Post by: cameni on January 30, 2015, 04:25:50 pm
Changes:
Version 0.8.4.6017 (16 Oct 2015)
- scenery editor update - leveling (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3430.0)
- basic differential support for vehicles
- fixed snow material missing from friction data
- fixed multi-material import
- fixed object visibility issues
- deferred UI loading to fix a slight freezing after start
- fixed UI vertical offset when window size is larger than the screen
- tire friction depending on surface material
- default vehicle steering slower with higher speeds
- fixed black screen in MSAA modes
- extended controls support for vehicles and aircraft (see defaults/iomap/readme.txt for technical details)
- moved iomap/xxx.default.cfg to defaults/iomap/xxx.cfg
- default bindings for trim (ctrl + action key)
- separate altitude-hold (shift A) and Stability Augmentation System (shift S) for heli,
- F12 shows new controls UI
- scenery editor update, ctrl modifier for forced mouse panning
- updated mig29, c172, ah64, c172 & mig29 sound updates (uriah, kw71, levi)
- c172 made available in demo mode
- added a fire(pos,dir,speed,caliber,color) method to aircraft/vehicle for firing plasma rays
- added test/demo fire event handlers (left mouse button) to T817 and MiG
- fixed tracer burn lights being offset from the landing position and sometimes burning forever
- rotation vector normalization to geomob joint rotation functions
- planet cfg saved at exit
- hud distance working in full range into star background
- added option to not use imperial units in aircraft hud
- fixed moon lighting, flickering at atmo boundary
- fixed rivers in stereo mode
- sRGB texelFetch bug detection handling the MSAA mode as well (pale grass bug)
- fixed crash after the first road waypoint was deleted
- fixed invisible leading road segments
- fix for spikes on terrain from roads going through lowest tile point (needs reapplying the road)
- added "strict" property into objdef, newly imported objects = true, old ones default to false; causes "use strict" in vehicle/aircraft scripts
- fixed jsbsim wind vector
- fixed HID config not being saved for new non-calibrated devices
- new scenery editor on alt-F1 (alpha)
- support for basic vector rivers (not persistent yet)
- new weather settings in F11, cloud coverage, wind settings
- wind affecting aircraft, grass, tress ...
- sunlight and moonlight levels modulated by adjustable cloud cover
- monochromatic rendering in low light conditions to simulate human eye
- moon model (not procedural yet), correct position and phase, affects night lighting levels
- better detection of sRGB color bug on some AMD cards (pale grass issue)
- fixed patterns visible on dirt
- adjusted rock coloring, rock displacement, enhanced dirt patch texturing
- controls menu showing modifiers, fixed right-click to clear, fixed detection of keys with modifiers
- added vehicle/aircraft solar_time script method returning time info and outside light levels (useful for controlling automatic lights control on vehicles)
- error log behavior changed to one-line alert message on error, auto turning off in 3 sec
- default log shortcut changed to alt-L, alt-shift-L opens external [url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8][url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8][url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8][url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8][url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8][url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8][url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8]eng.log (http://goo.gl/DaK1M8)[/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url] tracker window
- console .active command to bind to current vehicle
- fix for floating grass, road spikes in editor
- fixed set_fps_camera_pos reset back to no joint
- fixed app crash when there's an error in aircraft script
- fixed shader errors on old NV cards
- fixed sky/stars/clouds in spherical projection mode
- fixed small mesh visibility (vanishing cockpit instruments or other small objects off the main pivot)
- fixed fullscreen geographic projection mode
- fixed ui visible in saved location screenshots
- workaround for buggy NVIDIA driver 350.12
- fixed issues with controls
- restored rock displacement
- vertical mouse enabled in ufo+oculus
- ufo panning mode (shift-home toggle)
- fixed video capture with swap_interval 1
- fixed FBX normals import
- fixed bone_id in add_spot_light and add_point_light plane and vehicle
- pink mipmaps mode enabled with debug_keys only
- fixed "dirt" building leveling
- light_xxx_mask added optional mask offset to cope with limited mask range, fixed aircraft lights on reload
- adjusted spotlight reflector lighting
- added add_spot_light/add_point_light with light_params arg, optional intensity, range or both
- fixed blackness with high light intensity (there's still some limit though)
- added aircraft/vehicle set_pitch_roll
- new input system doesn't work there yet, but iomap configs have been moved to a separate directory
- fix for joystick pots that do not have neutral value at 0, only 4 pot positions can be assigned for now
- geom::set_mesh_visible can hide multiple meshes with trailing @ or *
- fixed sky in environment map
- added pitch and roll to aircraft scenario window
- adjusted rock coloring
- updated SM11 lights, adjusted T817 cabin light to not light the terrain
- enhanced CPU side object rendering perf
- fixed crash in aircraft with missing JSBSim propulsion
- fixed transparency vs clouds
- new temporary stable bloom, little bit faster and nicer
- vehicle/aircraft script initialization events called even in paused mode
- fixed shader error in oculus
- workaround for purple terrain driver bug on old ati cards and newer catalyst drivers
- updated MiG - lights, simple engine glow, additional skins (CZ, RU) - many thanks to Uriah for providing these
- added open "location from image" into F2 location dialog, to load GPS info from photos
- fixed spotlight orientation vector (was unable to point in Z direction)
- fixed crash on v (change seat) key
- missing texture mipmaps replaced with pink textures + warning
- fixed perf problem in F2 advanced options
- spot lights now also light up the reflector, making the lights visible better
- full lights on SM11 bus and T817 truck
- vehicle turn signals - manual (shift+A/D for left right, shift+W emergency, shift+S all off)
- light_mask and light_toggle_mask methods to manipulate multiple lights at once
- fixed glow rendering in stereo
- fixed deformed reflections on objects
- vertical mouse working in TPS with Oculus, aiming working with Oculus
- fixed location manager to exit vehicle when changing location
- fix for Nv 2xx water path shader compilation error
- lights removed when aircraft is deleted
- fixed crash if maximum number of mesh isntances is reached
- fixed shaders for Nvidia <400 series cards
- fixed location window opening from sandbox
- lights on SM11 (based on Uriah's code, fixed braking lights and key controls)
- clouds (alpha)
- visibility to 100km only, single layer
- alt+left/right arrow adjust time, affects clouds as well
- alt+up/down - days, different cloud cover
- some blending artifacts up close and in clouds
- missing more details when close to the clouds
- collision geometry support (TODO: link doc or wiki)
- collidable static objects
- lights support in vehicle and aircraft (see T817 script)
- vehicle script actions getting kbd modifiers to expand key actions
- T817 L - front lights, left-shift-L - cabin light
- added seat/camera switching support (key V)
- default tire lateral slip coefficient changed from 0.5 to 0.8 (better turning)
- added tags into models & objdef files (for upcoming searchable object browser)
- F2 location dialog updated, Google Maps search+map
- locations saved as jpg files with Exif (GPS info)
- screenshots saved with more Exif info (time, author), can be used to restore location and time
- objdef "parameters" field passed into initialize(params) event of aircraft
- aircraft preserve pitch&roll angles when setting rotation
- added concrete & yellow marking textures, double line markings
- less noisy road & marking shapes in distance
- fps camera attached joint preserved when toggling cameras
- direct disk video frame writing (faster)
- fixed lagging terrain shadow culling
- smooth lighting from fading sun
- enhanced object rendering CPU-side performance on large scenery
- fixed stars in fog
- added disable_aero config option (aero always disabled in Rift mode)
- perf log entries reporting abnormal gpu times in perf log
- error window popup can be disabled in eng.cfg disable_log_popup=true
- fixed 3D audio orientation
- fix for sound glitches (explosions)
- trees not rendered in map projection modes
- enabled alt+f4, ctrl+f4 to close html windows
- fixed material problem in multi object packages
- panning/rotating in wasd sandbox mode on left button
- tmp fix for tilting ufo camera
- -autologin command line switch support
- libovr 0.4.4 integrated
- HUD displays mouse world pos when mouse cursor is shown (sandbox) instead of the screen center
Previous version thread: 0.8.3.x (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=2234.0)
Post by: Krutan on January 30, 2015, 04:28:57 pm
Edit: Holy *peep*, just look at them clouds :D
(http://i.imgur.com/hJc0Jsx.jpg)
Post by: Acetone on January 30, 2015, 05:07:20 pm
| (http://i.imgur.com/ujVtAiB.jpg) | (http://i.imgur.com/rD1s9mV.jpg) |
| (http://i.imgur.com/xl8QNYB.jpg) | (http://i.imgur.com/XnKjuCd.jpg) |
| (http://i.imgur.com/aNKvWQb.jpg) | (http://i.imgur.com/h3VzG6U.jpg) |
Awesome work Outerra team!
Post by: balfourcraig on January 30, 2015, 05:08:07 pm
I've attached screenshots of the errors below.
Really hoping this is fixed since the new clouds sound amazing!
Post by: HiFlyer on January 30, 2015, 05:16:39 pm
One problem: Clicking on "location" with the mouse does nothing. Fortunately clicking "F2" still works. :)
Second unresolved issue: Still getting rhythmic hitching in Talkeetna and some other areas. (really hoping that goes away some day)
3rd Issue: Yellow Perf warning about the Cessna being "Blocked" for various amounts of time.
Post by: cameni on January 30, 2015, 05:21:51 pm
Something isn't working. When I start Outerra a bunch of red errors show up at the bottom. OpenGL to do with clouds I think. I hit login and it says loading planetary data, then dies with a fatal error.What GPU and driver version is it?
Post by: zzz on January 30, 2015, 05:29:18 pm
Post by: Varldsligist on January 30, 2015, 05:30:17 pm
Let me end with a question to you, the more experienced and tech-savvy users out there; what will this update yield in terms of modding options? What will it enable you to create? I imagine streets lights in the Alaska mod? :)
Post by: balfourcraig on January 30, 2015, 05:30:35 pm
I have a GT 240, with what I think is the latest driver. Downloading the latest now so we will see if that makes any difference. It was working up until this update though.
Post by: PytonPago on January 30, 2015, 05:34:21 pm
... have that location bar not opening by mouse too. Also, Urals gets blocked too for few milliseconds sometimes (mostly till 80ms).
... GTX570 (347.25 version), intel core i5-2500 3.30Ghz ...
P.S.: if ya post some details about light-source definition constants, ill be the happiest modder ever ! =D Also, can we change the cloud-base height somehow ?
EDIT: ... i also found that textures we used as "illuminated" are now much more darker in night-time (no more lighted instruments panel details :O )
Also a little test with AntiAliasing :
- FXAA :
(http://t3.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/03/o_466167923_76db6c641e81bbf62c56a74c5d7df281.jpg?t=&h=uQ-OZXcT4AWW89WrH9KjpQ&e=2145916800&d=o_466167923_76db6c641e81bbf62c56a74c5d7df281.jpg)
- MSAA 2x
(http://t4.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/04/o_466167924_692199d5c7dc3e0137038bc3b52f4046.jpg?t=&h=k50xYntgidUSHLmxNwTcdg&e=2145916800&d=o_466167924_692199d5c7dc3e0137038bc3b52f4046.jpg)
- MSAA 2x + FXAA
(http://t4.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/06/o_466167926_40d0ed39bbe41cff5211a794d6309b40.jpg?t=&h=6HZwRFt4EpJlSTXo99rS-w&e=2145916800&d=o_466167926_40d0ed39bbe41cff5211a794d6309b40.jpg)
- MSAA 4x
(http://t1.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/07/o_466167927_259813a5fb028031cb171cc7c9e81621.jpg?t=&h=gbYeu--MS22BpYSOphEMPw&e=2145916800&d=o_466167927_259813a5fb028031cb171cc7c9e81621.jpg)
... there is some sort of "white aura" around trees and some objects when clouds are behind them ... hope it helps, Cameni.
Post by: cameni on January 30, 2015, 05:36:30 pm
interesting. so what are the input variables for add_spotlight_source?Will be adding docs into wiki, but quickly:
//@param offset model-space offset relative to the bone or model pivot
//@param dir light direction
//@param size diameter of the light source (reflector)
//@param angle light field angle [deg]
//@param edge soft edge coefficient, 0..1 portion of the light area along the edges where light fades to make it soft
//@param color RGB color and intensity of the light emitter
//@param fadeout time to fade after turning off
//@param joint joint name to attach the light to (default empty string for body)
Post by: balfourcraig on January 30, 2015, 05:40:30 pm
Post by: cameni on January 30, 2015, 05:41:17 pm
Can we change the cloud-base height somehow ?
Right now only through console (alt+c)
Code: [Select]
.bind e environment
e.set_cloud_params(5000, 2000)
First parameter being the base cloud altitude, the second is max height of clouds.
Post by: cameni on January 30, 2015, 05:44:13 pm
Updated graphics driver for GT240, still the same. Crashing at start-up, fatal error.Looks that older Nvidia GPUs are using different (not updated) code paths in shaders, even though drivers are new. We'll have to test it with an older Nv card.
Post by: PytonPago on January 30, 2015, 06:00:00 pm
interesting. so what are the input variables for add_spotlight_source?Will be adding docs into wiki, but quickly:
//@param offset model-space offset relative to the bone or model pivot
//@param dir light direction
//@param size diameter of the light source (reflector)
//@param angle light field angle [deg]
//@param edge soft edge coefficient, 0..1 portion of the light area along the edges where light fades to make it soft
//@param color RGB color and intensity of the light emitter
//@param fadeout time to fade after turning off
//@param joint joint name to attach the light to (default empty string for body)
Thanks a lot ! ... jumping right into doing some more MAGIC ! ;)
Post by: DenisJ on January 30, 2015, 06:37:01 pm
Oops, I just apparently changed data folder before. Everything works perfectly so far.
Post by: PytonPago on January 30, 2015, 06:49:43 pm
Post by: Jagerbomber on January 30, 2015, 07:01:01 pm
But uh.... How do I select multiple waypoints or a whole road again?... :-[
Also, when using the map overlay, could the road selection outlines show 100% no matter what the transparency is set to? And maybe they could be thicker as well.
Dang... It sure is hard to roll the truck now.... At least where I am... But I finally pulled it off in the steepest part of town. :P But of course I fell through the ground. :facepalm:
Post by: Uriah on January 30, 2015, 07:22:39 pm
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//Point Light
this.add_pointlight_source(
{x:31,y:-5,z:1.5}, //x y z position meters
1.0, // ?
{x:0,y:23.9,z:1.5}, //RBG color and intensity
1.0); //fade out time
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//Spot Light
this.add_spotlight_source(
{x:20,y:-5.0,z:10.0}, // x y z positon meters
{y:1}, // ?
180, // spot angle (degrees) axis ?
180, // spot angle (degrees) axis ?
355, // spot angle (degrees) axis ?
{x:0,y:300,z:300}, //RGB color/intensity
0.5); ///fade time
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function action(k,v,dt,m)
{
switch(k){
case ALight: {
if(m&1)
this.light_toggle(2);
else if(m==0) {
this.light_toggle(0);
this.light_toggle(1);
this.light_toggle(2);
this.light_toggle(3);
this.light_toggle(4);
this.light_toggle(5);
this.light_toggle(6);
this.light_toggle(7);
this.light_toggle(8);
this.light_toggle(9);
}
}break;
}
}
Post by: Varldsligist on January 30, 2015, 07:31:04 pm
Post by: Uriah on January 30, 2015, 07:31:59 pm
Post by: Varldsligist on January 30, 2015, 07:42:59 pm
@Varldsligist: 'L' keyI noticed I wasn't using the "right" vehicle. No wonder L didn't work! I always drive the bus and the bus only. Switching to the truck did the trick ;) Looks good! Although I think it needs more of a yellowish tint for the sake of realism. I don't think old russian(?) trucks use LED:s ^-^. I'm Looking forward to late night cliff tours once the bus has working headlights aswell.
Post by: konaone on January 30, 2015, 08:22:14 pm
Post by: Uriah on January 30, 2015, 08:27:17 pm
Damn, even I have error !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nvidia gtx 295 !!! hhhhhhhhhhhhhh elp !!! >:(
Cloud system? Did you update your GPU/OpenGL drivers? I have an NVIDIA 560M, but both the drivers and OpenGL were out of date.
Here is the NVIDIA Driver Downloads page, just specify your GPU and the download includes the most recent OpenGL version.
Regards,
Uriah
Post by: DenisJ on January 30, 2015, 09:44:57 pm
Is it the reason why vehicles begin to drift when driving at 20 km/h?
- default tire lateral slip coefficient changed from 0.5 to 0.8 (better turning)
Post by: Uriah on January 30, 2015, 10:22:18 pm
@Varldsligist: 'L' keyI noticed I wasn't using the "right" vehicle. No wonder L didn't work! I always drive the bus and the bus only. Switching to the truck did the trick ;) Looks good! Although I think it needs more of a yellowish tint for the sake of realism. I don't think old russian(?) trucks use LED:s ^-^. I'm Looking forward to late night cliff tours once the bus has working headlights aswell.
Well here you go then! Yellow tinted headlights, plus red tail and brake lights and interior lights. I'm
Just replace the script for the sm11.js with this:
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var swheel, d1=[], d2=[], d3=[];
function radians(v){return v*Math.PI/180.0;}
//invoked only the first time the model is loaded, or upon reload
function init_chassis(param)
{
var wheelparam = {
radius: 0.48,
width: 0.25,
suspension_max: 0.4,
suspension_min: -0.2,
suspension_stiffness: 20.0,
damping_compression: 0.1,
damping_relaxation: 0.12,
slip: 0.9,
roll_influence: 0.1
};
this.add_wheel('KLP', wheelparam);
this.add_wheel('KPP', wheelparam);
this.add_wheel('KLZ', wheelparam);
this.add_wheel('KPZ', wheelparam);
var body = this.get_geomob(0);
swheel = body.get_joint('Vol');
d1[0] = body.get_joint('DvAa');
d1[1] = body.get_joint('DvAb');
d1[2] = body.get_joint('DvAc');
d2[0] = body.get_joint('DvBa');
d2[1] = body.get_joint('DvBb');
d2[2] = body.get_joint('DvBc');
d2[3] = body.get_joint('DvBd');
d3[0] = body.get_joint('DvCa');
d3[1] = body.get_joint('DvCb');
d3[2] = body.get_joint('DvCc');
d3[3] = body.get_joint('DvCd');
//sounds
this.load_sound("diesel-engine-start.ogg");
this.load_sound("bus-idle.ogg");
this.load_sound("diesel-engine-stop.ogg");
this.load_sound("bus-roith.ogg");
this.load_sound("bus-door.ogg");
this.add_sound_emitter("KPP");
this.add_sound_emitter("KPZ");
this.add_sound_emitter("DvAb");
//head lights
this.add_spotlight_source({x:-1.04,y:7.76,z:0.85}, {y:1}, 0.2, 54, 0.08, {x:.5,y:.2,z:.2}, 0.2);
this.add_spotlight_source({x:1.04,y:7.76,z:0.85}, {y:1}, 0.2, 54, 0.08, {x:.5,y:.2,z:.2}, 0.2);
this.add_spotlight_source({x:-0.8,y:7.77,z:0.85}, {y:1}, 0.2, 54, 0.08, {x:.5,y:.2,z:.2}, 0.2);
this.add_spotlight_source({x:0.8,y:7.77,z:0.85}, {y:1}, 0.2, 54, 0.08, {x:.5,y:.2,z:.2}, 0.2);
//tail lights
this.add_pointlight_source({x:1.04,y:-3.2,z:0.85}, 1.0, {x:0.1,y:0.0,z:0.0}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:-1.04,y:-3.2,z:0.85}, 1.0, {x:0.1,y:0.0,z:0.0}, 0.4);
//brake lights
this.add_pointlight_source({x:-0.8,y:-3.18,z:0.85}, 1.0, {x:0.1,y:0.0,z:0.0}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0.8,y:-3.18,z:0.85}, 1.0, {x:0.1,y:0.0,z:0.0}, 0.4);
//cabin lights
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:5.9,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:3.9,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:1.9,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:-0.1,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:-2.1,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
return {mass:8000, com:{y:3}};
}
const MaxDoorSpeed = 60; //deg/s
const MaxDoorAccel = 1200;//deg/s^2
//invoked for each new instance of the vehicle
function init_vehicle()
{
this.set_fps_camera_pos({x:-0.8,y:6.6,z:2.0});
this.geom = this.get_geomob(0);
this.d1 = new axis_integrator(radians(MaxDoorSpeed), radians(MaxDoorAccel), 0, radians(90));
this.d2 = new axis_integrator(radians(MaxDoorSpeed-12), radians(MaxDoorAccel), 0, radians(90));
this.d3 = new axis_integrator(radians(MaxDoorSpeed-8), radians(MaxDoorAccel), 0, radians(90));
this.snd = this.sound();
this.snd.set_ref_distance(0, 4.0);
this.snd.set_ref_distance(1, 6.0);
this.started = 0;
}
function engine(start)
{
if(start) {
this.started=1;
this.snd.play_sound(0, 0);
this.snd.enqueue_loop(0, 1);
this.snd.enqueue_loop(1, 3);
this.eng=0;
}
else {
this.started=0;
this.snd.play_sound(0, 2);
}
}
//handle extra actions
function action(k,v,dt)
{
switch(k){
case AOpen: {
var d = this.d1.value>0 ? -1 : 1;
this.d1.set(d);
this.d2.set(d);
this.d3.set(d);
this.snd.play_sound(2,4);
}break;
case ALight: {
if(1==1){
this.light_toggle(0);
this.light_toggle(1);
this.light_toggle(2);
this.light_toggle(3);
this.light_toggle(4);
this.light_toggle(5);
this.light_toggle(6);
this.light_toggle(7);
this.light_toggle(8);
this.light_toggle(9);
this.light_toggle(10);
this.light_toggle(11);
}
else if(m==0) {
this.light_toggle(0);
this.light_toggle(1);
}
}break;
}
}
const EF = 20000.0;
const BF = 4000.0;
const maxkmh = 80;
const forceloss = EF / (0.4*maxkmh + 1);
//invoked each frame to handle inputs and animate the model
function update_frame(dt, engine, brake, steering)
{
var kmh = this.max_tire_speed()*3.6;
if(!this.snd.is_looping(0))
engine = 0;
var ax = {y:-1};
if(this.d1.changed(dt)){
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d1[0], this.d1.value, ax);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d1[1], this.d1.value, ax);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d1[2], -this.d1.value, ax);
}
if(this.d2.changed(dt)){
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d2[0], this.d2.value, ax);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d2[1], this.d2.value, ax);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d2[2], -this.d2.value, ax);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d2[3], -this.d2.value, ax);
}
if(this.d3.changed(dt)){
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d3[0], this.d3.value, ax);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d3[1], this.d3.value, ax);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d3[2], -this.d3.value, ax);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(d3[3], -this.d3.value, ax);
}
//filtered raw engine value for pitch boost
var ea = dt/(0.2+dt);
this.eng = ea*engine + (1-ea)*this.eng;
//reduce engine force with speed (hack)
var redux = engine>=0 ? 0.2 : 0.6;
var esign = engine<0 ? -1 : 1;
engine = EF*Math.abs(engine);
var force = (esign>0) == (kmh>=0)
? engine/(redux*Math.abs(kmh) + 1)
: engine;
force -= forceloss;
force = Math.max(0.0, Math.min(force, engine));
engine = esign*force;
steering *= 0.7;
this.steer(0, steering);
this.steer(1, steering);
this.geom.rotate_joint_orig(swheel, 8*steering, {y:1});
if(this.started>0)
this.wheel_force(-1, engine);
brake *= BF;
brake += 500; //rolling friction
this.wheel_brake(-1, brake);
this.animate_wheels();
if(this.started>0) {
var pitch = Math.abs(kmh+3*this.eng)/18.0;
var g = kmh>0 ? Math.floor(pitch) : 0;
var f = pitch - g;
f += 0.5*g;
this.snd.set_pitch(0, 0.75*f + 1.0);
this.snd.set_pitch(1, 0.8*pitch);
//var bc = kmh>10 ? 1.0 : (kmh<0 ? 0 : kmh*0.1);
//this.snd.set_gain(0, 1-bc);
this.snd.set_gain(1, Math.min(1,kmh*0.02));
}
}
(http://i.imgur.com/71drNyJ.jpg)
Post by: KW71 on January 31, 2015, 12:31:56 am
Post by: konaone on January 31, 2015, 04:13:35 am
Damn, even I have error !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nvidia gtx 295 !!! hhhhhhhhhhhhhh elp !!! >:(
Cloud system? Did you update your GPU/OpenGL drivers? I have an NVIDIA 560M, but both the drivers and OpenGL were out of date.
Here is the NVIDIA Driver Downloads page, just specify your GPU and the download includes the most recent OpenGL version.
Regards,
Uriah
Driver GeForce 340.52 the last version......................... >:( :) solution???????
Post by: Uriah on January 31, 2015, 04:19:51 am
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
Did you install this driver update:
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/77224/en-us
Regards,
Uriah
Post by: Levi on January 31, 2015, 04:48:31 am
Also, I hope in the future we'll be able to land aircraft on top of watercraft. On the USS Nimitz's flight deck for example:
(http://i.minus.com/iGfOj4WViHG4U.jpg)
Are there any plans for this feature? Or is it already possible with the current collision support?
Post by: nickshand on January 31, 2015, 04:55:20 am
I've only discovered Outerra this past week and, so far I'm very excited and blown away by it! However, I have an issue with the new update.. TrackIR does not work. Has support for it been removed? The TrackIR dll that was in the previous version is not present in the plugin folder, and when I tried to add it Outerra would not load it. If TrackIR will not work in this version , is it possible to revert to the last version and stop it automatically updating to this newer version of the game?
Thank you to anyone who can help. As I said I'm very new to this and maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I would love to get TrackIR to work as it adds so much more immersion to me ( I don't have Oculus yet!)
Post by: Varldsligist on January 31, 2015, 05:59:17 am
You are too kind! Kudos!
Post by: cameni on January 31, 2015, 08:05:48 am
The problem is that old 2xx Nvidia cards do not support the required fp64 OpenGL extension, which is needed by the cloud renderer. For now try disabling clouds in world.cfg (clouds=false), until we provide a workaround for it
Post by: aWac9 on January 31, 2015, 08:55:18 am
great contribution Uriah509 lights. thx
Note never before had seen the aircraft carrier Levi mod .. where that is?
http://youtu.be/LikJCQCHIlA
Post by: cameni on January 31, 2015, 08:56:21 am
I've only discovered Outerra this past week and, so far I'm very excited and blown away by it! However, I have an issue with the new update.. TrackIR does not work. Has support for it been removed? The TrackIR dll that was in the previous version is not present in the plugin folder, and when I tried to add it Outerra would not load it. If TrackIR will not work in this version , is it possible to revert to the last version and stop it automatically updating to this newer version of the game?
These builds aren't provided by us, but here is a recent one:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwftL40DNEd0bHlFYWt1UERRMjA/view?usp=sharing
Post by: 2eyed on January 31, 2015, 10:17:53 am
Otherwise - great update! Really very much appreciated.
Hopefully, we don't have to wait again four months for the next update. It was a so long time. :D
Post by: cameni on January 31, 2015, 10:58:31 am
- fixed shaders for Nvidia <400 series cards
- fixed location window opening from sandbox
- lights on SM11 (based on Uriah's code, fixed braking lights and key controls)
Post by: Revolver on January 31, 2015, 11:43:58 am
@aWac9
cooles video...wie immer 1a! ;)
Post by: Jagerbomber on January 31, 2015, 12:18:21 pm
Post by: cameni on January 31, 2015, 12:39:35 pm
Post by: Jagerbomber on January 31, 2015, 01:02:12 pm
Post by: tripo on January 31, 2015, 01:08:38 pm
Post by: cldcrst on January 31, 2015, 01:32:55 pm
Post by: cameni on January 31, 2015, 02:34:49 pm
After this update unfortunately terrain is rendered, well, quite weird. Graphic Card is an Ati HD6850, reinstalled Outerra and all Ati drivers already, including a clean driver sweep ... before the last patch everything was fine about terrain rendering. Attached a screenshot how it actually looks like now, any suggestions how to enjoy the world in full beauty again? :(That's not a problem of this update, but of a bug in newer AMD drivers on 5/6 series of GPUs. Last Catalyst that worked ok was 14.4, I think.
Post by: cameni on January 31, 2015, 02:37:21 pm
For me the update won't download. It checks for a new version and continues as if the one I have installed is the latest. Any help would be appreciated.Demo version wasn't updating to newer versions, but it should be now.
Post by: tripo on January 31, 2015, 04:16:53 pm
Post by: HiFlyer on January 31, 2015, 06:10:56 pm
Post by: konaone on January 31, 2015, 07:47:27 pm
(http://i58.tinypic.com/33trslh.png)
Post by: Derelict83 on January 31, 2015, 09:55:29 pm
I love, and I use the word LOVE, how the clouds are lightened from below and are colored in those red and orange hues, like in those rare yet sooooo beautiful real-life sunsets (there is even a word for that in spanish, "candilazo", see this: http://goo.gl/b0e0Z1).
I think this is the first time I see that effect reproduced in real time in any game engine, and to think that it is in this beloved engine, in this beloved world, is just beautiful.
Beautiful, just beautiful. Keep up the good work, guys.
Post by: Atrax on February 01, 2015, 04:00:54 am
Post by: Atrax on February 01, 2015, 04:27:29 am
Thanks for your replies in advance guys!
PS: no wonder I don't have clouds, my outerra isn't updating! It's still at .388 update, or something like that :( How do I rectify that guys, how do I make it update itself? It searches for updates and then just skips it....
Where can I download just the patch and install it manually? Thanks
Edit: Ok, it seems I fixed it now. thanks anyways guys!
Post by: zzz on February 01, 2015, 06:54:09 am
Will Outerra be getting emissive materials? I tried layering transparent and base materials with a giant light inside to light all the windows but it didn't work.
Post by: cameni on February 01, 2015, 07:43:31 am
Emissive textures are in the works, some pipeline changes to make it more efficient in combination with normal materials.
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on February 01, 2015, 09:03:58 am
Post by: konaone on February 01, 2015, 09:51:57 am
loading a ship I get this error
(http://i58.tinypic.com/33trslh.png)
I uninstalled and reinstalled but when a boat load the error is the same
Post by: cameni on February 01, 2015, 11:18:00 am
Is it possible to view clouds in demo version or it is only for purchased version?They are in demo version as well.
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on February 02, 2015, 03:53:04 am
EDIT
Thx guys i got it working. alt+ arrow keys on first post
Post by: konaone on February 02, 2015, 04:46:54 am
Post by: cameni on February 02, 2015, 04:59:03 am
Post by: Acetone on February 02, 2015, 07:37:02 am
Cleaner, nice use of transparency, all the important data is displayed and the new map navigation tool is really great.
A couple of remarks:
- It seems a bit strange that day of year or even time flow multiplier settings are in the camera controls window.
- If you click on "Term of use" in the Map of this menu, the openned window cannot be closed, potentially locking the user.
Post by: HiFlyer on February 02, 2015, 08:59:34 am
I'm not sure if the new Location menu is a test bed for a future Outerra GUI, but I am a big fan of this new layout :)
Cleaner, nice use of transparency, all the important data is displayed and the new map navigation tool is really great.
A couple of remarks:
- It seems a bit strange that day of year or even time flow multiplier settings are in the camera controls window.
- If you click on "Term of use" in the Map of this menu, the openned window cannot be closed, potentially locking the user.
It doesn't totally work for me. Sometimes It takes me to the location I request, but often it simply changes the camera view or does nothing at all.
Post by: pasto on February 02, 2015, 09:17:55 am
I'm not sure if the new Location menu is a test bed for a future Outerra GUI, but I am a big fan of this new layout :)
Cleaner, nice use of transparency, all the important data is displayed and the new map navigation tool is really great.
thank you :). location browser is hopefully, the first one of many new ui components that will be created using the new ui framework. at first we would like to release just a couple of standalone dialogs with some kind of desktop management and later also new object / terrain editing tools. everything takes some time as it is built from scratch not using the old ui components, but we hope that it will make the editing easier.
- It seems a bit strange that day of year or even time flow multiplier settings are in the camera controls window.
as soon as we have the desktop ready we will most probably split these two dialogs into several separate dialogs / panels. f.e. location, daytime, camera settings. currently it was more important for us to test the framework than to make it look perfect. i guess that even in the future we will focus more on functionality than perfection. but the commets are alway welcome!
- If you click on "Term of use" in the Map of this menu, the openned window cannot be closed, potentially locking the user.
this is a known issue, that will be hopefully addressed by the new chromium integration (angrypig). currently it is possible to close the window by pressing ctrl+f4
Post by: 2eyed on February 02, 2015, 09:20:41 am
Post by: Acetone on February 02, 2015, 11:24:32 am
thank you :). location browser is hopefully, the first one of many new ui components that will be created using the new ui framework. at first we would like to release just a couple of standalone dialogs with some kind of desktop management and later also new object / terrain editing tools. everything takes some time as it is built from scratch not using the old ui components, but we hope that it will make the editing easier.
as soon as we have the desktop ready we will most probably split these two dialogs into several separate dialogs / panels. f.e. location, daytime, camera settings. currently it was more important for us to test the framework than to make it look perfect. i guess that even in the future we will focus more on functionality than perfection. but the commets are alway welcome!
Hi pasto,
Thanks for these informations! I'm really looking forward to see the result of your work :)
Post by: Jagerbomber on February 02, 2015, 11:57:13 am
- It seems a bit strange that day of year or even time flow multiplier settings are in the camera controls window.
Yeah... this kinda seemed odd to me.
Post by: pasto on February 02, 2015, 12:12:38 pm
Hi pasto,
Thanks for these informations! I'm really looking forward to see the result of your work :)
hi acetone,
i'm the one responsible for the framework, desktop manager and ui architecture setup (and also the bootswatch css theme mod) right now but the real tools will be mostly up to Jericho. we just cant make him post something on the forum :).
Post by: HiFlyer on February 02, 2015, 12:25:40 pm
It looks like transportation via location menu only works when not in a vehicle or plane. Hit Enter for normal mode.
Interesting. Thanks for the heads-up.
Post by: 2eyed on February 02, 2015, 12:41:14 pm
Beside the SSAO med and high settings (which are heavily viewing angle dependant) the only issue with stereoscopic mode.
Edit: The headlights only show up in one eye and grass is not lit properly until a certain distance from cam to vehicle.
Post by: soulunite on February 02, 2015, 10:40:18 pm
Post by: Acetone on February 03, 2015, 07:23:17 am
(http://i.imgur.com/6wTHLW4.jpg)
Either someone forgot something in the build or the same person took pity after seeing my original material river beds in Talkeetna :))
Post by: Gemini6 on February 03, 2015, 07:57:27 am
Post by: cameni on February 03, 2015, 08:52:22 am
Either someone forgot something in the build or the same person took pity after seeing my original material river beds in Talkeetna :))I just did an experiment there some time ago, almost forgot :)
The old road system is not entirely suitable for it, but in principle it works. Except for tile edge detection, I see.
Post by: soulunite on February 03, 2015, 02:00:58 pm
Post by: cameni on February 03, 2015, 04:06:08 pm
- spot lights now also light up the reflector, making the lights visible better
- full lights on SM11 bus and T817 truck
- vehicle turn signals - manual (shift+A/D for left right, shift+W emergency, shift+S all off)
- light_mask and light_toggle_mask methods to manipulate multiple lights at once
- fixed glow rendering in stereo
- fixed deformed reflections on objects
- vertical mouse working in TPS with Oculus, aiming working with Oculus
- fixed location manager to exit vehicle when changing location
- fix for Nv 2xx water path shader compilation error
- lights removed when aircraft is deleted
- fixed crash if maximum number of mesh isntances is reached
Post by: aWac9 on February 03, 2015, 04:42:36 pm
thank you very much
Post by: josem75 on February 03, 2015, 05:41:31 pm
The clouds looks incredible for being the first alfa version!! I cant think how they will be in the future, with more resolution and more than 100 Km. They will blow minds..
The lights are great too.
By the way about lights. Would be posible to make long shots lights?
The cars actually have like a short light real cars have. Would be posible Increase the power and distance to cover, like the long lights car? So we can drive fast at nights :) and also make those lights more visible since long distances.
Post by: bomber on February 03, 2015, 06:07:00 pm
(http://airminded.org/wp-content/img/scenery/bremerton-1942.jpg)
Post by: cameni on February 04, 2015, 03:22:22 am
By the way about lights. Would be posible to make long shots lights?
The cars actually have like a short light real cars have. Would be posible Increase the power and distance to cover, like the long lights car? So we can drive fast at nights :) and also make those lights more visible since long distances.
You'd just simply make ones with narrower angle and higher intensity; the range is computed automatically from that.
Post by: 2eyed on February 04, 2015, 04:45:13 am
Post by: HiFlyer on February 04, 2015, 07:34:07 am
I found, trees don't get lighted up by headlights.
Nope. The lights also cast no shadows. I still like them! ;)
Post by: 2eyed on February 04, 2015, 11:06:32 am
I found, trees don't get lighted up by headlights.
Nope. The lights also cast no shadows. I still like them! ;)
Shadow casting would probably be quite expensive (performance wise).
Lit trees should not.
Post by: 2eyed on February 04, 2015, 01:11:52 pm
Same for "save Location": only a .jpg file is saved.
Post by: cameni on February 04, 2015, 03:40:20 pm
But locations are always saved as jpg files, the GPS info is stored in Exif tags.
Post by: 2eyed on February 04, 2015, 04:08:35 pm
Something broke there.
But locations are always saved as jpg files, the GPS info is stored in Exif tags.
I thought these location saves are .cam files in \outerra\campos\earth, which btw are openable with double click in current Version.
Post by: josem75 on February 04, 2015, 05:43:38 pm
By the way about lights. Would be posible to make long shots lights?
The cars actually have like a short light real cars have. Would be posible Increase the power and distance to cover, like the long lights car? So we can drive fast at nights :) and also make those lights more visible since long distances.
You'd just simply make ones with narrower angle and higher intensity; the range is computed automatically from that.
Nice to hear! Thanks.
Now my problem is that i dont know what to change exactly xD. I was seeing your first post talking about parameters, and i saw the parameters on sm11.js . I was touching all the numbers, i got bigger lights and some more but not more powered or wide angle, etc.
Anybody knows which numbers are for what exactly? If can put in black or so, which is the angle for make more wide, the power, etc.
thank you very much
Code: [Select]
//head lights
this.add_spotlight_source({x:-1.04,y:7.76,z:0.85}, {y:1}, 0.2, 54, 0.08, {x:.5,y:.2,z:.2}, 0.2);
this.add_spotlight_source({x:1.04,y:7.76,z:0.85}, {y:1}, 0.2, 54, 0.08, {x:.5,y:.2,z:.2}, 0.2);
this.add_spotlight_source({x:-0.8,y:7.77,z:0.85}, {y:1}, 0.2, 54, 0.08, {x:.5,y:.2,z:.2}, 0.2);
this.add_spotlight_source({x:0.8,y:7.77,z:0.85}, {y:1}, 0.2, 54, 0.08, {x:.5,y:.2,z:.2}, 0.2);
//tail lights
this.add_pointlight_source({x:1.04,y:-3.2,z:0.85}, 1.0, {x:0.1,y:0.0,z:0.0}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:-1.04,y:-3.2,z:0.85}, 1.0, {x:0.1,y:0.0,z:0.0}, 0.4);
//brake lights
this.add_pointlight_source({x:-0.8,y:-3.18,z:0.85}, 1.0, {x:0.1,y:0.0,z:0.0}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0.8,y:-3.18,z:0.85}, 1.0, {x:0.1,y:0.0,z:0.0}, 0.4);
//cabin lights
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:5.9,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:3.9,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:1.9,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:-0.1,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
this.add_pointlight_source({x:0,y:-2.1,z:2.6}, 1.0, {x:1,y:0.8,z:0.4}, 0.4);
case ALight: {
if(1==1){
this.light_toggle(0);
this.light_toggle(1);
this.light_toggle(2);
this.light_toggle(3);
this.light_toggle(4);
this.light_toggle(5);
this.light_toggle(6);
this.light_toggle(7);
this.light_toggle(8);
this.light_toggle(9);
this.light_toggle(10);
this.light_toggle(11);
}
[/quote]
Post by: DenisJ on February 04, 2015, 08:49:54 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/bXorT1O.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RbFETm6.jpg)
Post by: HiFlyer on February 04, 2015, 09:14:01 pm
Probably you are already aware of it, but here are some glitches when going underwater. I wasn't quite sure if I should report it here or create a new thread in terrain issues board.
Speaking of Underwater, I've recently visited the Marianas trench, and as soon as there is something submersible with some mega-bright lights, I'm going down there to take a look.......
Seaquest Dsv! :) :facepalm:
Post by: cameni on February 05, 2015, 01:34:08 am
Now my problem is that i dont know what to change exactly xD. I was seeing your first post talking about parameters, and i saw the parameters on sm11.js . I was touching all the numbers, i got bigger lights and some more but not more powered or wide angle, etc.The parameters are documented in the wiki (http://xtrac.outerraworld.com/wiki/vehicle). Intensity is part of the color.
Post by: bomber on February 05, 2015, 06:04:04 am
Probably you are already aware of it, but here are some glitches when going underwater. I wasn't quite sure if I should report it here or create a new thread in terrain issues board.
Speaking of Underwater, I've recently visited the Marianas trench, and as soon as there is something submersible with some mega-bright lights, I'm going down there to take a look.......
Seaquest Dsv! :) :facepalm:
Put some brights lights on the space ship I did for zzz, it'll take you to the bottom of the trench.... I've been.
Post by: josem75 on February 05, 2015, 07:37:31 am
Now my problem is that i dont know what to change exactly xD. I was seeing your first post talking about parameters, and i saw the parameters on sm11.js . I was touching all the numbers, i got bigger lights and some more but not more powered or wide angle, etc.The parameters are documented in the wiki (http://xtrac.outerraworld.com/wiki/vehicle). Intensity is part of the color.
Great, thanks. i saw wiki last days and the info was not there, but now i can see it.
Now those are long shots lights!! Yeah
Ops.. Dont put attention in my snow trees xD. I am making a colection turning some trees covered in diferent levels of snow. Those are the most covered as u can see ))
(http://i.imgur.com/dr3w8VJ.jpg)
Post by: PytonPago on February 06, 2015, 02:28:26 am
(http://t2.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/02/o_466348682_99106d29f90b4645a3921dedb27565e5.jpg?t=&h=7EU1KPG32UEnvEWGd-UIBA&e=2145916800&d=o_466348682_99106d29f90b4645a3921dedb27565e5.jpg)
(http://t2.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/01/o_466348681_77815fdc481bf0a4a1dd322d384707b9.jpg?t=&h=ZfarF1kL5FT-hyeZy04k8A&e=2145916800&d=o_466348681_77815fdc481bf0a4a1dd322d384707b9.jpg)
Some of the lights work no problem, other are cowered by these black right-angles ... Also seems to be problem only when more of them are on the vehicle. (the bus and tatra seems to not do this)
Log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ZscF0ox2AGRks5VmhzWG93dnM/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ZscF0ox2AGRks5VmhzWG93dnM/view?usp=sharing)
Post by: Uriah on February 06, 2015, 02:45:46 am
Not sure why ... played with lights and this just happened and stays :
Some of the lights work no problem, other are cowered by these black right-angles ... Also seems to be problem only when more of them are on the vehicle. (the bus and tatra seems to not do this)
Log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ZscF0ox2AGRks5VmhzWG93dnM/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ZscF0ox2AGRks5VmhzWG93dnM/view?usp=sharing)
Delete the parameter in-between the position float3 and color/intensity float3, like so: (EDITED)
this.add_pointlight_source({x:-0.27,y:5.47,z:2.56}, 0.1, {x:0.585,y:.08,z:0.012}, 1.0); //Light 3
this.add_pointlight_source({x:-0.27,y:5.47,z:2.56}, {x:0.585,y:.08,z:0.012}, 1.0); //Light 3
Regards,
Uriah
Post by: PytonPago on February 06, 2015, 05:08:43 am
Post by: Ozybolairy on February 07, 2015, 10:59:18 am
Post by: Acetone on February 07, 2015, 12:00:51 pm
I think this has been mentioned before, but any news on a fix for the purple ground?
You need to use an older version of Catalyst drivers (http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-catalyst-14-4-whql-%2814-100-april-17%29-download.html).
Quote from: Cameni
That's not a problem of this update, but of a bug in newer AMD drivers on 5/6 series of GPUs. Last Catalyst that worked ok was 14.4, I think.
Post by: PRiME on February 08, 2015, 05:23:52 am
Post by: eternalny1 on February 08, 2015, 08:50:28 pm
These clouds and lights are fantastic, even in this early stage.
As a very long-time flight sim enthusiast, I'm finally getting really excited again!
Post by: LeeP on February 09, 2015, 12:51:19 am
Fatal error I have no Idea?
C:/Program Files
(x86)/Outerra/Antworld/packages/outerra/ah64/ah64.objdef:8 :
:objdef - member variable: tags not defined
"tags" : "helicopter" ,
^
the game will not start it just shows this.
Post by: cameni on February 09, 2015, 01:29:16 am
Post by: LeeP on February 09, 2015, 01:59:48 am
I have Norton but its never had issues before.
but any way thanks a lot !!
Post by: LeeP on February 09, 2015, 02:52:42 am
To get them to change to the correct shade of color,
that's got to be challenging! Very Nice!
Post by: Foxiol on February 15, 2015, 06:52:09 pm
They look quite nice, wow it all feels more alive. I love the movement, variety and the randomness of the clouds.
Great job! Just wow. ;)
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on February 15, 2015, 11:00:44 pm
Post by: PRiME on February 15, 2015, 11:03:09 pm
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on February 15, 2015, 11:07:53 pm
Is this purple color a specific bug to OLD AMD cards? because I never experienced it with 290x cards.
Yes it is with old AMD cards. 6 and 5 series i think.
Post by: PRiME on February 16, 2015, 03:42:32 am
Post by: cameni on February 16, 2015, 06:43:58 am
- workaround for purple terrain driver bug on old ati cards and newer catalyst drivers
- updated MiG - lights, simple engine glow, additional skins (CZ, RU) - many thanks to Uriah for providing these
- added open "location from image" into F2 location dialog, to load GPS info from photos
- fixed spotlight orientation vector (was unable to point in Z direction)
- fixed crash on v (change seat) key
- missing texture mipmaps replaced with pink textures + warning
- fixed perf problem in F2 advanced options
This version checks if textures from loaded model contain all mipmaps, and if not, it fills in the missing levels with some debug color (pink) or some default normal values. If you see something that changes material properties in constant distance from the camera, that's likely the result.
Missing mipmaps are a performance problem, so we decided to provide a visual warning.
Post by: PytonPago on February 16, 2015, 10:57:55 am
Version 0.8.4.5233
- workaround for purple terrain driver bug on old ati cards and newer catalyst drivers
- updated MiG - lights, simple engine glow, additional skins (CZ, RU) - many thanks to Uriah for providing these
- added open "location from image" into F2 location dialog, to load GPS info from photos
- fixed spotlight orientation vector (was unable to point in Z direction)
- fixed crash on v (change seat) key
- missing texture mipmaps replaced with pink textures + warning
- fixed perf problem in F2 advanced options
This version checks if textures from loaded model contain all mipmaps, and if not, it fills in the missing levels with some debug color (pink) or some default normal values. If you see something that changes material properties in constant distance from the camera, that's likely the result.
Missing mipmaps are a performance problem, so we decided to provide a visual warning.
So, exporting textures whyte mipmaps from gimp is now a necessity ... kinda interesting how different stuff changes them at different distances on the model :
(http://t4.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/07/o_466635223_4e10ebd6ef978a6082d49b6977862f75.jpg?t=&h=F8EX7gEdjaF0E9o30LoUwA&e=2145916800&d=o_466635223_4e10ebd6ef978a6082d49b6977862f75.jpg)
(http://t2.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/04/o_466635228_1fac6a653547b6433b6d6ed45f3e9aae.jpg?t=&h=1IuzzBmpruWBL3mcL_LYHw&e=2145916800&d=o_466635228_1fac6a653547b6433b6d6ed45f3e9aae.jpg)
(http://t4.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/07/o_466635231_52fcffe85a049dc84c469de8340defc9.jpg?t=&h=Fz2zse6iJHuq1NAKP8OfIA&e=2145916800&d=o_466635231_52fcffe85a049dc84c469de8340defc9.jpg)
(http://t2.aimg.sk/pokec/fotoalbumy/00/o_466635232_99ac913a737490d04fdba35c1bf326bd.jpg?t=&h=PfIMTyln9H7mwKEEOnXusQ&e=2145916800&d=o_466635232_99ac913a737490d04fdba35c1bf326bd.jpg)
Post by: Juli Stony on February 16, 2015, 11:46:32 am
After again restart and all repeats. It also shows me still Version 0.8.4.5197 as current version.
I use AMD Catalyst Manager 14.4 and had no problems before..
If more details needed, just wirte me - hope, to find a solution soon.
Post by: cameni on February 16, 2015, 12:12:26 pm
Some overprotective antivirus programs will lock it and remove before it can be launched.
Also, if you have a high UAC protection level that prevents programs from making changes, updater can't install the update by itself and will fail. In that case run the update manually.
Post by: aWac9 on February 16, 2015, 12:25:02 pm
http://youtu.be/uy1yNfJw-CQ
is a joke .. :)
Outerra....how I solve this problem?
Post by: Juli Stony on February 16, 2015, 12:36:05 pm
Post by: PytonPago on February 16, 2015, 12:41:36 pm
Post by: 2eyed on February 16, 2015, 12:44:08 pm
Could we perhaps get the same for the c172? Would be great!
Post by: cameni on February 16, 2015, 12:48:07 pm
Well, pink isn't exactly my favourite color :DPink color was chosen exactly for that "property" :D
As an alert to the problem of missing mipmaps in model textures.
aWac ... take all the textures - open in Gimp (with the DDS export addon) and export it with the "create mipmaps" options ... Doe, you have to do it for all, piece by piece.Hm, an auto-patch probably wouldn't be hard to do. Nvcompress.exe is already included and it can generate mipmaps too.
Post by: PytonPago on February 16, 2015, 01:27:48 pm
Hm, an auto-patch probably wouldn't be hard to do. Nvcompress.exe is already included and it can generate mipmaps too.
... will it be able to see, if some textures already have them ? ...
Post by: cameni on February 16, 2015, 02:16:49 pm
But it also needs to know if it's color/normal.
Post by: josem75 on February 16, 2015, 02:48:43 pm
aWac ... take all the textures - open in Gimp (with the DDS export addon) and export it with the "create mipmaps" options ... Doe, you have to do it for all, piece by piece.
Hmm, or...
You can use dds converter 1.4, or dds converter 2.1
I usually use 1.4 coz have the 'power of two' option (can destroy ur aspect ratio image, but if u are in a hurry, or have square textures is great)...
Dds converter 2.1 dont have it, but have the posibility of convert dds to another too. So in this case, convert all the dds in png (so can keep the alfa if necesary), and then convert all the png back into dds with mipmaps activated should do the trick.
Just divide between dds type, for example dxt1, dxt5, or ati1 in diferent folders.
Post by: M7 on February 16, 2015, 03:40:52 pm
Hm, an auto-patch probably wouldn't be hard to do. Nvcompress.exe is already included and it can generate mipmaps too.
... will it be able to see, if some textures already have them ? ...
Made a quick test . I draged and drop dds with and without mipmap through nv compress. It didnt change anything to the ones that already had mipmap and it did add mipmap to the ones that didn't have them.
Post by: cameni on February 16, 2015, 04:17:23 pm
Made a quick test . I draged and drop dds with and without mipmap through nv compress. It didnt change anything to the ones that already had mipmap and it did add mipmap to the ones that didn't have them.
Yes but when you do not specify a type, it will default to DXT1, so it will convert your possibly other DXT formats to it.
But here, an experimental version that preserves the format when none is specified: nvcompress.exe (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2spgr2B2dvNRDFGUmcxTnV5a2s/view?usp=sharing)
Post by: M7 on February 16, 2015, 04:52:03 pm
Post by: zzz on February 16, 2015, 07:17:21 pm
Spotlights with z:1 orientation show up as black squares for me.
Post by: Jonathan on February 16, 2015, 09:44:39 pm
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on February 16, 2015, 10:40:26 pm
Post by: ZeosPantera on February 17, 2015, 03:20:35 am
Sheeeeet.
Post by: Acetone on February 17, 2015, 04:57:45 am
Acetone. What are your graphics settings in Outerra in the Talkeetna scenery on your Youtube channel? The grass and environment looks so much more realistic on your machine than it does mine. If it is a Scenery download, where can I find it?
Not sure about the grass, but I tweaked a bit the athmo settings (reducing scattering and changing some other stuff). The sceney thread is here (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=2855.0) but you should wait for the next update to test it, many models are broken ATM :(
Post by: aWac9 on February 17, 2015, 05:27:41 am
Post by: Levi on February 17, 2015, 06:15:15 am
It may sound weird, but that bug was actually a very nice feature for me.
- fixed spotlight orientation vector (was unable to point in Z direction)
When I was using the Z direction, the meshes were illuminated only by the diameter of the light source, and the reflector wasn't visible neither. This was great for the cockpit lights, mainly because the lights were not reaching the ground.
Edit: Here's a screenshot taken in the previous version, where you can see the cockpit illuminated, but the ground is not:
(http://i.minus.com/iJO9Dm69nNBji.jpg)
Now it's great you fixed the Z direction, but would be nice to have something similar to that bug, or even better, having some kind of filter to tell the light source to only illuminate certain surfaces/meshes/materials, or just to not illuminate the terrain.
Also, there's a method in geometry object interface(geomob) called set_scale, where you can set the scale of the entire object. But is there a way to only scale a sub-object/joint?
Post by: konaone on February 18, 2015, 12:10:25 pm
what (minchia :)))happens
Post by: zzz on February 18, 2015, 12:59:37 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/HI60ZyL.jpg)
Post by: cameni on February 18, 2015, 01:38:09 pm
Post by: zzz on February 18, 2015, 02:07:26 pm
v9.18.13.4709
Post by: cameni on February 18, 2015, 02:17:34 pm
Post by: zzz on February 18, 2015, 02:47:20 pm
Only affects lit models. Whole thing seems to be 1 big black square.
(http://i.imgur.com/k6z5QAr.jpg)
Post by: zzz on February 18, 2015, 03:45:44 pm
Post by: cameni on February 18, 2015, 03:55:00 pm
Post by: thibdumont on February 18, 2015, 04:34:41 pm
Post by: HiFlyer on February 18, 2015, 09:31:38 pm
Your fix for purple ground on old AMD GPU did work on my HD5850, THANK YOU !
I missed that fact that there had been a new update. Went into Outerra and immediately noticed a difference, but couldn't figure out what it was, or if I was just imagining things.
Took a half hour before I came to check the update thread and saw that there actually had been a new one affecting the bloom.
Nice Update!
Post by: cameni on February 19, 2015, 11:48:58 am
It may sound weird, but that bug was actually a very nice feature for me.We are making some space in the data so that there can be also a distance limit on the light range, so this will be possible this way.
When I was using the Z direction, the meshes were illuminated only by the diameter of the light source, and the reflector wasn't visible neither. This was great for the cockpit lights, mainly because the lights were not reaching the ground.
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Also, there's a method in geometry object interface(geomob) called set_scale, where you can set the scale of the entire object. But is there a way to only scale a sub-object/joint?No, it's problematic because of how it affects some precomputed things in the hierarchy, and it would complicate the pipeline.
Post by: 2eyed on February 19, 2015, 01:41:11 pm
And the Rift is working again!
Post by: fsxthai on February 19, 2015, 04:21:03 pm
Post by: KW71 on February 19, 2015, 04:28:10 pm
Hello, I can not update to the latest patch. When I start outerra it downloads the patch, restarts, and downloads it again. Rinse and repeat. I am currently on 0.8.4.5197.
Page 8 in this thread.
Post by: fsxthai on February 19, 2015, 07:18:58 pm
Disabling antivirus made no difference, and trying to start the update manually results in this: http://i.imgur.com/DzYrCRZ.jpg
:(
Post by: KW71 on February 19, 2015, 09:18:09 pm
Post by: cameni on February 20, 2015, 01:15:47 am
Wow, I read it through, can't believe I missed that post! However, it has not helped.Might be an old outerra.exe in memory, or you do not have administrator rights (needed for installing into program files). The patcher should automatically ask for admin privileges though ...
Disabling antivirus made no difference, and trying to start the update manually results in this: http://i.imgur.com/DzYrCRZ.jpg
Post by: fsxthai on February 20, 2015, 03:49:58 am
Post by: Levi on February 20, 2015, 03:57:25 am
We are making some space in the data so that there can be also a distance limit on the light range, so this will be possible this way.That's great for interior/cockpit lights, but there still being a problem. Let's take as an example the landing lights on an aircraft. When those lights are behind the cockpit, you have to limit the source diameter, otherwise the lights will illuminate the cockpit. Will be there a way to avoid that, maybe by casting dynamic shadows from the spotlights?
Ah by the way, I've found a way to illuminate the cockpit without casting any light on the ground, and it's working very very nice. :) Some screens here (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3140.msg34260#msg34260).
The spotlights are set up like this:
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this.add_spotlight_source({x: 0.000,y:4.250,z:1.250}, {z:1}, 50, 179.5, 1, {x:0.025,y:0.1,z:0.00}, 0.1); //Main light
this.add_spotlight_source({x: 0.221,y:4.743,z:0.899}, {z:1}, 5, 179.9, 1, {x:30.00, y:10,z:0.00}, 0.1); //Gauge Light#0
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No, it's problematic because of how it affects some precomputed things in the hierarchy, and it would complicate the pipeline.Oh, alright. No need for complications then.
Post by: Chinate on February 20, 2015, 05:49:01 am
Post by: Acetone on February 20, 2015, 06:26:47 am
I have a very serious problem...i entered Outerra and it was downloading 5197---5233, when it finished downloading, it automaticaly restarted. After it restarted, the version was still 5197 and it was downloading 5233 again...i believe it is a bug...
A few pages back :)
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Seems it can't launch the downloaded update. Check if the update is in your home directory, normally in c:\users\name\outerra\update
Some overprotective antivirus programs will lock it and remove before it can be launched.
Also, if you have a high UAC protection level that prevents programs from making changes, updater can't install the update by itself and will fail. In that case run the update manually.
Post by: cameni on February 20, 2015, 06:32:32 am
Also, can you check what your update.log says (win-R and \\%userprofile%\outerra)
Post by: SpaceFlight on February 20, 2015, 07:19:59 am
just wanted to pop in saying that Outerra seems to be kinda sloooww in development, almost dead :(
I don't mean this in a hostile way, don't know, just hope a cool game waits at the end.
Best,
SF
Post by: Chinate on February 20, 2015, 07:28:15 am
从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk
Post by: cameni on February 20, 2015, 07:40:13 am
Also, when you run the patch, does Windows ask you for a permission? Does running the patch as administrator (right click Run as Administrator) change anything?
Post by: Chinate on February 20, 2015, 07:44:03 am
Thank you very much......There are other "outerra" runningproblem is solved and thx...从我的 iPhone 发送，使用 Tapatalk
Post by: fsxthai on February 20, 2015, 08:46:11 am
Post by: zzz on February 20, 2015, 01:53:07 pm
Ok, we'll check what happens there.
Has there been any movement on this? I was hoping to do a lighting showcase for this weekend.
Post by: cameni on February 20, 2015, 03:47:21 pm
Post by: krcm1981 on February 21, 2015, 02:19:37 pm
Fatal Error
exception msg: OpenGL error: shader compilation failed: stars
last RL:eng::draw_frame_internal@eng\eng.cpp(802)
ps, I have tried numerous things recommended throughout this thread but no luck yet. Ok did a complete wipe of outerra from my system, re downloaded outerra from website, reinstalled, it started up, I signed into my account(already purchased full version), it downloaded the updates, but when I start it it still goes screen black and the same error prevents me from playing
Graphics Chipset AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
Driver Packaging Version 14.501.1003-141120a-178000C
Catalyst Version 14.12 AMD Catalyst Omega Software
Provider Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.1443
2D Driver File Path
Direct3D Version 9.14.10.01080
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.13283
Mantle Driver Version 9.1.10.0045
Mantle API Version 98304
AMD Catalyst Control Center Version 2014.1120.2123.38423
AMD Audio Driver Version 9.0.0.9905
Post by: cameni on February 21, 2015, 03:22:54 pm
Post by: KW71 on February 22, 2015, 01:58:39 am
I have two issues:
1.- When I fly straight ahead everything looks right, but if I turn around, let's say 90º + , all the terrain detail is gone and takes more than 1.5 seconds to load completely (Terrain quality metrics: 1080 p; Max texture resolution: medium. These are the settings I been using since installed OT, and have worked fine).
2.- I tried to record a video to show the first problem, but .y4m files are 0 kb.
Can't say for shure when this problems started, because I haven't used OT (for playing) for awhile, till tonight.
Post by: cameni on February 22, 2015, 02:27:14 am
Post by: KW71 on February 22, 2015, 10:46:46 am
-Screen res: 1080p, 60hz.
-Terrain res: 600
The problem is still there.
-Screen res: 720p, 60hz.
-Terrain res: 1080
No problem at all.
I still can't record videos after the reinstall (and changed the HD target).
- *.y4m are 0 kb
- *.wav have a logic size, but are corrupted
so the converter starts and stops.
-i7 860
-Samsung SSD 840EVO
-16 Gb ram, 1600
-GTX 780
Post by: cameni on February 22, 2015, 11:22:49 am
No idea why you can't capture videos, please post your eng.log file.
Post by: KW71 on February 22, 2015, 11:30:10 am
Moving to Video Recording thread.
EDIT:
The terrain problem I mentioned is also FOV related. I had 60º; when i returned to 85º+ the problem decreased.
Post by: cameni on February 23, 2015, 03:34:42 am
Post by: krcm1981 on February 24, 2015, 02:33:20 pm
Post by: PRiME on February 26, 2015, 07:12:48 am
This would help ALLOT for us modelers/scripters who are constantly learning things by feel. Having to reload Outerra after the slightest adjustment of package files is quite annoying. Setting this directory as 'ALWAYS refresh/reload data' would make things ALLOT easier!
Post by: bomber on February 26, 2015, 07:29:25 am
Edit.... What am I saying. I do all my testing on flightgear as its easier to access the jsbsim property tree.
Post by: Levi on February 26, 2015, 07:40:24 am
I've recently discovered that the FDM on aircraft can be reloaded as well without restarting the engine, by simply respawning the aircraft. Still not very practical, but I guess it's better than restarting Outerra.
Atm, the materials are the biggest pain for me, lots of restarts 'till I'm happy with the results...
Post by: PRiME on February 26, 2015, 07:42:15 am
Post by: cameni on February 26, 2015, 08:42:50 am
Post by: Levi on February 26, 2015, 08:59:07 am
Post by: zzz on February 26, 2015, 09:30:02 am
Angrypig's working on support for package reloading right now. Instances only refer to package assets and their own instance data, it's not that package is cached and copied to each instance, so we need to reload whole packages or their modified assets. There's some problem with that at the moment, but we need to resolve it so that a material editor can be made in-game.
Is that why spawning the same model more than once causes them to share the same variables? i.e. when I spawn 2 identical cars and use an action button to do something like lower a window the other car's window gets lowered by the same amount
Post by: cameni on February 26, 2015, 10:45:23 am
Post by: zzz on February 26, 2015, 11:13:36 am
Post by: konaone on February 27, 2015, 10:43:26 am
Post by: PytonPago on February 27, 2015, 10:48:51 am
Mmmm ... .. sorry, but I still see some objects (Python Pago ural) with colors pink and purple textures ......
I havent updated the model whyte mipmap textures ... ill do it during the weekend ...
Post by: konaone on February 27, 2015, 11:38:35 am
Post by: zzz on March 07, 2015, 07:58:48 pm
Post by: cameni on March 09, 2015, 04:12:52 am
Post by: Acetone on March 09, 2015, 01:18:10 pm
It's a bit strange to have a single line of grass in the middle of a this :)
Post by: cameni on March 26, 2015, 02:07:33 pm
- ufo panning mode (shift-home toggle)
- fixed video capture with swap_interval 1
- fixed FBX normals import
- fixed bone_id in add_spot_light and add_point_light plane and vehicle
- pink mipmaps mode enabled with debug_keys only
- fixed "dirt" building leveling
- light_xxx_mask added optional mask offset to cope with limited mask range, fixed aircraft lights on reload
- adjusted spotlight reflector lighting
- added add_spot_light/add_point_light with light_params arg, optional intensity, range or both
- fixed blackness with high light intensity (there's still some limit though)
- added aircraft/vehicle set_pitch_roll
- new input system doesn't work there yet, but iomap configs have been moved to a separate directory
- fix for joystick pots that do not have neutral value at 0, only 4 pot positions can be assigned for now
- geom::set_mesh_visible can hide multiple meshes with trailing @ or *
- fixed sky in environment map
- added pitch and roll to aircraft scenario window
- adjusted rock coloring
- updated SM11 lights, adjusted T817 cabin light to not light the terrain
- enhanced CPU side object rendering perf
- fixed crash in aircraft with missing JSBSim propulsion
- fixed transparency vs clouds
Spotlight reflector lighting was adjusted so that the reflectors are better visible; previously you had a light that strongly illuminated ground but the reflector itself shone only weakly. Some vehicles will have to be adjusted.
add_spot_light/add_point_light - see t817.js for an example; you can specify intensity or range or both. If you specify just the range or just the intensity, the other value is computed automatically. If you specify both, you'll get unrealistic lighting that can nevertheless be useful when you want to have a higher intensity but a limited range.
Post by: DenisJ on March 26, 2015, 03:07:50 pm
If I understand correctly, this update brings ability to turn off pink coloring of old models, right?
Post by: cameni on March 26, 2015, 03:19:19 pm
Post by: josem75 on March 26, 2015, 03:44:33 pm
What did you change exactly, only color made that big improve?
Its like colour is better adjusted, and not generating complex and crazy patterns. Also rocks now are not all the same color, like in one big piece, have little variations, like composed with many little rocks. So this make much more natural rocks.
I am reseeing again.. And i am totally sure.. I am seeing Everest. Before was a mountain really looking ugly.. Now looks like a real mountain!!
Post by: cameni on March 26, 2015, 04:03:36 pm
Post by: josem75 on March 26, 2015, 04:12:16 pm
The main change is that rocks are now taking color from the biome color map when there's little vegetation, otherwise they tend to be a lighter grayish color when there's more greenery around. Color and vegetation maps aren't perfectly matching, sometimes the color map is green in places but the vegetation map asserts that nothing is growing there. Because of that the formula for getting the rock color is a bit of heuristic magic :)
So.. Anybody remember Everest looking like that?? That good?? What i remember was a mess..
(http://i59.tinypic.com/1zwl0z7.jpg)
Post by: josem75 on March 26, 2015, 04:26:04 pm
I always had the thinking, the textures and colors in mountains was not matching perfect with the mesh, and sometimes it was something messy. Not natural
You know what they only need now? A new snow layer, or ice layer, that can get in action in some heigh you can configure, in adition with the normal snow we have now. This ice layer can have the ability of keep in the rocks in almost 90º angles. And being ice in high altitude, can be a bit diferent from the snow, more blue, etc.
Then we would have the himalayas almost like real.
I have a list of ideas that i want to post soon. So i will add this idea too )))
Post by: KW71 on March 26, 2015, 04:56:08 pm
Are there controls with POVs based on potentiometers, just as the analog sticks, and thus give a wide range of values? Mine has just four push buttons.
Post by: 2eyed on March 26, 2015, 04:57:53 pm
Post by: cameni on March 26, 2015, 05:06:40 pm
For me, it looks like not only rock colors have changed but also rock shape. No more or less bulged and overhanging rocks.Ouch, I forgot to remove a debug value that disabled the rock displacement.
Post by: HiFlyer on March 26, 2015, 05:07:06 pm
POV still not working for me.
Are there controls with POVs based on potentiometers, just as the analog sticks, and thus give a wide range of values? Mine has just four push buttons.
Waaaaayyyyyyy out in the middle of knowhere, Outerra informs me that Angrypig barn2 does not exist. Where you keeping Angrypig in a barn? :o
Post by: KW71 on March 26, 2015, 05:15:43 pm
POV still not working for me.
Are there controls with POVs based on potentiometers, just as the analog sticks, and thus give a wide range of values? Mine has just four push buttons.
Waaaaayyyyyyy out in the middle of knowhere, Outerra informs me that Angrypig barn2 does not exist. Where you keeping Angrypig in a barn? :o
???
What?
Post by: PytonPago on March 26, 2015, 05:16:38 pm
POV still not working for me.
Are there controls with POVs based on potentiometers, just as the analog sticks, and thus give a wide range of values? Mine has just four push buttons.
Waaaaayyyyyyy out in the middle of knowhere, Outerra informs me that Angrypig barn2 does not exist. Where you keeping Angrypig in a barn? :o
... and we want the coordinates of the B.A.R.N. I system placement ... =D
Post by: HiFlyer on March 26, 2015, 05:24:40 pm
POV still not working for me.
Are there controls with POVs based on potentiometers, just as the analog sticks, and thus give a wide range of values? Mine has just four push buttons.
Waaaaayyyyyyy out in the middle of knowhere, Outerra informs me that Angrypig barn2 does not exist. Were you keeping Angrypig in a barn? :o
???
What?
May be a bug. When in pause mode, wsda movement keys work correctly. Unpaused, I get a message about Angrypigs barn.
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/screen_1427405211_zps4fg90shr.jpg)
Post by: josem75 on March 26, 2015, 05:27:45 pm
For me, it looks like not only rock colors have changed but also rock shape. No more or less bulged and overhanging rocks.Ouch, I forgot to remove a debug value that disabled the rock displacement.
Those mountains are looking soooo natural.. For me they are lovely! I dont know if would be good if u touch more displacements now, when it seems u found the G point of the mountains xDD
(http://i59.tinypic.com/xd8swj.jpg)
Post by: KW71 on March 26, 2015, 05:38:36 pm
Oh, I see... :)
Not such bug on my side.
"Those mountains are looking soooo natural.. For me they are lovely! I dont know if would be good if u touch more displacements now, when it seems u found the G point of the mountains xDD"
That looks great!!! Any comparison screenshot?
Post by: HiFlyer on March 26, 2015, 05:45:12 pm
@KW71 try near the default airport Area!
Also getting some weird reflections in the Cessna.
Post by: aWac9 on March 26, 2015, 05:54:07 pm
Post by: Acetone on March 26, 2015, 06:16:34 pm
Error: Object "angrypig/barn2/barn2" doesn't exist!! =D
@KW71 try near the default airport Area!
Also getting some weird reflections in the Cessna.
This thing is generally mapped on one of the debug keys (I used to get this error too).
Post by: josem75 on March 26, 2015, 06:32:12 pm
And i am using a modest 2 in exposure. When before sometimes for see the car inside i needed to choose 3 or 4, or go to "catch" some snow with alt-f8 .. So all faces not affecting by the sun directly was much more clear..
This is one of the problems in ilumination.. Also, another aspect was when the night was coming. So the ground was too dark. Now it seems is also ok..
I also dont know if now the glow is not so big. Or if i changed something in the config..
One problem remaining in light aspect, is when the sun go totally. Then the ground is totally black. Should not be black like that.
Post by: josem75 on March 26, 2015, 06:53:24 pm
For be honest, now i cant push alt. I though was broke in my keyboard, but the problem is only in outerra. Dont know if its a Bug. Sometmes i cant co forward in ufo mode when the angripig error appear.
(http://i57.tinypic.com/e0qyag.jpg)
Post by: HiFlyer on March 26, 2015, 07:00:12 pm
Post by: soulunite on March 26, 2015, 08:32:51 pm
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on March 26, 2015, 11:51:10 pm
First i thought you put a real image to compare but this is OT just incredible.For me, it looks like not only rock colors have changed but also rock shape. No more or less bulged and overhanging rocks.Ouch, I forgot to remove a debug value that disabled the rock displacement.
Those mountains are looking soooo natural.. For me they are lovely! I dont know if would be good if u touch more displacements now, when it seems u found the G point of the mountains xDD
(http://i59.tinypic.com/xd8swj.jpg)
Post by: HiFlyer on March 27, 2015, 12:16:37 am
Post by: cameni on March 27, 2015, 03:02:27 am
Post by: cameni on March 27, 2015, 07:11:58 am
Those mountains are looking soooo natural.. For me they are lovely! I dont know if would be good if u touch more displacements now, when it seems u found the G point of the mountains xDD
Displacement doesn't alter the colors, and it adds small scale detail and makes overhanging rocks.
(http://i.minus.com/ibs3lJj1wbeNC0.gif)
Post by: josem75 on March 27, 2015, 10:13:59 am
Those mountains are looking soooo natural.. For me they are lovely! I dont know if would be good if u touch more displacements now, when it seems u found the G point of the mountains xDD
Displacement doesn't alter the colors, and it adds small scale detail and makes overhanging rocks.
Maybe i abuse of you. But could you put a close up pic of the Everest and Lhotse like i put? It seems you got a natural mix of rock colors anyway with the displacement or not.
Post by: cameni on March 27, 2015, 10:20:50 am
Post by: 2eyed on March 27, 2015, 11:33:29 am
Those mountains are looking soooo natural.. For me they are lovely! I dont know if would be good if u touch more displacements now, when it seems u found the G point of the mountains xDD
Displacement doesn't alter the colors, and it adds small scale detail and makes overhanging rocks.
To displace or not to displace. This is the question. :D
To me, with displacement it looks better as it adds more detail. But how about a slider for displacement rocks. It would give us greater variety and everyone just could adjust to his/her personal likings.
In general I'd like to have much more sliders for everything e.g. for wave/surf height, grass height, grass broadness, water sky reflection color, amount of daisies... ;) to create a unique appearance.
Post by: cameni on March 27, 2015, 12:01:28 pm
There will be parameter tables for individual rock and soil types, but then it can be easily misbalanced and gotten out of the sane region into a land where various optimization hacks rear their ugly heads.
It's a delicate job :)
Post by: aWac9 on March 27, 2015, 12:01:45 pm
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escala_de_Beaufort
It is something I hope with patience
https://youtu.be/gRcA8bmoCa0
https://www.facebook.com/Geografismos?fref=nf
Post by: Acetone on March 27, 2015, 12:33:29 pm
Time of global sliders will soon end ;)
There will be parameter tables for individual rock and soil types, but then it can be easily misbalanced and gotten out of the sane region into a land where various optimization hacks rear their ugly heads.
It's a delicate job :)
In addition to bug fixing for the next release, I'm working on a status report with info about how things are progressing and what can be expected ;)
(http://media.giphy.com/media/9EuG8bg3yzhzq/giphy.gif)
Post by: cameni on March 27, 2015, 12:49:07 pm
In addition to bug fixing for the next release, I'm working on a status report with info about how things are progressing and what can be expected ;)
That actually had a very quick fulfillment, Sunday, February 9, 2014 (http://outerra.blogspot.com/2014/02/2013-retrospective-2014-look-ahead.html) :)
Post by: Acetone on March 27, 2015, 12:57:53 pm
In addition to bug fixing for the next release, I'm working on a status report with info about how things are progressing and what can be expected ;)
That actually had a very quick fulfillment, Sunday, February 9, 2014 (http://outerra.blogspot.com/2014/02/2013-retrospective-2014-look-ahead.html) :)
Ha! :facepalm: I didn't looked at the date when the post was quoted in this topic (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=2399.msg34375#msg34375) and I tough you were announcing a new "Look ahead" post for this year...
Post by: 2eyed on March 27, 2015, 01:41:14 pm
Time of global sliders will soon end ;)I'm looking forward about that announcement! But since there is, for example, no one "right" water or one "right" sky, I believe in sliders or customization for things like ToD settings etc. I suppose you could see it different, Cameni, because you are a mathematical mind.
There will be parameter tables for individual rock and soil types, but then it can be easily misbalanced and gotten out of the sane region into a land where various optimization hacks rear their ugly heads.
It's a delicate job :)
Post by: HiFlyer on March 27, 2015, 01:44:20 pm
Time of global sliders will soon end ;)I'm looking forward about that announcement! But since there is, for example, no one "right" water or one "right" sky, I believe in sliders or customization for things like ToD settings etc. I suppose you could see it different, Cameni, because you are a mathematical mind.
There will be parameter tables for individual rock and soil types, but then it can be easily misbalanced and gotten out of the sane region into a land where various optimization hacks rear their ugly heads.
It's a delicate job :)
Or he's seen how flight simmers like to go in and mess with stuff then wonder why they are getting 3 frames per second..... (nods)
Post by: 2eyed on March 27, 2015, 02:24:02 pm
Post by: cameni on March 27, 2015, 02:40:14 pm
- fixed issues with controls
- restored rock displacement
- vertical mouse enabled in ufo+oculus
Post by: 2eyed on March 27, 2015, 03:11:30 pm
When looking upwards at a certain angle nearby terrain sometimes dissappears.
Post by: zzz on March 27, 2015, 07:27:45 pm
Post by: thx_nb on March 27, 2015, 07:33:30 pm
Also had some trouble starting (hanging on Initializing), but was fixed after removing the cfg files.
(http://i.imgur.com/4FCOn5e.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4zI8lPs.jpg)
Post by: cameni on March 28, 2015, 02:17:31 am
Alt key is still stuck on mine. Trying to change the camera opens the console. I'm also assuming it's why the Back movement in UFO mode isn't working.Delete iomap folder in data (not the defaults in program directory).
Post by: cameni on March 28, 2015, 02:20:47 am
For me now the rivers (water meshes) are visible 'over' the clouds:It's one of the known issues with the transparency, but we'll fix this one easier.
Also had some trouble starting (hanging on Initializing), but was fixed after removing the cfg files.
http://i.imgur.com/4FCOn5e.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/4FCOn5e.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/4zI8lPs.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/4zI8lPs.jpg)
Post by: HiFlyer on March 28, 2015, 09:28:20 am
Post by: cameni on March 28, 2015, 09:35:48 am
Post by: HiFlyer on March 28, 2015, 10:39:00 am
Even after deleting the iomap/*.cfg files in data dir? If so, please attach your base.cfg file.
ok, its working now.
TY!
Post by: josem75 on March 28, 2015, 11:12:19 am
Post by: cameni on March 28, 2015, 02:25:20 pm
Post by: PRiME on April 16, 2015, 08:17:40 pm
Post by: cameni on April 20, 2015, 05:52:25 am
Hey cameni, don't suppose you guys can compile a Linux executable sometime? seems Outerra would be pretty easy to port over given its built on OpenGL?In theory easy, though there are other parts that may need porting. We try to keep it portable for the future.
A Linux version is actually required by some of our customers, so it will eventually happen.
Post by: HiFlyer on April 20, 2015, 08:41:26 am
Hey cameni, don't suppose you guys can compile a Linux executable sometime? seems Outerra would be pretty easy to port over given its built on OpenGL?In theory easy, though there are other parts that may need porting. We try to keep it portable for the future.
A Linux version is actually required by some of our customers, so it will eventually happen.
Also, I never seem to hear of Linux VR experiences.... Unless somebody is using wine. i suspect a linux Outerra would be big news in that world.
Post by: atgcab on April 23, 2015, 09:31:48 pm
D:/Juegos/Outerra/Antworld/packages/outerra/ah64/ah64.objdef:8 :
:objdef - member variable: tags not defined
"tags" : "helicopter" ,
^
Any ideas? Thank you.
Post by: PRiME on April 23, 2015, 09:56:15 pm
Quote
Also, I never seem to hear of Linux VR experiences.... Unless somebody is using wine. i suspect a linux Outerra would be big news in that world.
I don't believe Outerra works under wine unfortunately.
Post by: cameni on April 24, 2015, 01:27:49 am
Hi, something went wrong the last time I launched Anteworld: the updating process never ended, so I finally closed the program. Now, when I launch it there's a Fatal error message saying:
D:/Juegos/Outerra/Antworld/packages/outerra/ah64/ah64.objdef:8 :
:objdef - member variable: tags not defined
"tags" : "helicopter" ,
^
Any ideas? Thank you.
Please install the latest version from http://demo.outerra.com if the update process failed - some files were apparently converted to newer versions but you have an old outerra.exe file.
Post by: zzz on May 03, 2015, 09:28:09 am
Post by: Sam on May 05, 2015, 02:05:53 am
So what's next on the agenda?Holiday :P
Post by: PytonPago on May 05, 2015, 10:01:05 am
So what's next on the agenda?Holiday :P
... 48 hour non-stop OT flight marathon :D
Post by: cameni on May 18, 2015, 04:12:36 am
- adjusted rock coloring, rock displacement, enhanced dirt patch texturing
- controls menu showing modifiers, fixed right-click to clear, fixed detection of keys with modifiers
- added vehicle/aircraft solar_time script method returning time info and outside light levels (useful for controlling automatic lights control on vehicles)
- error log behavior changed to one-line alert message on error, auto turning off in 3 sec
- default log shortcut changed to alt-L, alt-shift-L opens external eng.log tracker window
- console .active command to bind to current vehicle
- fix for floating grass, road spikes in editor
- fixed set_fps_camera_pos reset back to no joint
- fixed app crash when there's an error in aircraft script
- fixed shader errors on old NV cards
- fixed sky/stars/clouds in spherical projection mode
- fixed small mesh visibility (vanishing cockpit instruments or other small objects off the main pivot)
- fixed fullscreen geographic projection mode
- fixed ui visible in saved location screenshots
- workaround for buggy NVIDIA driver 350.12
Post by: Haydz192 on May 18, 2015, 04:48:25 am
Damn son, where you planning on flying from/to? ;D That's a lot of flying hahahaSo what's next on the agenda?Holiday :P
... 48 hour non-stop OT flight marathon :D
Post by: zzz on May 18, 2015, 05:54:16 am
http://i.imgur.com/Bx70yLm.jpg
Post by: Revolver on May 18, 2015, 02:00:03 pm
Version 0.8.4.5504......
Chef, this is good everything and nice, but where has our beer remained? Has buried pair of boxes in Swiss Kanton specially in the Alps for cooling, but now I do not find it any more...? ??? ::) :P :) ;)
p.s. nice Job.
Post by: aWac9 on May 18, 2015, 02:05:54 pm
8)
Post by: Acetone on May 18, 2015, 02:07:44 pm
Seems to be a tiling effect on brown grasslands now.
http://i.imgur.com/Bx70yLm.jpg
Seems like it's only occurring on the lakes areas. I mean, this pattern is only visible where the water is supposed to be, you can clearly see the shores. I guess it's backed in the color data and the changes in the dirt patch texturing are creating a visible pattern here :)
Post by: Jagerbomber on May 18, 2015, 02:09:26 pm
Post by: cameni on May 18, 2015, 02:11:09 pm
Post by: thibdumont on May 18, 2015, 03:06:59 pm
Post by: aWac9 on May 18, 2015, 03:09:41 pm
the color does not match
https://youtu.be/AsJesw1QJiI
;)
Post by: cameni on May 18, 2015, 03:20:16 pm
Post by: thibdumont on May 18, 2015, 03:59:09 pm
Post by: Revolver on May 18, 2015, 04:10:01 pm
ein bißchen ernst.
1) Da in frühere Vers. könnte man noch mit Straßeneditor noch irgendwie
arbeiten, jetzt in diese Vers. geht das (zumindest bei mir) gar nichts mehr.
Stendigt springt Mapkarte wenn man "M" druckt und will den Wegende in andere Richtung
verschieben.Außerdem hängt das noch (was frühe nie vorkam), wenn man Straßenende
bewegt.
2) habe einen Schießstand gebaut (mit Editor), aber nach update war alles weg
verschwunden. Die gespeicherte Vers. brach auch nichts alles zurück. Sieht so aus,
als ob die heilige Kuh alles weg geleckt hat...komisch, aber war.
3) nach update sah andere aufgestellten Objekten so aus, als ob die Erdpolen
sich verschoben haben da die meisten (wenn nicht alle) Objekte fast vollständig
begraben wurden.
Nun ich muß ehrlich sagen das dieses Vers. - Patch, wie auch immer nicht ganz geglückt hat. Außerdem, ihr könnt was mit dem Straßeneditor was machen...ihn verbessern oder so, denn im jetzigen Stand kann man da kaum was machen.
Und noch was. Beim Spielstart spring kurz einen roten Schrift mit irgendwelcher Fehler
auf die man keine Zeit hat zum lesen.Daher kann ich nicht genau sagen was da steht...
nur irgendwas mit Geometry Map, oder so...
Wenn welchen LOG's etc. gebraucht werden, sagt Bescheid.
MfG.
Post by: cameni on May 18, 2015, 04:11:38 pm
Code: [Select]
$con.symbol("$SRGB_TF_BUG", "1")
Post by: thibdumont on May 18, 2015, 04:14:26 pm
Post by: HiFlyer on May 18, 2015, 04:59:54 pm
That driver was replaced with a new WHQL driver as of today: 352.86
Post by: aWac9 on May 18, 2015, 05:07:38 pm
to close and re-enter I get the same problem
???
Post by: PRiME on May 18, 2015, 06:11:20 pm
Post by: KW71 on May 18, 2015, 09:17:28 pm
What about the text "Lorem ipsum sit amet ..." beside the soldier?
Post by: Acetone on May 19, 2015, 02:57:29 am
Everything looks fine on my side. Thanks!!!
What about the text "Lorem ipsum sit amet ..." beside the soldier?
Haha didn't noticed this one :D "Lorem ipsum" is a standard placeholder text (correct word spacing of of normal text), based on a Cicero text, so I guess it's an UI test. This may be really practical to locate a vehicle at long distance...
Post by: cameni on May 19, 2015, 02:59:27 am
Ok! grass problem solved momentarily apply code ALT+C
to close and re-enter I get the same problem
It wasn't a permanent fix, just a verification that it indeed is the cause. We'll enhance the detection of the sRGB bug.
Seems OpenGL is VERY sensitive to driver updates? or is AMD/Nvidia just not paying attention to OpenGL enough in their code?
The latter; not many game companies are using newer OpenGL features. In our development we hit and reported many driver bugs, because we were apparently first to use them. It's much better now though.
In this case it's a problem in sRGB handling, where some texture sampling calls do the color conversion to linear space and some don't.
On our 5770 card it doesn't show, so it's just some AMD cards from older series and some driver versions.
Post by: HiFlyer on May 19, 2015, 05:13:39 am
Is it possible to use this for other actions? Such as turning on street and/or house lights at night?
Or maybe starting windmills turning at certain times?
Post by: Uriah on May 19, 2015, 05:17:21 am
Regards,
Uriah
Post by: Acetone on May 19, 2015, 06:00:18 am
Is it possible to use this for other actions? Such as turning on street and/or house lights at night?
It's a vehicle script so it will require to transform the object in a vehicle (like what Levi did with the wind turbine). I'm not sure if these will work without being activated (placed by the player or entered after being placed as static objects).
Post by: bomber on May 19, 2015, 03:15:18 pm
Any ideas
Post by: cameni on May 19, 2015, 03:33:00 pm
Post by: HiFlyer on May 20, 2015, 08:35:51 pm
Post by: Chinate on May 20, 2015, 09:24:20 pm
Just pretend they're waves...Smart
Post by: aWac9 on May 21, 2015, 06:01:44 pm
Post by: aWac9 on May 21, 2015, 06:06:09 pm
video performed today
but this structure was built for months, the update does not repair automatically.
"fix for floating grass, road spikes in editor"
https://youtu.be/RAGGnv6TXa0
Post by: Acetone on May 22, 2015, 02:51:45 am
video performed today
but this structure was built for months, the update does not repair automatically.
"fix for floating grass, road spikes in editor"
You should be able to fix the problem by reloading the road (select it and click "make"). If it's not working, try to increase the transitional area of several nodes of the road, or move their elevation a bit. The update fix is only working on new roads :)
Post by: aWac9 on May 22, 2015, 04:22:11 pm
:)
720/1080
https://youtu.be/NbDIL68BEOk
Post by: cameni on May 24, 2015, 12:41:01 pm
- better detection of sRGB color bug on some AMD cards (pale grass issue)
- fixed patterns visible on dirt
Post by: thibdumont on May 24, 2015, 01:33:36 pm
Still got the pale grass issue on my HD 5850 :/
Post by: PytonPago on May 24, 2015, 01:36:48 pm
Post by: cameni on May 24, 2015, 02:54:58 pm
Hi,What driver version are you using? Also please post your eng.log (just from a short session to keep it short).
Still got the pale grass issue on my HD 5850 :/
Post by: cameni on May 24, 2015, 02:56:08 pm
for some reason it shows an error after downloading and attempting to launch the -5504 patch and attempts to re-download it again and again after logging in ... (after a clean install)What kind of error? Please check the update.log, should be in the user home dir\outerra
Post by: thibdumont on May 24, 2015, 04:02:17 pm
Post by: Jagerbomber on June 25, 2015, 11:46:09 pm
Post by: cameni on June 26, 2015, 01:28:07 am
Forum link on the website homepage is broken?Fixed, thanks for noticing.
Post by: Jagerbomber on June 29, 2015, 07:38:44 pm
Post by: HiFlyer on June 29, 2015, 08:05:46 pm
It's broken again. :))
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a625/Multitesseract/29664a7e6c24c9b6b46c2e5a7fb24314_zpslvizlmc4.jpg)
Post by: cameni on June 30, 2015, 01:40:55 am
Post by: zzz on July 06, 2015, 10:52:18 am
Post by: HiFlyer on July 06, 2015, 01:26:44 pm
So what's going to be in the next update?
Shhhhhhhhh. They're working! :))
Post by: DenisJ on July 09, 2015, 01:27:36 am
So what's going to be in the next update?
I would support the question! Any ETAs? Are you gonna release it this summer at least? ::)
Post by: cameni on July 09, 2015, 05:41:55 am
Apart from that various functionality bits in vehicles and aircraft, including a way to attach and fire rockets and projectiles. Hopefully also a new configuration UI for controls will be completed with that, allowing us to finally release the extended controls.
Post by: josem75 on July 09, 2015, 06:38:10 am
We are aiming for a summer release a new version with completely reworked sandbox editor, making it much more usable and extensible. Pasto (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?action=profile;u=337) is promising a video for this week showing the upcoming sandbox functionality. Also including a better object browser.
Apart from that various functionality bits in vehicles and aircraft, including a way to attach and fire rockets and projectiles. Hopefully also a new configuration UI for controls will be completed with that, allowing us to finally release the extended controls.
You are the best news in my week! Well, ok ok.. Together with the HUGE litecoin bonner, (my bagholding coin)...
But who cares being "rich".. The important! Cheers Outerra!!
Post by: HiFlyer on July 16, 2015, 05:35:03 pm
Post by: cameni on July 18, 2015, 05:56:26 am
Video is going well, but Brano forgot to give me rights to start a new TOPIC in the Development section :).
Moved here: http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3352.0
Post by: sigz on August 04, 2015, 05:48:33 am
Post by: cameni on August 04, 2015, 11:18:54 am
Still no planned linux build ?Still planned only.
Post by: FreeUser on August 18, 2015, 12:38:05 pm
We are aiming for a summer release a new version with completely reworked sandbox editor, making it much more usable and extensible. Pasto (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?action=profile;u=337) is promising a video for this week showing the upcoming sandbox functionality. Also including a better object browser.
Apart from that various functionality bits in vehicles and aircraft, including a way to attach and fire rockets and projectiles. Hopefully also a new configuration UI for controls will be completed with that, allowing us to finally release the extended controls.
Any update about that ?
Post by: 2eyed on August 18, 2015, 03:17:56 pm
Post by: cameni on August 18, 2015, 03:42:06 pm
The question is... when does the summer end for cameni? :D
Now with the global warming ... :)
Post by: aWac9 on August 19, 2015, 01:20:41 pm
The phrase :
The computer clock Linus Torvalds is not synchronized with the world. It is the world that is synchronized with the computer Linus Torvalds: grin:
I have no doubt that this is so.
I imagine it will come in time .. nobody said the world was made in a day.
Of course,, this is my opinion ... and I must say,,, worthless. :)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/o3dcCxFov8RiIJREFsNk_88xhB0Gi49PEJZG7VAEfqQAHbOkIAQ4ff4asGHP87zLssFI4g=s167)
Note the first feature film produced success in servers GNU / Linux was Titanic in 1997.
James Cameron also chose servers with GNU / Linux to produce the film Avatar.
Post by: mikemayday on August 20, 2015, 07:42:07 am
Post by: cameni on August 20, 2015, 10:46:07 am
Post by: cameni on August 20, 2015, 02:58:57 pm
- new scenery editor on alt-F1 (alpha)
- support for basic vector rivers (not persistent yet)
- new weather settings in F11, cloud coverage, wind settings
- wind affecting aircraft, grass, tress ...
- sunlight and moonlight levels modulated by adjustable cloud cover
- monochromatic rendering in low light conditions to simulate human eye
- moon model (not procedural yet), correct position and phase, affects night lighting levels
Post by: Acetone on August 20, 2015, 03:15:42 pm
Thanks a lot to all the team!
Post by: KW71 on August 20, 2015, 03:21:09 pm
Thanks a lot to all the team!
+1
The new weather effects are great!!! Now OT feels more alive!!
(Breathe, Acetone, breathe !!! :)) )
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 20, 2015, 03:29:08 pm
Post by: Acetone on August 20, 2015, 03:36:15 pm
(Breathe, Acetone, breathe !!! :)) )
Can't test the new build now, so I will hold it ;-)
Post by: CaptTrego on August 20, 2015, 03:59:56 pm
Post by: aWac9 on August 20, 2015, 04:11:04 pm
we must study it, I see that they have changed the tone colors, and the file world.cfg,, I see Snowmin / snowsat .. where is it?
missed you see the logo of outerra,, is good take
(https://www.imageshost.eu/images/2015/08/20/luna1.jpg)
Post by: zaelu on August 20, 2015, 04:27:32 pm
the game does not start from few updates before. enters in login and tries to re download latest version and restarts to login then it starts over.
I deleted the game folder and the folder from user files. redownloaded the installer, nothing.
I don't think is the first time when this happens.
it's a bit of a let down to have such lame installer that can't figure out how to update or clean install so it doesn't fall miserably on its own nose.
Post by: Uriah on August 20, 2015, 04:51:08 pm
Are you deleting all associated files and installing a clean version? http://planet.anteworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-0.8.4.5372.exe
After installing 5372 and logging in again, what version does it update to before becoming stuck in an update loop?
I might suggest using uninstall.exe in the Anteworld folder, and after that try deleting the build and data folder. Also trying installing both the build and the data directory to completely new locations.
Also try deleting eng.cfg and world.cfg files located in your data directory (Users/YourName/Outerra/) and restarting OT.
I have never had a problem with updates, and have installed OT on many different machines. If you continue to have issues, please post your Windows version, GPU/driver/OpenGL version, and you can upload your eng.log file here after running the update.
Best regards,
Uriah
Post by: zzz on August 20, 2015, 04:52:48 pm
Post by: Uriah on August 20, 2015, 04:56:13 pm
MiG-29 looks fine here:
(http://i.imgur.com/vWhfw7o.jpg)
Did you make sure your GPU/OpenGL drivers are updated?
Regards,
Uriah
Post by: zzz on August 20, 2015, 05:28:06 pm
Quote
ERROR: vehicle::init_chassis: C:/Users/Simon/Outerra/packages/Gallente/gca1/Nyx.js(171): TypeError: Object [object Object] has no method 'add_pointlight_source'
example line
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//invoked only the first time the model is loaded, or upon reload
function init_chassis(param){
this.add_pointlight_source({x:xOffset + 41.934,y:yOffset + 1674.4185,z:zOffset + 15.1298}, {x:178,y:342,z:336}, 0.01);
If I comment out the pointlights it goes on to say the spotlight method also doesn't exist.
Post by: cameni on August 20, 2015, 05:42:29 pm
Post by: Uriah on August 20, 2015, 05:44:04 pm
Those are the old light methods, and should be replaced with the new ones which include extended parameters for better control of the lights.
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var cockpit_spot = {x:0.2,y:0.2,z:0.26};
var cp = {color:cockpit_spot, angle:80, size:0.05, edge:0.99, range:0.9, intensity:0.01, fadeout:0.1};
this.add_spot_light({x:-0.432,y:2.041,z:0.059}, {z:-0.754, y:-.656}, cp); //_Frontal panel light 1 (from left to right)Code: [Select]
var cockpit_indicators = {x:0.0,y:0.1,z:0.013};
var ci = {color:cockpit_indicators, size:0.005, range:0.1, intensity:0.01, fadeout:0.0};
this.add_point_light({x:0.366,y:2.02,z:-0.06264}, ci); //Light 7 Pitch/Roll Indicator - PointRegards,
Uriah
Post by: zzz on August 20, 2015, 06:00:03 pm
Any word on the projectiles and missiles?
Post by: HiFlyer on August 20, 2015, 10:26:21 pm
Post by: John514 on August 21, 2015, 03:07:13 am
(I wonder where that poor cessna ended up! :P)
Post by: Revolver on August 21, 2015, 07:15:08 am
Post by: zaelu on August 21, 2015, 10:11:08 am
Hi zaelu,
Are you deleting all associated files and installing a clean version? http://planet.anteworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-0.8.4.5372.exe
After installing 5372 and logging in again, what version does it update to before becoming stuck in an update loop?
I might suggest using uninstall.exe in the Anteworld folder, and after that try deleting the build and data folder. Also trying installing both the build and the data directory to completely new locations.
Also try deleting eng.cfg and world.cfg files located in your data directory (Users/YourName/Outerra/) and restarting OT.
I have never had a problem with updates, and have installed OT on many different machines. If you continue to have issues, please post your Windows version, GPU/driver/OpenGL version, and you can upload your [url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8][url=http://goo.gl/DaK1M8]eng.log (http://goo.gl/DaK1M8)[/url][/url] file here after running the update.
Best regards,
Uriah
I install this version from your link
Anteworld-0.8.4.5372.exe
I install it with both folders (install folder and settings cache folder from user files) deleted
first it starts it shows this!
(http://i.imgur.com/Y9l3pD0.png)
after I click on login and tries to download new version etc it goes to here:
(http://i.imgur.com/MIu0dtX.png)
after that it just repeats.
We can see the end numbers doesn't make sense. Although I install 5372 it starts as 5525 and tries to install 5377... oh and the thread is named 5819 :D
Post by: Uriah on August 21, 2015, 10:22:07 am
Cameni might have more insight.
Hope we can somehow get this resolved for you! :)
Regards,
Uriah
Post by: cameni on August 21, 2015, 10:23:45 am
Post by: Acetone on August 21, 2015, 10:24:53 am
We can see the end numbers doesn't make sense. Although I install 5372 it starts as 5525 and tries to install 5377... oh and the thread is named 5819 :D
Check if both of your Outerra folders (the one in the program files directory and the user data one) have both full writing permission, (right click/properties/security).
Post by: cameni on August 21, 2015, 10:25:32 am
Post by: aWac9 on August 21, 2015, 01:46:45 pm
.- The wind in the grass is well managed =) ....... the trees :facepalm:
.- I'm having trouble setting up the joystick.
.- I notice too dark colors (cold)
,. Introduce what command to control the level of snow?
.
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 21, 2015, 01:48:10 pm
Post by: 2eyed on August 21, 2015, 03:48:33 pm
Btw, enviromental settings reset to default with every startup now.
Post by: KW71 on August 22, 2015, 01:04:01 pm
Post by: cameni on August 22, 2015, 01:14:51 pm
Post by: zaelu on August 22, 2015, 01:31:15 pm
We can see the end numbers doesn't make sense. Although I install 5372 it starts as 5525 and tries to install 5377... oh and the thread is named 5819 :D
Check if both of your Outerra folders (the one in the program files directory and the user data one) have both full writing permission, (right click/properties/security).
That did it! No other reinstall needed, I just made the little squares disappear from those options and it worked. Dunno why those folders where not fully writable by Outerra... it made them and I have UAC on min (win7 64).
Thanks.
Post by: KW71 on August 22, 2015, 02:02:28 pm
Likely just unintentionally omitted.
Good!!! :)
Post by: Foxiol on August 22, 2015, 02:05:20 pm
There are some issues with some "old" vehicles that worked before as usually but all in all is working great for me.
I "went to the Moon" and can't wait to see it once the procedural data is included so we can also land in it. The vistas from there while looking at the Earth are almost like those old real photos taken from the Moon.
Amazing work. ;)
Post by: Acetone on August 22, 2015, 03:59:45 pm
Check if both of your Outerra folders (the one in the program files directory and the user data one) have both full writing permission, (right click/properties/security).
That did it! No other reinstall needed, I just made the little squares disappear from those options and it worked. Dunno why those folders where not fully writable by Outerra... it made them and I have UAC on min (win7 64).
Thanks.
Great! I've had this UAC problem when installing the data folder at the same place as the program, so I figured out something similar may have happen to you.
*
Now, I managed to test this new update, and so far it's amazing. I think the wind slider is maybe a bit too generous (at 240 m/s, I don't think any tree will resist, a tornado goes up to 130 m/s...).
I did a quick test with the new editor and it was glorious. It will take some time to get used to it, and I need to check but it seems like majority of object related keyboard shortcut have changed, but it was a blast. And if you need to know why it's a big change, here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4duN8suCX4
You can do it in a more clever, clean way, but it's just a quick example.
Thanks a lot guys, it's really a big change for scenery creation :)
Post by: cameni on August 22, 2015, 05:26:45 pm
Post by: andfly on August 22, 2015, 05:36:53 pm
I'm not sure if this is exactly what we're talking about here, but I always restart again after an update completes. I noticed a long time ago that it seems to behave like the updates didn't even go through after the auto-restart (not to mention other things happening like it not setting the correct full-screen resolution) and I just got in the habit of restarting it again manually after each update. Restarting BEFORE I hit login again.
Is advice that might be useful!
Thanks Jagerbomber
Post by: josem75 on August 23, 2015, 01:01:56 am
Likely just unintentionally omitted.
I am another who is missing shadow intensity so much! So I am happy was just accidentally omited :) I hope you can re-add again very soon.
In fact i was about to ask. Would be posible increase the maximum value? Lets say 8 or 10 (double).
For people who like very soft shadows and good visibility in shadow places is great (90% time i use it in 5, maximum).
Also, i loved the trees colours and now they are almost totally black. Dont know if its conected with shadow intensity lack, or its something more?
Anyway, this little thing, and a fail not saving your settings in enviroment after you close and reopen the engine (at least in my case), its a great update!
Post by: 2eyed on August 23, 2015, 04:39:10 am
Likely just unintentionally omitted.
I am another who is missing shadow intensity so much! So I am happy was just accidentally omited :) I hope you can re-add again very soon.
In fact i was about to ask. Would be posible increase the maximum value? Lets say 8 or 10 (double).
For people who like very soft shadows and good visibility in shadow places is great (90% time i use it in 5, maximum).
Also, i loved the trees colours and now they are almost totally black. Dont know if its conected with shadow intensity lack, or its something more?
Anyway, this little thing, and a fail not saving your settings in enviroment after you close and reopen the engine (at least in my case), its a great update!
Yes it's a nice update, and I also think trees are too dark in general (they have been always for me). They got even darker with all the shading applied to them though. Maybe we could have a command or slider to lighten them up.
Post by: bomber on August 24, 2015, 12:49:05 pm
In spring new leaves are bright light green, then as the leaves mature the green becomes darker. Following on from this stage high winds and weather damage the leaves and the overall green of the tree darkens with a steady increase of dark browns... Then autumn arrives with the reds which again darken with into browns...
Just a thought...
Post by: 2eyed on August 24, 2015, 01:07:26 pm
With regard trees and their colour..
In spring new leaves are bright light green, then as the leaves mature the green becomes darker. Following on from this stage high winds and weather damage the leaves and the overall green of the tree darkens with a steady increase of dark browns... Then autumn arrives with the reds which again darken with into browns...
Just a thought...
Since there are no seasonal variations in color implemented yet, this may not be the point. It's the brightness level of trees that seem to be a bit on the dark side, often not corresponding well with the surrounding grasslands. Also shady areas like under trees often get too dark.
Post by: HiFlyer on August 24, 2015, 04:34:43 pm
Not sure exactly how many lines it should have. You can always save backup, then delete world.cfg and or eng.cfg and restart OT and those files will be freshly generated. This can help so solve many issues which are obvious.
Regards,
Uriah
Is anyone having trouble with some of Levis planes? Flaps no longer working?
Post by: aWac9 on August 24, 2015, 05:10:24 pm
Ilyushin - Corby starlet and A320 work well.
"try installing again"
Post by: CaptTrego on August 24, 2015, 05:22:32 pm
Post by: CaptTrego on August 24, 2015, 05:42:34 pm
Post by: aWac9 on August 24, 2015, 06:29:30 pm
1080
https://youtu.be/rUecnz4U4II
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 25, 2015, 02:14:13 pm
Post by: HiFlyer on August 25, 2015, 03:23:12 pm
F117A is the only thing that gives me error.
Ilyushin - Corby starlet and A320 work well.
"try installing again"
The ilyushin has throttle controls that are now outside the plane, The corby has problems with visible flaps and all the planes now seen to "wallow" pretty badly in any sort of turn. Just looking at the update description, I don't see what would be causing this. And Levi doesn't seem to be around as much, so it might take a while to pin things down.
Post by: aWac9 on August 25, 2015, 05:01:34 pm
I did notice error in the controls, and I said, but no one commented, so I thought I only had the error.
it feels like,,, frustrated, but we get used to these things, I just know that as you wash the dishes, do so with care and respect, but still will continue breaking.
it is not necessary to share this view,, but surely will agree rejoice when we see Levy
:)
Post by: cameni on August 27, 2015, 03:16:02 am
Post by: LeeP on August 27, 2015, 06:06:50 am
Post by: DenisJ on August 27, 2015, 12:02:30 pm
After using the Google Maps overlay for a while I get a "not enough space in image cache" error or something like that and the UI stops being visible.What exactly it shows: "ERROR: not enough spaсe in image cache for C4E view size 850x60"
Post by: cameni on August 27, 2015, 01:50:28 pm
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 27, 2015, 02:20:05 pm
Same problem encountered.After using the Google Maps overlay for a while I get a "not enough space in image cache" error or something like that and the UI stops being visible.What exactly it shows: "ERROR: not enough spaсe in image cache for C4E view size 850x60"
Well, Interestingly I guess, sometimes it says those dimensions, sometimes it says my resolution. I believe it first showed me 850x60 (I think) while I was in the middle of using the full overlay, and then the next time it happened after restarting, it showed my resolution. I don't know if that matters or makes a difference or if something else is going wrong to make it hit the limit faster (though it does sure seem like accidentally backing out of the map overlay and having to re-open it makes it happen a lot quicker).
Post by: DenisJ on August 27, 2015, 03:30:42 pm
Google maps eat tons of memory. In eng.cfg there's img_cache_num_slices - you can enlarge that (a bit).Thanks for the hint!
Post by: pico on August 27, 2015, 05:17:29 pm
Post by: cameni on August 28, 2015, 01:12:10 am
How can I change the water level now? I cant find it. :-[
Planet-specific settings have been moved from world.cfg to planet.cfg, which is not saved because of a bug.
You can create planet.cfg in data/earth/planet.cfg and put the following there:
Code: [Select]
name = "Earth",
comment = "SRTM 90m compilation",
sun = (sun_params) {
betaRM = (float4) {
x = .0058,
y = .017,
z = .041,
w = .004
},
sun_color = (float3) {
x = 1.0,
y = 1.0,
z = 1.0
},
intensity = 25.0,
ground_reflectance = .08,
exposure = 3.5,
shadow_light = 1.0,
scattering = .5
},
waterfog = (waterfog_params) {
sea_level = 0.0,
fog_level = 0.0,
half_depth = (float4) {
x = .33,
y = 1.6,
z = 3.8,
w = 20.0
},
scattering = (float4) {
x = .005,
y = .005,
z = .005,
w = .005
}
},
forest = (forest) {
ecs_min = (float3) {
x = 0.0,
y = -.05,
z = .03
},
ecs_max = (float3) {
x = 6000.0,
y = 1.0,
z = .3
},
ecs_trans = (float3) {
x = 500.0,
y = .1,
z = .2
},
threshold = .4,
aspect = .4
},
snow = (virtual_elevation) {
virtelev = (float2) {
x = 3500.0,
y = 0.0
},
virtcurv = 2500.0,
snowmin = 4900.0,
snowsat = 6000.0
},
clouds = (cloud_params) {
base = 3000.0,
height = 4000.0
}
And change what you want.
Post by: aWac9 on August 28, 2015, 12:28:05 pm
(https://www.imageshost.eu/images/2015/08/28/capturada.jpg)
meaning or better ... as I solve?
I know it's a problem of AMD, using Catalyst Control Center, but can not eliminate all components AMD,, that program had to remove all components AMD?
I used the DDU,, solved and it worked
Note: Your drivers are bugged out or the install/update got botched. :o
Another recommendation. If your motherboard is old you must update the BIOS and walking by the net a llamanda malware LightEater infecting the BIOS, creating what is known as SMM, where they write new instructions into the kernel of the BIOS and then sent to the processor making your PC die in the act, it will not start anymore
Thank you
Post by: aWac9 on August 29, 2015, 01:10:46 pm
why ?
(https://www.imageshost.eu/images/2015/08/29/errorconfigplanet.jpg)
Thank you
Post by: cameni on August 29, 2015, 01:33:26 pm
Post by: aWac9 on August 29, 2015, 01:37:38 pm
Post by: zzz on August 30, 2015, 12:45:11 pm
Apart from that various functionality bits in vehicles and aircraft, including a way to attach and fire rockets and projectiles. Hopefully also a new configuration UI for controls will be completed with that, allowing us to finally release the extended controls.
Will this be coming soon or are we facing another 3 month gap?
Post by: cameni on August 30, 2015, 01:38:07 pm
Post by: ZeosPantera on August 30, 2015, 05:43:36 pm
rockets are on the way.
NOOOOOOO!!!
Post by: aWac9 on September 01, 2015, 01:53:20 am
Have I heard right? ... Can you repeat? :o
https://vimeo.com/137898241
something is changing ... I need to outerra models stations :P ^-^
Post by: deathevor on September 01, 2015, 09:48:21 pm
Changes:Awesome. Few suggestions:
Version 0.8.4.5819 (20 Aug 2015)
- new scenery editor on alt-F1 (alpha)
- support for basic vector rivers (not persistent yet)
- new weather settings in F11, cloud coverage, wind settings
- wind affecting aircraft, grass, tress ...
- sunlight and moonlight levels modulated by adjustable cloud cover
- monochromatic rendering in low light conditions to simulate human eye
- moon model (not procedural yet), correct position and phase, affects night lighting levels
1) New Scenery - really would like to see inport/export (share) option there.
2) Wind Settings - location based realtime weather (so getting online METARs and TAFs). Optionally importing them.
3) Sunlight/Moonlight - Have been waiting for night lights. But a bit disappointed - no moonlight shadows.
And more important night exposure is too dark (Fully understand that exposures probably very accurate).
So really would like to see eye sensitivity adjustments. Like automatic Exposure (aperture).
That would probably bring even more realism.
Apart from that - thanks for update.
Really enjoy to see new features.
Post by: FarlanderMiG on September 12, 2015, 12:29:00 pm
Post by: cameni on September 19, 2015, 04:57:39 pm
- extended controls support for vehicles and aircraft (see defaults/iomap/readme.txt for technical details)
- moved iomap/xxx.default.cfg to defaults/iomap/xxx.cfg
- default bindings for trim (ctrl + action key)
- separate altitude-hold (shift A) and Stability Augmentation System (shift S) for heli,
- F12 shows new controls UI
- scenery editor update, ctrl modifier for forced mouse panning
- updated mig29, c172, ah64, c172 & mig29 sound updates (uriah, kw71, levi)
- c172 made available in demo mode
- added a fire(pos,dir,speed,caliber,color) method to aircraft/vehicle for firing plasma rays
- added test/demo fire event handlers (left mouse button) to T817 and MiG
- fixed tracer burn lights being offset from the landing position and sometimes burning forever
- rotation vector normalization to geomob joint rotation functions
- planet cfg saved at exit
- hud distance working in full range into star background
- added option to not use imperial units in aircraft hud
- fixed moon lighting, flickering at atmo boundary
- fixed rivers in stereo mode
- sRGB texelFetch bug detection handling the MSAA mode as well (pale grass bug)
- fixed crash after the first road waypoint was deleted
- fixed invisible leading road segments
- fix for spikes on terrain from roads going through lowest tile point (needs reapplying the road)
- added "strict" property into objdef, newly imported objects = true, old ones default to false; causes "use strict" in vehicle/aircraft scripts
- fixed jsbsim wind vector
- fixed HID config not being saved for new non-calibrated devices
Post by: FarlanderMiG on September 19, 2015, 05:30:57 pm
Post by: Uriah on September 19, 2015, 05:33:34 pm
You will need to replace ah64.js script in Anteworld/packages/outerra/ah64
Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/view/tf5rkwb2kvfz2b8/ah64.js
Forced strict mode seems to be applied to the second entity instance, which means all of the global and local variables must be declared.
Regards,
Uriah
Post by: aWac9 on September 19, 2015, 05:37:03 pm
Now the moonlight outerra influences the tides soon emerge, and with it the werewolf appear.
thank you very much to all for being there.
Post by: Revolver on September 19, 2015, 06:00:54 pm
Post by: aWac9 on September 19, 2015, 06:36:27 pm
:)
Post by: FarlanderMiG on September 19, 2015, 06:53:36 pm
Post by: Revolver on September 19, 2015, 06:59:25 pm
Post by: aWac9 on September 19, 2015, 07:43:07 pm
Post by: HiFlyer on September 19, 2015, 10:15:27 pm
Cameni, I have black screen after the update ... :o ::) =|
I had the same thing. I reset everything to default, and after I started, everything was fine.
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on September 19, 2015, 11:46:50 pm
Post by: cameni on September 20, 2015, 02:28:15 am
Post by: cameni on September 20, 2015, 02:28:53 am
Man, i got so hyped by the mig-21 :'( maybe one day i'm going to be able to make it myself.. currently trying to learn blender, hopefully getting my first plane finished and imported to outerra.
Sorry about that typo :)
Post by: FarlanderMiG on September 20, 2015, 02:52:46 am
Post by: Acetone on September 20, 2015, 03:26:45 am
Cameni, I have black screen after the update ... :o ::) =|
Airport area is full of spikes. If some have black window just reset graphics settings, it will black issue
Just by curiosity, are you guys under W10?
I noticed UAC is really messy with full screen programs, and after an Outerra update the UAC will prompt the "yes/no" window to authorize the install of the update, but will lock me in the full screen program (in a black screen). So Outerra will restart, but without installing the update (check your version number).
You can fix it by running it in window mode or by opening the Task manager in parallel and alt tab to it when the UAC pop-up.
Edit:
Small tip, you can zoom-in/zoom-out now in the Cessna and the Mig using +/- numpad keys
Post by: HiFlyer on September 20, 2015, 05:37:16 am
Post by: HiFlyer on September 20, 2015, 05:41:03 am
Black window ... if resetting the graphics settings works, it might be that it happens for some graphics cards/drivers only in a specific graphic mode - maybe MSAA settings? Please report your graphics cards, drivers and MSAA settings.
GeForce GTX 770
Driver Version 355.82
MSAA 4X
Post by: cameni on September 20, 2015, 06:27:50 am
Post by: HiFlyer on September 20, 2015, 07:03:02 am
Have you got black screen with that configuration, or resetting the settings helped?
Resetting fixed the problem.
Post by: Revolver on September 20, 2015, 07:15:42 am
Have you got black screen with that configuration, or resetting the settings helped?
I have Win7Ex64... not W10.
Yes, Resetting fixed the problem.
So, everything is going well. ;)
Thanks!
Post by: HiFlyer on September 20, 2015, 07:33:55 am
Have you got black screen with that configuration, or resetting the settings helped?
I have Win7Ex64... not W10.
Yes, Resetting fixed the problem.
So, everything is going well. ;)
Thanks!
Not quite. The ask-13 has stopped working. (It worked for my first few flights, then stopped)
Error: v8 script exception
Scripts ask-13 Js (2)
Syntax error: use of const in strict mode
Post by: cameni on September 20, 2015, 08:20:23 am
Post by: HiFlyer on September 20, 2015, 08:52:46 am
Can you check if ask-13 objdef contains strict : true?
{
"obj" : "ASK-13",
"matlib" : "ASK-13",
"lod_curve" : 850,
"lod_curve1" : 300,
"physics" : "jsbsim/ASK-13",
"script" : "./scripts/ASK-13.js",
"description" : "Schleicher ASK-13",
"parameters" : "",
"fdm_root_dir" : "./FDM/"
Post by: zzz on September 20, 2015, 10:53:50 am
"strict" : false,
to get it to work. Strict mode is a type of java mode that turns any minor errors or bad coding practices into hard stops.
Post by: HiFlyer on September 20, 2015, 05:30:58 pm
Under the script variable and above description, insert
"strict" : false,
to get it to work. Strict mode is a type of java mode that turns any minor errors or bad coding practices into hard stops.
Same thing happens
Post by: cameni on September 20, 2015, 06:26:49 pm
- fix for strict mode bug
- normalized direction in fire() method
Post by: HiFlyer on September 20, 2015, 07:50:27 pm
patch 5941Works fine now, thanks!! =D
- fix for strict mode bug
- normalized direction in fire() method
Post by: pedropp222 on September 21, 2015, 09:29:50 am
I have the latest nvidia drivers.
(http://i.imgur.com/yA0KCWu.png)
Post by: cameni on September 21, 2015, 09:59:22 am
Post by: CaptTrego on September 21, 2015, 11:45:54 am
Elevation -21.44, under the sea level? I think something broke with undersea rendering, should not be this dark.I had that happen to. ...pitch black. Reset to another location all was well.
Post by: SteelRat on September 21, 2015, 12:10:43 pm
Elevation -21.44, under the sea level? I think something broke with undersea rendering, should not be this dark.I had that happen to. ...pitch black. Reset to another location all was well.
I solved the problem of black screen resetting the game to default settings
Post by: pedropp222 on September 21, 2015, 01:18:01 pm
Edit: thanks guys, i got it working! To recap: delete world.cfg and eng.cfg.
Post by: ryakra on September 21, 2015, 07:39:50 pm
Post by: Acetone on September 22, 2015, 02:38:29 am
Post by: cameni on September 22, 2015, 04:08:19 am
- tire friction depending on surface material
- default vehicle steering slower with higher speeds
- fixed black screen in MSAA modes
Post by: SteelRat on September 22, 2015, 10:50:31 am
Please Implement a model of the behavior of the wheel tires.
Spintires and Outerra of creating for each other!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM1al6qEABY
Post by: KW71 on September 22, 2015, 11:13:18 am
Version 0.8.4.5948 (22 Sep 2015)Great!!!
- tire friction depending on surface material
- default vehicle steering slower with higher speeds
Post by: Jagerbomber on September 23, 2015, 01:11:43 am
(Also, for those who didn't notice, with the new tweaks, the Map/Satellite buttons on the Google maps overlay have been moved over to the left.)
And can I request that we get control of the Google map buttons and transparency while having the road window open?
Post by: pedropp222 on September 23, 2015, 07:07:15 am
Post by: Jericho on September 24, 2015, 10:11:07 am
there is fix in the attachment (you must be logged to see attachments)
Google Map overlay (CTRL+SHIFT+G by default)
- google controls moved to top left corner
- google controls are visible while in sandbox mode, Builder mode and Road editor mode
- fixed panning bug while in Builder and Road editor mode
- fixed bug when overlay didnt interact with mouse after sandbox was closed
- NOTE: when Road editor or Builder is open, you might interract with google maps controls (zoom, opacity slide),
but you must use RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON
- geographic overlay form has been repositioned to avoid cnflict with outerra logo (grid_overlay_plugin must be installed)
!!! Known bug !!!
When Google map overlay is active and also Builder dialog is open, there is bug that prevents selection / drag of object, if camera
is positioned low above terrain (aprox. 70 m). Solution is to move camera higher above terrain (zoom out).
OSM Overlay (CTRL+SHIFT+M by default)
- mouse wheel zoom has been enabled
Installation guide:
1) extract zipped file
2) copy content of unzipped "www" directory to "path_to_your_outerra_installation_directory/www directory"
This will be added also to new release.
Post by: KW71 on September 25, 2015, 07:59:19 am
Post by: krz9000 on September 27, 2015, 11:17:11 am
Post by: SteelRat on September 28, 2015, 12:38:06 pm
Attempting to adjust the pedal causes the conflict.
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BA7B7E2655BF556D!2796&authkey=!AGSpVuivfnmeNrs&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg
Post by: cameni on September 28, 2015, 02:26:21 pm
Post by: SteelRat on September 28, 2015, 05:21:21 pm
You can ignore the conflict for half axis binding, it's buggy.
Thank cameni!
Correct adjustment of pedals.
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BA7B7E2655BF556D!2804&authkey=!ANNIVK57ls2zJ-k&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg
Post by: Jericho on September 29, 2015, 11:12:25 am
works until the first left click...then right clicking over the map does nothing
Please krz9000 can you say more information how to get into state when it stops working ?
I tried many scenarios and I couldnt reproduce it.
Thank you.
ps: Did any else experienced something similar ?
Post by: HiFlyer on October 02, 2015, 11:44:04 am
Front wheels disappear when raising landing gear with latest version of Outerra.
(thanks for fixing the cockpit instrument problem, by the way)
Post by: Dharma Initiative on October 05, 2015, 02:41:19 pm
It's still got water in the lower southern part as a bay looking ! I don't understand is this so difficult to make ? I honestly love to explore wonder around in those areas ! I thank all in advance ! Good Luck to all ! Kind Regards !
Post by: PytonPago on October 05, 2015, 03:16:55 pm
Hello To All Again ! I'm just not getting this ! When ? How Long ? Why Not ? The Map Of My Homeland Azerbaijan is still not covered in land completely ?
It's still got water in the lower southern part as a bay looking ! I don't understand is this so difficult to make ? I honestly love to explore wonder around in those areas ! I thank all in advance ! Good Luck to all ! Kind Regards !
... is it lower than, or near sea-level ? Might be just that, as all below is now under water ... also, better terrain resolution should do some tricks too later.
Post by: Acetone on October 05, 2015, 03:56:26 pm
Hello To All Again ! I'm just not getting this ! When ? How Long ? Why Not ? The Map Of My Homeland Azerbaijan is still not covered in land completely ?
It's still got water in the lower southern part as a bay looking ! I don't understand is this so difficult to make ? I honestly love to explore wonder around in those areas ! I thank all in advance ! Good Luck to all ! Kind Regards !
I think Cameni already responded to your question here (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=2396.msg38225#msg38225):
Quote
It's because a large part of Azerbaijan is a land depression as low as -28 meters below the sea level.
Currently any land in OT that's below the sea level is flooded, that includes Caspian basin, Netherlands, Death valley and many more.
It will be possible to rectify once there's a proper lake support that will also be able to drain these parts of the world.
It was possible to change sea elevation by changing a value in the world.cfg file in the user directory, but it seems like it's not working anymore (it's not there and the one I added is not changing anything).
Fixing these flooded lands under sea level will require the solution described above, and it's not ready yet, it will be a relatively big addition to the engine capabilities :)
Post by: HiFlyer on October 05, 2015, 05:12:17 pm
Fixing these flooded lands under sea level will require the solution described above, and it's not ready yet, it will be a relatively big addition to the engine capabilities :)
One I've been waiting for a long while. What you and KW71 have done with lakes and rivers is a great stopgap, but its time to be moving on! :)
Post by: Dharma Initiative on October 06, 2015, 05:34:42 am
Post by: M7 on October 12, 2015, 08:33:44 am
Post by: cameni on October 12, 2015, 11:29:11 am
Post by: M7 on October 12, 2015, 11:51:04 am
Post by: f3n3k on October 16, 2015, 08:51:31 am
I came back after few month or year, No news about a hypothetic game please ??
thanks you very much
Post by: cameni on October 16, 2015, 03:15:08 pm
- scenery editor update - leveling (http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3430.0)
- basic differential support for vehicles
- fixed snow material missing from friction data
- fixed multi-material import
- fixed object visibility issues
- deferred UI loading to fix a slight freezing after start
- fixed UI vertical offset when window size is larger than the screen
Post by: pedropp222 on October 16, 2015, 04:33:48 pm
(http://imgur.com/8Ko9lc6.png)
(http://imgur.com/ty5k4Dn.png)
(http://imgur.com/R7sN8fX.png)
Post by: HiFlyer on October 16, 2015, 04:58:52 pm
Post by: John514 on October 16, 2015, 05:00:12 pm
Post by: pedropp222 on October 16, 2015, 06:01:12 pm
These are the buildings that were invisible:
(http://imgur.com/5jMy3mj.png)
(http://imgur.com/B6hCBRO.png)
Post by: cameni on October 17, 2015, 02:44:41 am
Post by: HiFlyer on October 17, 2015, 03:49:44 am
Thanx!
Post by: pedropp222 on October 17, 2015, 05:58:18 am
Post by: TobiWahn_Kenobi on October 17, 2015, 09:02:56 pm
Windows 10
AMD Radeon HD 5870
CCC 15.10 Beta
OpenGL 6.14.10.13399
Installed latest verison from scratch, did not help.
Any ideas? I so want to see the rivers in action...
Post by: cameni on October 18, 2015, 02:32:09 am
Post by: Leon2806 on October 18, 2015, 04:58:16 am
Post by: TobiWahn_Kenobi on October 18, 2015, 06:29:53 am
Running a MacPro 2010 using bootcamp. I. A not for some reason run the CCC installer directly though (no supported hardware found), I always have to use the device manager to install the drivers.
Windows 10 is a little bitchy about my MacPro it seems.
Are there any logs I can look into? The "eng . log" does not contain anything.
Post by: cameni on October 18, 2015, 08:20:41 am
Post by: cameni on October 18, 2015, 08:22:06 am
Since the last update, Outerra crashes when flying fast with shift and pressing tab at the same time.
Yep I have a debug check on shift+Tab that apparently fails hard in released version.
Post by: TobiWahn_Kenobi on October 18, 2015, 08:00:38 pm
Oh, and my 3d grass is kind of white. Any ideas?
Post by: cameni on October 19, 2015, 01:48:54 am
Oh, and my 3d grass is kind of white. Any ideas?
This usually happened with old drivers that did not properly support sRGB, though we added detection for it. Can you check if eng.log contains something about sRGB?
Post by: HiFlyer on October 19, 2015, 11:31:35 pm
I might make a video.
Post by: TobiWahn_Kenobi on October 20, 2015, 03:33:47 am
WARNING: Cannot find sRGB pixelformat for PF_RGTC1
WARNING: sRGB driver bug, sRGB: 80bc80bc, RGBA: 80803780
hmmmm
Post by: aWac9 on October 22, 2015, 02:06:15 pm
Another solution is to open with Notepad ++ eng.cfg file and change the line 7 and put
msaa = 8, (anti-aliasing MSAA-8X)-4x)-2X)
I do not know is the explanation.
Post by: Dharma Initiative on October 25, 2015, 06:57:16 pm
Post by: Dharma Initiative on October 27, 2015, 02:04:42 pm
Post by: John514 on October 27, 2015, 02:07:56 pm
how come there's no lake in switzerland the famous lake Leman ? That area apparently is convered with land ! is it going to be later on be covered as is in real world or will stay the same ? just wondering ! thanx !
Lakes and rivers have not been added to Outerra yet. Don`t worry, they will be there sometime in the future! :)
Post by: HiFlyer on October 27, 2015, 04:46:40 pm
how come there's no lake in switzerland the famous lake Leman ? That area apparently is convered with land ! is it going to be later on be covered as is in real world or will stay the same ? just wondering ! thanx !
Lakes and rivers have not been added to Outerra yet. Don`t worry, they will be there sometime in the future! :)
SoonTM =D
Post by: Dharma Initiative on October 27, 2015, 11:42:12 pm
Post by: SteelRat on November 09, 2015, 12:21:35 pm
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WARNING: failed to download D:/Outerra_data/data/earth/+z/base.desc
WARNING: failed to download D:/Outerra_data/data/earth/-y/base.desc
WARNING: failed to download D:/Outerra_data/data/earth/+z/base.desc
WARNING: can't connect to www.outerraworld.com
Post by: SteelRat on November 09, 2015, 12:34:09 pm
What could be the reason?Code: [Select]...
WARNING: failed to download D:/Outerra_data/data/earth/+z/base.desc
WARNING: failed to download D:/Outerra_data/data/earth/-y/base.desc
WARNING: failed to download D:/Outerra_data/data/earth/+z/base.desc
WARNING: can't connect to www.outerraworld.com
I corrected, but the question remains, why this happened.
change option in pathTo\Outerra_data\world.cfg
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first-run = false,
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first-run = true,
Post by: cameni on November 10, 2015, 01:22:08 am
Post by: SteelRat on November 10, 2015, 08:45:46 am
first-run doesn't have anything to do with that, I guess you just had temporary connection problems.
RU
Эта проблема, скорее всего случилась из за очередного краха игры, они у меня часто случаются).
Может быть это и странно, мне помогло именно это.
Я логично рассудил, если движок не может найти данные, которые есть, дать движку понять, что игра запускается первый раз, что вызовет повторную конфигурацию игры.
Бинго!
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This problem is most likely occurred due to the collapse of the next game, they I often happen).
Maybe it's strange, I helped just that.
I logically reasoned, if the engine can not find the data that is, give the engine to understand that the game starts for the first time, causing the game to reconfigure.
Bingo!
Post by: cameni on November 10, 2015, 01:14:50 pm
Post by: SteelRat on November 10, 2015, 04:07:45 pm
First-run is only used to display the help window for the first time.
RU
Тем более странно!
Когда это случилось, я тоже подумал, что это может быть проблемой моего интернета, как вариант, но, доступ к сети у меня был, проблема наблюдалась только в Outerra.
А игра не запускалась корректно даже спустя 24 часа!
По этому я задал вопрос о вероятной причине, а позже мне пришла идея изменить этот параметр перед запуском. Игра запустилась корректно, и всё наладилось.
Я верую в теорию вероятности, но не до такой степени), что в момент изменения мною параметра и запуска игры, вдруг всё наладилось само собой, спустя 1 сутки!
Post by: Dharma Initiative on November 11, 2015, 12:43:39 am
Post by: SteelRat on November 11, 2015, 09:21:00 am
Не знаю как у вас но у меня пока что все путём на двух разных компах вот только ввела та же самая да и есть клон одного диска ссд на другой ссд под другим оборудованием ! Западло устанавливать и настраивать все так проще ! Включил в регистри обе ide mode & ahci ! И все ! Только потом активатором и все ! Вообщем на одном : i7 3940xm nvidia Gtx 675m 2gb , 32gb ddr3 @2133mh ( laptop) , desktop: i5 3340 , 32gb ram 1866mhz , nvidia 760gtx 2gb , мать : gigabyte 7 series chipset ! Все путём ! Да иногда что то Рухани на десктопе при запуске где ждёшь домов и тд ! После рухания перезапуск и все ок ! Понятно бэта ! Удачи всем !
В принципе у меня проблемы, как таковой нет). Всё решилось быстро, просто когда случилось я решил подождать, может действительно что то с сетью. А когда я понял что проблема не рассасывается сама по себе, я быстро её разрулил. Для особо тяжёлых случаев всегда есть волшебное лекарство, переустановка, применительно к этому движку, не займёт значительного времени.
Очень часто, мною написанный код, оказывается тяжёл для пищеварения Оутерры), в результате чего ей сносит кукушку). С большой долей вероятности последний краш и был причиной, что то, где то, не успело корректно завершить работу, в результате чего движок не смог в дальнейшем корректно стартовать.
Post by: Dharma Initiative on November 11, 2015, 09:54:44 am
Post by: Planets on December 07, 2015, 08:17:12 pm
Before I had the hardest time ever working with the single largest object in Outerra (the greeble pack bridge) its selection box was messed up and it was a tiny spot on the entire model that you had to be lucky to find to ever be able to select again in Object menu.
But now with the scenery editor the entire thing is selectable with ease and building all the way up to space is now a breeze too with the helpful ctrl+drag to copy, and multiple selection copy+drag which I love. Movement is so much easier and objects are fully selectable in space now!
Before I had to be really careful about every time I spawned this infamous object lest it hover over my world for eternity but now spawning, copying, deleting, moving it is a breeze I love it! :D
I'm inspired to make a new space tower now, one that will now be infinitely easier and quicker to build than the one before.
(http://i.imgur.com/kRx8B5p.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ccUfdD6.jpg)
Post by: HiFlyer on December 07, 2015, 09:20:41 pm
Post by: Acetone on December 08, 2015, 09:54:23 am
Oh, and I never managed to get a working instal of Greeble City, how did you managed to install these?
Post by: Jagerbomber on December 08, 2015, 12:46:50 pm
Probably with the TH2 build update. Luckily it kept the data in the Outerra folder in my user folder, so I just backed it up, installed again, and put it back. Hoping I didn't mess anything up (it did update again after launching), but my changes seem to be up to date.
Strange because it never did that before in build updates since the Insider launch in 2014...
Post by: Acetone on December 08, 2015, 02:28:20 pm
I just realized Windows 10 uninstalled Outerra on me.... >:(
Probably with the TH2 build update. Luckily it kept the data in the Outerra folder in my user folder, so I just backed it up, installed again, and put it back. Hoping I didn't mess anything up (it did update again after launching), but my changes seem to be up to date.
Strange because it never did that before in build updates since the Insider launch in 2014...
Didn't had the problem with Outerra but some other programs were not installed anymore... Take a look at your privacy settings too, some users had everything reset to default ::)
Post by: Planets on December 09, 2015, 03:25:34 pm
Whatcha' gonna tether it to? =D
Maybe I should try and see if stacked enough I can reach the moon, or at least the end of the skybox :))
Oh, and I never managed to get a working instal of Greeble City, how did you managed to install these?
They just worked from the moment I downloaded the pack last year, if you want I can upload my greeble_build_compilation_8 packages file and you can see if that works for you? I don't think there was an associated .otx file with the download, can't remember.
Post by: HiFlyer on December 09, 2015, 05:37:56 pm
Whatcha' gonna tether it to? =D
Maybe I should try and see if stacked enough I can reach the moon, or at least the end of the skybox :))
I think usually Orbital towers are anchored to something heavy (counterweight) just a bit above Geosync. I think something bad would happen structurally if you tried to reach the moon, though!
Post by: John514 on December 09, 2015, 06:09:23 pm
Post by: Planets on December 10, 2015, 02:45:24 pm
I think usually Orbital towers are anchored to something heavy (counterweight) just a bit above Geosync. I think something bad would happen structurally if you tried to reach the moon, though!
Thankfully that won't be an issue in the game now, I'm just going to attempt to create the largest and longest mega-structure in the game I possibly can using those models, should be good fun
Post by: Joe 2.0 on December 10, 2015, 11:30:04 pm
Post by: cameni on December 11, 2015, 03:38:12 am
Post by: zzz on December 15, 2015, 04:36:32 pm
Post by: John514 on December 15, 2015, 07:01:22 pm
I have high hopes for the near future.
BUT remember not to work during the holidays guys!
Post by: Uriah on December 18, 2015, 03:46:41 pm
If i could put in requests for the next update it'd be the ability to add a weapon emitter to a sub-geom object like with pointlights and the ability for vehicles to broadcast their ECEF coords to each other.
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"weapon emitter to a sub-geom obj"
Do you mean attaching the 'fire' method to a BONE joint? I asked for this too.
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function fire_gun(obj, pos, dir){
obj.fire(
pos, //pos - model-space launch position
dir, //dir - model-space launch direction
805, //speed - firing velocity in m/s
0.3, //caliber - meters
{x:1,y:0.3,z:0.05}, //color - plasma color RGB
'gun_muzzle' //joint name to attach the light to
);
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"vehicles to broadcast their ECEF coords to each other"
Do you mean like GPS, radio position finding or other types of sensor targeting an object? This has been discussed, but importantly how is it specifically implemented, and how does it scale up?
Best regards,
Uriah
Post by: zzz on December 19, 2015, 08:01:09 am
Do you mean attaching the 'fire' method to a BONE joint? I asked for this too.
Yes. Basically letting geom have access to it too so that you can do this.geom.fire(..). Don't know why I had it in my head that lights could be added to different geom objects. Long time since I used them.
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Do you mean like GPS, radio position finding or other types of sensor targeting an object? This has been discussed, but importantly how is it specifically implemented, and how does it scale up?
Just some sort of global array that contains the ECEF coords of all objects loaded that other objects can access.
Post by: Dharma Initiative on December 23, 2015, 03:07:48 pm
Post by: HiFlyer on December 23, 2015, 03:50:57 pm
Well Concerning this new nvidia driver issue ! i guess you guys who ever is in charge of development of this software will have to either fix this bug or we'll all have to sit and patienly wait for another nvidia driver release hoping that the next driver will take this issue away ! one of the two ! i mean seriously all other games work perfectly and much faster and better having tested a few others ! so i don't know what would you guys out there in charge do to fix this ! but otherwise good luck to all and happy merry christmass and happy new :)
I retreated to the previous driver.
Post by: Dharma Initiative on December 23, 2015, 09:47:47 pm
Post by: KW71 on December 23, 2015, 09:54:15 pm
Yes, in the Nvidia page.
Post by: pedropp222 on February 28, 2016, 09:06:03 am
so... there's been a long while without any updates. What is going on?
Post by: josem75 on February 28, 2016, 09:38:58 am
*bump*
so... there's been a long while without any updates. What is going on?
It seems that we will have an update in the next few days/week.
Post by: PRiME on February 28, 2016, 11:18:00 am
Post by: Acetone on February 28, 2016, 11:52:57 am
Do you think the release of Vulkan might see some nice changes for Outerra? they could make a Windows AND Linux version now with the same API (and other platforms, even android). I thought it be a good idea to ditch OpenGL at somepoint.
See Cameni's post here:
http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg40107#msg40107
Tl;Dr : Vulkan improves some elements compared to OGL, but these are not important for OT. It might improve driver stability or maybe not, but it would require a lot of rework to get it working.
Post by: Rudeboy1988 on February 28, 2016, 04:23:00 pm
Can you give me a latest offline update? I can`t use autoupdate Outerra.
Post by: cameni on February 28, 2016, 04:29:56 pm
Can you give me a latest offline update? I can`t use autoupdate Outerra.
Anteworld-0.8.4.5948.patch-6018.exe (http://planet.anteworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-0.8.4.5948.patch-6018.exe)
Post by: Rudeboy1988 on February 28, 2016, 04:47:16 pm
Thank you very much!Can you give me a latest offline update? I can`t use autoupdate Outerra.
Anteworld-0.8.4.5948.patch-6018.exe (http://planet.anteworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-0.8.4.5948.patch-6018.exe)
Post by: 2eyed on March 25, 2016, 06:43:43 am
... well I know, it's done when it's done, but at least a little teaser (screenshot) would be neat.
Post by: Dharma Initiative on March 25, 2016, 12:10:23 pm
Post by: Dharma Initiative on March 25, 2016, 12:26:56 pm
Post by: cameni on March 25, 2016, 03:05:19 pm
Um Sir ! This update that you provided : Anteworld-0.8.4.5948.patch-6018 isn't isntalling says error opening updater.exe and so on ! i tried in every location in my hdd , in my user profile folder , but nothing, says error opening .. am i doing something wrong ? Thanx a lot in advance...
You already have that update, it's not a new one. That link was provided just for people who can't use autoupdate for some reason.
Hi cameni, how about a nice little "Happy Easter" surprise ...
... well I know, it's done when it's done, but at least a little teaser (screenshot) would be neat.
Ok, cooking something for Easter 8)
Post by: 2eyed on March 25, 2016, 04:39:45 pm
Sounds promising :)Um Sir ! This update that you provided : Anteworld-0.8.4.5948.patch-6018 isn't isntalling says error opening updater.exe and so on ! i tried in every location in my hdd , in my user profile folder , but nothing, says error opening .. am i doing something wrong ? Thanx a lot in advance...
You already have that update, it's not a new one. That link was provided just for people who can't use autoupdate for some reason.Hi cameni, how about a nice little "Happy Easter" surprise ...
... well I know, it's done when it's done, but at least a little teaser (screenshot) would be neat.
Ok, cooking something for Easter 8)
Post by: cameni on March 26, 2016, 03:51:51 am
Post by: HiFlyer on March 26, 2016, 04:04:32 am
New version branch http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3547.0
Looks Awesome. Downloading!