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Outerra Engine => Off Topic => Topic started by: mctash on October 01, 2011, 08:58:08 am
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Hey guys,
Has anyone else tried the BF3 beta? Just interested what your thoughts are on the game itself and the new battlelog thingy.
McTash
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I finally got to play it on my new rig yesterday after trying to help EA find a solution to the Battlelog login issues a lot of people were having. I missed my early access and they took down the Caspian Border servers so that sucks. :'( It runs really smoothly on a GTX 570 Superclocked and a i7 2600K at absolute max settings, but I haven't done anything to figure out my exact framerate yet. There's a couple of minor graphical issues like the screen flashes occasionally like a lighting/shader bug or something plus Vsync doesn't seem to work. It runs smooth though.
Then there's the lag. It took me like 4 tries for it to put me in a server than wasn't extremely laggy for me. You can't see the server ping or sort by server ping yet in the Battlelog though it does have a Ping column that just has "--" for every server at the moment.
Like most maps it can be frustrating at first when you don't know the layout of the map, but soon it becomes fun. As for Operation Metro though... I'm not a huge fan of the map. I'm looking forward to the huge maps myself. Operation Metro for me gets old fairly quickly, especially the subway section. I'll probably play it for a while each day still, but having only that map kind of sucks.
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I updated my nvidia drivers to the beta release that supports BF 3 better but its crash city for me. Always the really nasty type with pine cone syndrome across my displays requiring the reset button to restart. Battlelog also annoys me. I'd like to have a server browser in game aswell.
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You aren't overheating or clocking too high? Do you have a good enough power supply?
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maybe, its an old 9800 gtx. Power supply is new Coolermaster 500w. No power supply needed for card so it should be ok. Its not clocked up or down. Also, have you seen the 200 player servers that are popping up. It appears the server files have leaked :) Stay away though, from what i gather it looks like EA are threatening with bans if you join them.
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200 Players on Operation Metro?! x.x
Also, how the heck are you expecting to run BF3 on a 9800? :o
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Ah yes, well i realised the trusty 9800 gtx may be a "small bottleneck" ( :) ) in my new system. Other than that its a 3.7ghz quad with 8 gig ram. So i was hoping to play on low.
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And, of course, there's the whole BF3 vs MW3 debate. The heat is already going up in that debate. The most important point to me is that from Hutch's account, MW3 is just like MW2. And that's disturbing people. The CoD franchise is at a critical point. With MW2 consigned to the trash bin, and Black Ops already heading that way too, this may be the point at which BF3 triumphs: according to a YouTube video, BF3 pre-orders are outselling MW3 pre-orders at Gamestop.
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Hey guys,
Has anyone else tried the BF3 beta? Just interested what your thoughts are on the game itself and the new battlelog thingy.
McTash
Battlefield 3 is going to be a great game.
Have you played "Caspian Border" when it was up? Great fun.
I even like "Operation Metro". Compared to other shooters that are out right now it rocks and its only the Beta.
I like Battlelog but I dont like to have to log in into both Origin and Battlelog to play the game.
Havent played on the 128+ servers but if DICE officially supports a higher player count later on its going to be epic. 8)
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Heck, I don't even play first person shooters and the Operation Metro map took my breath away. It's everything I would have put in a map.
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I missed Caspian Border and my early access because of a major activation key screw up that they had. >:(
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Yes, only 3 days with Caspian border is not enough time >:(!
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Any of you still playing this now that it's live? :)
FSGWire on Origin.
The guys I play with have a dedicated BF3 channel on TeamSpeak, and we have 2 32-man servers (One dedicated to Rush maps, the other to Conquest Hard Core).
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I was until the TF2 Halloween update came out last night. Been playing that all day. ATM I don't really care that I'm not playing BF3 because I'm waiting for them to fix the horrible lag problems.
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That's been my issue as well lol.
Try the servers for Full Spectrum Gaming. bf3serv1.fsgnetwork.com and bf3serv2.fsgnetwork.com (I think that's correct). FSGNetwork.com has the link to our servers. We're usually on around 6:00pm CST. The servers are relatively lag-free. Serv1 is Conquest Hard Cord, and Serv2 is Rush. Both 32 man maps. If anyone gives you any grief, tell them that Wire sent you, and he's going to be pissed if they don't treat you with respect :) (the guys are great, and won't generally give you a hard time, but it will make them laugh if you say that lol)
Poke me on Origin, and login to ts.fsgnetwork.com for voice chat. I'm "wire" on their Teamspeak, and even though I show up in the listing as "AFK" most of the time, I'm usually within reaching distance for the server, depending on my work schedule.
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I would love to play, but I freeze every time after 5 mins play with nasty scary red and blue artefacts. Tried every fix going lol, still no dice.
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What video card/drivers do you have installed? If I remember correctly, BF3 required the beta Nvidia drivers.
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I have the latest, but I think its my fossil 9800GT that may be causing the problems :)
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After seeing what a buggy glitchy crap BF3 is I can only applaud Outerra team striving to release quality product usable by everyone. You guys has some principles, unlike most major game development companies these times.
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I think it is a fun shooter.
Sure it has its bugs and it certainly is not flawless but IMO it is the best shooter out there right now (Red Orchestra 2 is not bad either but its different).
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After seeing what a buggy glitchy crap BF3 is I can only applaud Outerra team striving to release quality product usable by everyone. You guys has some principles, unlike most major game development companies these times.
The Beta was glitchy and frustrating, to be certain, but as the developers stated, it wasn't the release version of the game. I think the current release version has a LOT fewer bugs and is more fun to play than the Beta. I can still see some bugs and balance issues, but it's nothing out of the ordinary for any game release.
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After seeing what a buggy glitchy crap BF3 is I can only applaud Outerra team striving to release quality product usable by everyone. You guys has some principles, unlike most major game development companies these times.
The Beta was glitchy and frustrating, to be certain, but as the developers stated, it wasn't the release version of the game. I think the current release version has a LOT fewer bugs and is more fun to play than the Beta. I can still see some bugs and balance issues, but it's nothing out of the ordinary for any game release.
Truth is they rushed the game to cut some sales of MW3 pie, which is coming 8/11/2011. As a result, the game has literally hundreds of different problems experienced by thousands of people.
Another problem is that BF3 by design is a console game. Current maps are way too small, especially for 64 players (heck, it's even small for 32 players as well, even Caspian Border), and choke point is the most favorite map design element used by DICE level designers.
I really hope that Outerra team has different standards of quality, and wont release product with "good enough quality" like major companies are doing all the time last few years.
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After seeing what a buggy glitchy crap BF3 is I can only applaud Outerra team striving to release quality product usable by everyone. You guys has some principles, unlike most major game development companies these times.
The Beta was glitchy and frustrating, to be certain, but as the developers stated, it wasn't the release version of the game. I think the current release version has a LOT fewer bugs and is more fun to play than the Beta. I can still see some bugs and balance issues, but it's nothing out of the ordinary for any game release.
Truth is they rushed the game to cut some sales of MW3 pie, which is coming 8/11/2011. As a result, the game has literally hundreds of different problems experienced by thousands of people.
Another problem is that BF3 by design is a console game. Current maps are way too small, especially for 64 players (heck, it's even small for 32 players as well, even Caspian Border), and choke point is the most favorite map design element used by DICE level designers.
I really hope that Outerra team has different standards of quality, and wont release product with "good enough quality" like major companies are doing all the time last few years.
Absolutely 10000000% this
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I really hope that Outerra team has different standards of quality, and wont release product with "good enough quality" like major companies are doing all the time last few years.
I don't think you can compare it since we are going to use entirely different indie mode, releasing stuff in alpha state and providing updates all the way up to one marked "final", and then continuing ...
Major companies can do almost anything to you because in the end people will simply submit to the marketing. In fact, it may be MW3 that will be partly hit by the reflected wave of dissatisfaction over BF3, and BF3 guys are filling their coffers now.
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Very true. I'm considering writing a few articles regarding indy development, and how it differs from mainstream game development. The fact is, indy development is a lot more open and honest than mainstream development, and in my opinion leads to better communication with it's community. Take a look at Wolfire Games, and other such developers. As someone who's been on the "inside" of game development, it's definitely a step in the right direction, imho.
In regards to BF3 ... I think most of the negative feedback has come from the beta testing, which was NOT the final version of the game. After having played it the last few weeks, I can definitely see the disparity. The game is much more polished than before, and I enjoy it a lot more than what I did previously. Yes, there are still bugs, but they are no more nor less than what a typical game company faces. The problem is that players are much more critical than they used to be, and expect more than what is realistic.
I have a 3d artist friend who is in the gaming industry, and I've listened to his rants and raves ad nauseum. BF3 is NO different in it's bugs than any other game.
Cameni, and Angrypig, have fostered one of the best online communities I've seen in 12 years (and I do this for a living). The lengths they go to is hands down the most impressive feat I've seen so far, and I will forever be grateful for that first email I sent to Cameni, asking specifics on the engine, and telling him my eventual goals for it :). Out of half a dozen engines I'd looked at, only Cameni even bothered to talk to me about it.
That gives Outerra a +10 in my book, if not more ... even if I have to wait two or three more years before everything's in place for what I want.
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BF3 is NO different in it's bugs than any other game.
I think this is most important to note. I have been a huge fan of the BF series since 1942 and have played all of them apart from BC1 because it was console only.
Probably my biggest issue with BF3 is that it was clearly geared somewhat toward console players. I'm mainly talking about the controls for vehicles, which are obviously dumbed down. You can almost see a trend of difficulty in controls going down since the helicopters in Desert Combat(granted, this wasn't DICE). Seriously, one of the worst things to happen to game difficulty and complexity is the console(or maybe the "average" console player).
That being said, I made a point of bumping the topic in the Battlelog forums about vehicle controls and how noob they felt. It looks like they did change it up a bit, so I would say at least someone is listening.
For now, I'll get my shoot-em-up fix from BF3, my realism fix from Arma 2 and my helicopter flying fix from Take-on Helicopters(Or Outerra, though the rudder doesn't seem to work too well).
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For now, I'll get my shoot-em-up fix from BF3, my realism fix from Arma 2 and my helicopter flying fix from Take-on Helicopters(Or Outerra, though the rudder doesn't seem to work too well).
That's exactly what I do now. Play a bit of BF3 for fun, then hop onto Arma when I feel like playing seriously.
But I really doubt that DICE will ever return to the BF2/MC style of game as they don't really appeal to the mass market, even though they're great games.
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I have it, and it lags worse than beta and alpha because the server doesn't show ping and people who lags FOR REAL THE SERVER don't get kicked. The mp for me it's an epic fail until they fix this.
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I have it, and it lags worse than beta and alpha because the server doesn't show ping and people who lags FOR REAL THE SERVER don't get kicked. The mp for me it's an epic fail until they fix this.
They rolled out a patch the other day for this... I was just filtering for region before that, but yeah, you can see pings now.
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The pings of THE SERVERS. But most of the times servers with 80 of ping looks like 400 of ping, and in the other games i have pings around 40-80 and 4-5 weeks passed but still no client patch... EA policy I just lost 50€