Title: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: bongodriver on March 19, 2014, 01:35:49 pm
https://www.oculusvr.com/order/ (https://www.oculusvr.com/order/)
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: M7 on March 19, 2014, 02:32:17 pm
Very tempting.....
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Jagerbomber on March 19, 2014, 05:18:58 pm
Here's the full page btw
http://www.oculusvr.com/dk2/ (http://www.oculusvr.com/dk2/)

Definitely want more than ever, but I'm still gonna way for the consumer version.

Is this the Crystal Cove?  What is it using for positional tracking with the camera if there isn't the white dots on it?
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: bongodriver on March 19, 2014, 05:31:07 pm
No it's not crystal cove but it must have most of the same features, it is interesting that there are no visible IR dots, but we can only assume it is using them or something equivalent or the IR camera is pointless.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: ZeosPantera on March 19, 2014, 05:35:13 pm
Evil.. Too tempting to be good. TOO TEMPTING.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Jagerbomber on March 19, 2014, 05:51:49 pm
Actually, according to Kotaku, it is the Crystal Cove.  Oh and as for the the positional tracking, I looked at the picture again and it looks like there's a black IR light panel in the top center perhaps?
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: ZeosPantera on March 19, 2014, 06:54:09 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4d3Wli7s6KY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4d3Wli7s6KY)
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Jagerbomber on March 19, 2014, 07:13:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4d3Wli7s6KY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4d3Wli7s6KY)

So now you can't use your own camera?.... bs
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: ZeosPantera on March 19, 2014, 11:28:17 pm
I can understand the requirement. Can't rely on everyone/anyone to have a camera with the right specs and don't want people complaining that it isn't working as intended. They give you the camera included in the price so it isn't anything extra.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: PaulMoffat on March 20, 2014, 12:39:16 am
Awesome. I'm holding off until the consumer version though myself. Let everyone else pay for the R&D process hehehe  ;D

I have my TrackIR too keep me entertained until then.  8)
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Jagerbomber on March 20, 2014, 05:30:08 pm
I can understand the requirement. Can't rely on everyone/anyone to have a camera with the right specs and don't want people complaining that it isn't working as intended. They give you the camera included in the price so it isn't anything extra.

Yes, but that is $50 more than the old kit.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: ZeosPantera on March 21, 2014, 03:43:12 am
The screen in it is 1080p and 5".. i would blame that more than the camera.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Timmo on March 24, 2014, 06:35:29 pm
I get the feeling Oculus is going to have to get a move on given the recent announcement by Sony about their VR headset....
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: bongodriver on March 24, 2014, 07:03:18 pm
Why, the sony headset is for their own console and has an inferior FOV, Oculus are taking care of the PC market.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Elecman on March 24, 2014, 07:59:17 pm
I hope Outerra will support the new positional tracking in the DK2 from day one. I ordered one and would love to play with it in Outerra.

Also, it would be nice if it is possible to set the default head position because in the MIG the head is too far backward.

By the way, DK2 != crystalCove. They both have a low persistence OLED screen (no blurring when you move your head) and positional tracking but they are not exactly the same. The DK2 still has the IR led's but they are hidden behind IR translucent plastic.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: christibbs on March 26, 2014, 04:09:36 am
any thoughts on facebook buying Oculus? Personally I don't mind, I actually think it will improve the product.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Elecman on March 26, 2014, 04:58:14 am
I think this development is positive in the long run *if* Facebook doesn't go bust. The stock price trades higher then the entire GDP of New Zealand at the moment, which means it most likely is in a massive bubble.

But at least Oculus can now order a custom panel made to their own specifications as Palmer noted on Reddit.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: SpaceFlight on March 26, 2014, 05:33:28 am
Actually, according to Kotaku, it is the Crystal Cove.  Oh and as for the the positional tracking, I looked at the picture again and it looks like there's a black IR light panel in the top center perhaps?

Here is a link to the Occulus blog. http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/announcing-the-oculus-rift-development-kit-2-dk2/ (http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/announcing-the-oculus-rift-development-kit-2-dk2/)

If you scroll down a bit, you can see how the positional tracking is built into the headset.

As Elecman pointed out, the led's are hidden behind the plastic.

And this is what Mr. Luckey had to say about the camera on Reddit:

"Not a standard webcam at all, then. If someone told you that it was, they were mistaken.

I can't go into the technical details, but the camera was designed from the ground up for our motion tracking system, from the internal electronics to the 3D printed shell. A standard webcam cannot deliver high enough quality data, the closest comparison is professional-grade motion capture hardware."

About the acquisition of Oculus by Facebook, Mr. Luckey answers some questions about the possible consequences of the deal here: http://www.reddit.com/user/palmerluckey (http://www.reddit.com/user/palmerluckey)

If i need a Cr*pbook, excuse me, Facebook account to log into the Consumer Version, and i will be bombarded with ads and other useless stuff, i won't buy it. I'm a bit disappointed about this, but i guess we'll see where this goes.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: PytonPago on March 26, 2014, 06:29:13 am
Well, its still a dev-kit version. Dont think they do such stuff to normal costumers when its ready. ... the cammera talk is interesting. Would be interesting to build an home-made motion track set-up whyte some of those, hope they get to sell them separately afterwards too ...
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: ZeosPantera on March 26, 2014, 12:22:27 pm
I hope the Facebook acquisition is a mere monetary one. We want to make money on your idea and have no part in its use. Please.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: SpaceFlight on March 27, 2014, 04:39:54 am
I hope so too.
The last thing the headset would need is "The Farmville Experience", or "Candy Crush 3D".
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: cameni on March 27, 2014, 05:47:41 am
I was asked about it (among the other devs) by Gamasutra editor, quoted here here: http://gamasutra.com/view/news/213947/In_the_wake_of_Oculus_Facebook_deal_game_devs_ponder_whats_next.php (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/213947/In_the_wake_of_Oculus_Facebook_deal_game_devs_ponder_whats_next.php)

Speaking of the competition, here's one that revealed itself after this: http://www.trueplayergear.com/ (http://www.trueplayergear.com/)
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: bongodriver on March 27, 2014, 05:56:27 am
I think this other hardware is some sort of fake, far too coincidental the timing of its appearance.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: PytonPago on March 27, 2014, 06:29:57 am
I think this other hardware is some sort of fake, far too coincidental the timing of its appearance.

It doesnt seem to be much forward on its state anywhere aether ...

As for FB - you dont mean they do acquire Oculus, make it crash and get the tech/soft legals for cheap for their own bidding or sale for highest bidder somehow ? (or got added to the great hidden tech stash Teslas inventions disappeared for future unknowns)
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: ZeosPantera on March 27, 2014, 12:25:32 pm
Well Valve is supposedly working on one but no sight of that and based on the previous valve not showing us anything mantra.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: PytonPago on March 27, 2014, 01:13:25 pm
Well Valve is supposedly working on one but no sight of that and based on the previous valve not showing us anything mantra.

Ah Valve ... theyr saving that for HL-3 ... that comes in 2015 ... well 2018 ... 2021 ... when Russians land an manned mision on mars. So they can play the multiplayer those 3 weeks of flight.  ;)
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Jagerbomber on March 27, 2014, 05:16:27 pm
It's kind of already been stated that they aren't making it for release.  Of course, who knows really?  There was an article from someone that said that it was better than the Oculus DK1, but probably not as good as Crystal Cove/DK2.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: KelvinNZ on May 16, 2014, 08:30:19 pm
I just preordered the Dev kit 2, purely because I was bored and want to see what sort of potential this thing has. As an official nerd I suppose it is my duty to experience this first hand then blabber about it in an informative way later. So, the journey begins...
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: PytonPago on May 20, 2014, 03:24:24 pm
http://interestingengineering.com/norwegian-army-trials-oculus-rift-to-drive-tanks/ (http://interestingengineering.com/norwegian-army-trials-oculus-rift-to-drive-tanks/)

... DAMN ! We need a good-made drivable tank pretty soon, or the Norvegans take all the fun ! :D
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: raggsokken on July 29, 2014, 10:57:53 am
Brano, have you ordered a DK2? And when/if can we expect outerra to support it? Anteworld is one of my favorite experiences with the dk1, and i can't wait to try it out with positional tracking and increased resolution :D


Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: cameni on July 29, 2014, 11:11:37 am
Our DK2 was supposed to arrive tomorrow, but tracking info asserts it went to Zurich instead :-\
Waiting for reply from Oculus support.

We are already looking at the SDK, but it was changed considerably and it may take us some time to adopt it into OT. Also, requirements like v-sync and low persistence only at 75Hz will make it harder to achieve consistent experience - I'm quite interested to see how it will work in OT.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Tacklebait on July 29, 2014, 11:15:32 am
Can't wait,
Flying the mig around was my personal favorite experience with my dk1.  Good luck getting your rift!
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: raggsokken on July 29, 2014, 11:33:19 am
Lets hope it's just a glitch in UPS's system:
http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2c1hk1/what_the_fuck_ups_my_package_was_in_seattle_30/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2c1hk1/what_the_fuck_ups_my_package_was_in_seattle_30/)

Good to hear you're already looking in to it :) My dk2 is scheduled to arrive on friday^^
I tried to use the razer hydra for positional tracking with the dk1, but it was difficult to calibrate it correctly so it felt a bit wonky.
I'm especially looking forward to be able to lean in and see the instrument panels when flying the mig.  (and hopefully not get nauseous so quickly)

Good luck getting it working!
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: bongodriver on July 29, 2014, 01:34:44 pm
My DK2 was waiting for me at home today, now just plugged it in and trying to set it up......excited :)
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: mLichy on August 01, 2014, 09:17:41 am
Good to hear it's being looked into!  I think Outerra is one of the best/if not one of the coolest VR demos so far. 
I'm sure you guys will figure something out. 

I hope you get your headset cameni!
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Tacklebait on August 07, 2014, 12:43:35 pm
Patiently waiting for an update. 

Who am I kidding, any word on integration??!?

:)
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: cameni on August 08, 2014, 06:53:41 am
The DK2 SDK seems to have been rushed out too early. There are problems getting it to work with OpenGL at all. Hopefully there will be an updated version soon.

But it's going to take a while also because a lot has changed there and we need to customize the OT rendering pipeline for it.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Thamsite on August 12, 2014, 03:33:51 am
Keep us updated the Dk2 community is ready to test.
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: bongodriver on August 12, 2014, 01:50:28 pm
SDK just got an update to 0.4.1
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: Handpuppe on September 02, 2014, 10:58:45 am
Got my DK2 in today... I so hope this will work guys :D
Title: Re: Oculus rift DK2 is now available for pre-order
Post by: CaptTrego on September 24, 2014, 11:04:08 am
Spotted this on the "MakeUseOf" website and newsletter:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/oculus-rift-development-kit-2-review-giveaway/ (http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/oculus-rift-development-kit-2-review-giveaway/)