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Title: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: cameni on December 02, 2015, 12:40:13 pm
New video made for I/ITSEC posted by Titan CEO David Lagettie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkRngc7yIKY
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: HiFlyer on December 02, 2015, 01:53:45 pm
Very very nice!
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: KW71 on December 02, 2015, 02:52:25 pm
Destructible vehicles! Rain! Cities! ... Great!!!  :D
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: Acetone on December 02, 2015, 04:02:43 pm
Really nice work :)
The cities at the end of the video are giving a new definition to the word "scale" :D
The grey buildings are generated using the OSM data, right?
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: DenisJ on December 02, 2015, 04:57:47 pm
Just. Awesome.
Glad to hear some news after such a long period of silence.
I'm wondering, is the technique of global road and cities generation licensed for/by Titan exclusively or are we, Outerra users, gonna have a chance to try out these features anytime soon?
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: PytonPago on December 02, 2015, 06:58:39 pm
Hitboxes and ambient life ! :D
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: zombie00 on December 02, 2015, 07:11:43 pm
Quote from: cameni on December 02, 2015, 12:40:13 pm
New video made for I/ITSEC posted by Titan CEO David Lagettie

I'm not sure my body can take all this hype!
Bloody fantastic. Still a way to go for something "playable" and yes, I know that's not necessarily the scope of Titan, but still, very impressive. Just to be sure, this guys will be working on a game ala ARMA too, right? Because if they have the exclusive use of Outerra as a military simulator and they don't make a game out of this a potential joint-operation game on Outerra could see a complicated start-off doesn't it? Not to mention they would be missing on some money, if ARMA has thought us anything is: Throw some zombies on it and people will buy it like hot bread There is market for complex military simulators on the PC gaming community.

Anyway, thanks for sharing and for all the work, things were indeed rather quiet as of late.
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: Occams Razer on December 03, 2015, 03:48:07 am
Well, there's certainly a lot of cool stuff in this video. If even 10% of it makes it into Outerra by June, I'll be satisfied.

Now, quick question: Near the start of the video, one of the soldiers enters a building. Is that purely demonstrative, or is there a more complex (non-convex) collision system in play here?
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: konaone on December 03, 2015, 06:35:12 am
Sorry, maybe I already widely talked and I gave it a miss.
Outerra use? and you will be sold or not?
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: zombie00 on December 03, 2015, 08:48:54 am
Quote from: konaone on December 03, 2015, 06:35:12 am
Sorry, maybe I already widely talked and I gave it a miss.
Outerra use? and you will be sold or not?

Yes, Titan runs on Outerra engine and for what I understand part of the development is being done along with the Outerra team.
I'm not sure if they are going to sell it to civilians, the main goal of Titan is military use (like VBS simulator). I hope they will go the same route as they did with VBS and end up developing/co-developing a sim-like game for general consumers (like the ARMA series).
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: Revolver on December 03, 2015, 10:28:19 am
look very nice...

https://youtu.be/jXfJO6M2h2U
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: cameni on December 04, 2015, 06:53:45 am
Quote from: Acetone on December 02, 2015, 04:02:43 pm
The grey buildings are generated using the OSM data, right?

Presumably, though Titan may be using also some other sources.

Quote from: DenisJ on December 02, 2015, 04:57:47 pm
I'm wondering, is the technique of global road and cities generation licensed for/by Titan exclusively or are we, Outerra users, gonna have a chance to try out these features anytime soon?

It's not exclusive to Titan. We imported the roads from OSM for them, and are currently working on enhancing and cleaning it up before we can release a preview of them in OT. For Titan the original test was about how the engine will handle a global road network, because in some other engines the amount of roads greatly affects the performance.
However, the alpha import didn't implement road connecting and fixing OSM errors in any way, so their demos (beyond the performance one) had to do lots of manual corrections, or selected camera views.

Cities were imported by Titan from OSM, creating instance data. We are working on our own import process that will also handle the LODs and can be later extended by a procedural building generator or at least a procedural run-time matching of building collections to imported base building info from OSM, instead of relying on hard-wired model matching during the import.

Quote from: zombie00 on December 02, 2015, 07:11:43 pm
Just to be sure, this guys will be working on a game ala ARMA too, right? Because if they have the exclusive use of Outerra as a military simulator and they don't make a game out of this a potential joint-operation game on Outerra could see a complicated start-off doesn't it? Not to mention they would be missing on some money, if ARMA has thought us anything is: Throw some zombies on it and people will buy it like hot bread There is market for complex military simulators on the PC gaming community.

I can't comment on their plans, but yes it would be a logical step.
Note that they do not have exclusivity for military simulators, just for the use of OT in software for the military user. A consumer military game/sim can be made by someone else as well.

Quote from: Occams Razer on December 03, 2015, 03:48:07 am
Near the start of the video, one of the soldiers enters a building. Is that purely demonstrative, or is there a more complex (non-convex) collision system in play here?

I think one of the Titan partners, Intelligent Decisions (http://www.intelligent.net/simulation-training/case-studies?q=simulation-training/case-studies/soldier-training-system), wants to use it for their soldier simulation program where complex interaction is required. It's already possible to create compound collision shapes for objects in OT.

Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: zombie00 on December 04, 2015, 04:29:17 pm
Quote from: cameni on December 04, 2015, 06:53:45 am
I can't comment on their plans, but yes it would be a logical step.
Note that they do not have exclusivity for military simulators, just for the use of OT in software for the military user. A consumer military game/sim can be made by someone else as well.


Oh, I thought it was for any military-ish project regardless of it being used by actual forces or just for civilian use. Good to hear, still, strictly from a business point of view, If I was a dev I wouldn't jump into a TITANIC (no pun intended) project to make my own military simulator game with all the work that implies when some professional simulator has everything pre-cooked and ready to jump into my niche market. I really hope you're right and they go for it, ARMA isn't a good game form a technical point of view and they could easily take away their market with the right approach.

Also, I thought the OSM database was a no go, good to see you guys are working on it. Maybe I missed this part too, but anything on train rails? Any data base that could be used for that?
Having a functional train infrastructure could make for a fun gameplay element on future games.
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: Grind and Click on December 05, 2015, 11:27:06 am
Looking forward to seeing where this all goes.

Been hoping for an MMO mil-sim type game from this since the beginning. Imagine using the Star Citizen model, where you buy say an Aircraft Carrier for 100 - $200 or abouts, or purchase a base somewhere and launch global missions against other players from vehicles purchased separately just like DCS World, fighting over resources or something. 
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: cameni on December 08, 2015, 04:39:55 am
Quote from: zombie00 on December 04, 2015, 04:29:17 pm
Also, I thought the OSM database was a no go, good to see you guys are working on it. Maybe I missed this part too, but anything on train rails? Any data base that could be used for that?
Having a functional train infrastructure could make for a fun gameplay element on future games.

OSM is indeed quite problematic because of many issues and classification versions contained within it, but Pasto is fighting the dragon using some auxiliary data, or simply skipping parts that aren't usable.

There are also rails recorded, and they should be usable to the same degree as the roads.
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: HiFlyer on December 21, 2015, 10:35:31 pm
TitanIM facebook site. Some interesting pictures, there. https://www.facebook.com/Titan-IM-Pty-Ltd-1556082334621561/
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: cameni on December 25, 2015, 12:17:27 pm
TitanIM report from I/ITSEC 2015

http://titanim.net/www/index.php/component/k2/item/36
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: Acetone on December 25, 2015, 05:48:22 pm
Some additional info on the Calytrix website:

#1]http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8&id=0ac724682a&e=[UNIQID]#1 (http://us7.campaign-archive2.com/?u=41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8&id=0ac724682a&e=[UNIQID)

A few pictures:

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/edaf817f-d0df-466c-82d2-d129db83c5be.jpg)(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/7470499f-54b4-4198-a50d-0f230cd944b2.jpg)
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/eb7a0108-c3f8-4d4e-a53a-7d109d321f66.jpg)(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/7015f087-0d76-43d8-8a52-1b6a35fbee93.jpg)
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/0916c9ca-632f-41ca-9e1c-837e29eede42.jpg)(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/80ae0308-6e8f-4e70-ab23-72356ea6cc2e.jpg)
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/ea47cc66-5373-42c3-b73a-667eb485a5df.jpg)(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/dc3463d1-389c-4728-b6d1-106b0bf4a185.jpg)









Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: Revolver on December 25, 2015, 07:57:07 pm
Hey PP, have you sold your Ural them? =D

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/ddaa0f0c-db83-4e0e-9c8b-c4108ae02416.jpg)

@Cameni

Brano, this to be understood it so that they make (TitanIM) only for the military, or am I wrong here with the thought?
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: PytonPago on December 26, 2015, 02:22:20 am
"EAP Europe * -  March 7th 2016, Location TBA
EAP USA * - March 21st 2016, Orlando
ITEC 2016 - May 17-19, 2016, London
Developers Workshop * - May 23-24, 2016, United Kingdom
Eurosatory 2016 - June 13-17, 2016, Paris, France
Land Forces 2016 - September 6-8, 2016, Adelaide, Australia
SimTecT 2016 - September 26-29, 2016, Melbourne, Australia
IITSEC 2016 - Nov 30th to Dec 3rd 2016, Orlando, Florida"

 ... quite some showecase they plan ... also, like those pits (just what id like to see in a game) :

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/41dfa57fb4b36bc68cf3e94a8/images/80ae0308-6e8f-4e70-ab23-72356ea6cc2e.jpg)
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: LeeP on December 26, 2015, 06:16:50 am
Wow very impressive !!! This Sim amazes me every time with the potential that it has.
Do the maps and models load and unload to conserve computing power like the trees do?   
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: aWac9 on December 26, 2015, 06:37:12 am
I want that goat, ambulance, tractor is in the background, since !!!!!,, ...  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: LeeP on December 26, 2015, 07:16:10 am
I really like the idea of a MMP but without all the over the head names of players!! No names floating all over the place to see where everybody is.
Only when you switch to a HUD with the Drones view, or what ever is giving the intel. Then you have to switch back to line of sight, like reality.

That would be very cool !
Title: Re: Titan I/ITSEC 2015
Post by: mercenar1e on December 28, 2015, 04:37:51 am
Quote from: cameni on December 04, 2015, 06:53:45 am
Quote from: Acetone on December 02, 2015, 04:02:43 pm

I can't comment on their plans, but yes it would be a logical step.
Note that they do not have exclusivity for military simulators, just for the use of OT in software for the military user. A consumer military game/sim can be made by someone else as well.



but very few of the graphical or game play features would carry over to the consumer version which means the developers would need to start "fresh"

in other words.. it will take years lol