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User mods, screenshots & videos => Aircraft => Topic started by: fly77 on February 26, 2020, 05:13:20 am
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After a long time here is a new upgrade of the mig29.
It adds several special effects including jet exhaust smoke trail at high thrust
, wingtip condensation trails and over-wing condensation.
These three effects add a lot of fun and realism to the mig29 flying in outerra as you will notice.
You can see how it looks in the demonstrative video below but you'd better try yourself
to enjoy how it "feels" ! :)
Besides I decided to greatly simplify the camera views for better use.
download the mod from here
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cao0k75wk4e6sqj/AAA4uVsE6Rs4UuveqLrcmcM0a?dl=0
presentation video:
https://youtu.be/D-9y-G3HpBo
Installation:
click on self-extracting mig29-fly77-upgrade.otx file
The new model will overwrite my old mig29 fly-by mod
so that you don't have too many different models
and will appear in airplane menu (F3) as mig29-fly77 icons
Simplified camera views:
I have reduced the first person camera views to four for better useability.
They are accessible by repeatedly pressing the v-key are now only 4:
- cockpit view
- gear view
- flyby camera
- formation flight camera
important:
- press H or J keys to increase / decrease the flyby range.
- press numpad +/- keys to zoom in/out in all camer views
known bug: when taking off in flyby camera view mode for a yet unknown reason sometimes the engine thrust gets switched off in this view mode after the plane has bypassed the camera.
A short explanation of what causes these effects:
Wingtip condensation trails are due to vortices of rotating air left behind a wing as it generates lift
The vortices are sometimes visible because atmospheric water vapor present in them condenses.
Most commonly this occurs on fighterjets flying at high angles of attack in high g maneuvers.
Condensation over wing surfaces is vapor condensing into fog above the wing-surfaces
when flying at high angles of attack or in high g maneuvers and occurs because of an extra-strong depression
over the wings that makes the atmospheric water vapor condense.
Both are more persistent and intense when the atmospheric humidity is higher.
In the mod I used the cloud-coverage as a scale of humidity in the air:
So with more clouds you will see both effects form easier, persist longer and appear more intense.
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Hi Marco!
Gratuliere, Gute Arbeit! Jetzt sollst du noch den Nachbrenner Rauch/Flamme möglichst nah an realen anpassen lassen.
Dann wird's in jede Hinsicht perfekt sein. ;)
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Danke Revolver ! Weitere upgrades sind in Bearbeitung. ;)
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Today 27/2/2020 I have slightly tuned the intensity of the effects reducing them to make them more realistic - as they eventually were too intense/frequent. So please redownload from above.
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it doesn't install me .. I've looked in the folder and I don't see it >:(
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Sorry ..I had zipped it with wrong folder structure. so it unzipped by mistake into outerra/flyby-withsmoke-trails-2020 folder (delete it!)
I have corrected it ..so Redownload again now
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very good fly77, it's great .. we will make some videos to enjoy it. I'll ask you for things, we'll see if we are able to make a more continuous wake, and some more effect.
Thank you very much for your time
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OK great ! I'm glad you like it. More continuous wake - especially at high speeds - with the current smoke system seems a little difficult to me, but I can continue to experiment. Especially I want to add afterburner flame in the future. Other suggestions are wellcome :)
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maybe sonic boom breaking soundbarrier effect ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/90QG8PMX/Sound-Barrier-735x413.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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that would not be bad.jejejeje. but we settle for less, yours is well done, I was only referring to the shape or smoke or the trail of condensation.
But your work is well done, I just try to encourage you to improve yourself :)
https://youtu.be/v0kvet3x3WE
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I wished I had a stable fly-by camera or ground camera.. still could not get a really stable one in outerra.
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It would be fun to get that shockwave condensation effect when the speed of sound is exceeded ... dare you?
A small test, to combine progress with the pleasure of flying.
https://youtu.be/_rmSy4ISEEQ
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Its addictive :) I suggest you to press several times the H key to get a larger time of flyby..as you fly very fast. Also if you want to see more smoke and condensation increase cloud coverage (humidity)..but I know you like to fly in sunny weather ;)
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I wished I had a stable fly-by camera or ground camera.. still could not get a really stable one in outerra.
I have found how to do it !!! much better visuals ! Will optimize it for best use and also add a fixed ground camera at this point ! Airshows are within reach now ! Everything to come in the next upgrade ..with some of the mentioned additional & improved effects :)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCY04jsr/stable-flyby-camera.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpMNtBqm)
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Here (re-download from above) is a new mig29 upgrade !
https://youtu.be/c3GPyZwkI44
As promised I have implemented now
- corrected wingtip vortices and wing-condensation effects
- improved thrust smoke trail
- MOST IMPORTANTLY: a new reliable and really stable
fly-by camera as it is found in commercial flight-simulators.[/color]
The improved fly-camera is a game changer since it allows you to
fly the plane like a remote-controlled plane, observing it from
a fixed camera position during all its maneuvers, so effectively
enabling airshows !
For the "airshow mode" increase the fly-by range sufficiently by pressing repeatedly (2 or 3 times or more) The H-key !!
Also use the NUMPAD +/- keys to zoom in when the plane is making its maneouvers at a large distance
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Fly77 well done, although I have to admit that I have not yet mastered this camera, at first I gave the H so many times that I appeared in the stratosphere ... I guess I will have to go practicing.
Great job fly77. thanks ... I think I have some other challenge for you ... :) we will see it.
https://youtu.be/DfwuLVK7p7I
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Great ! I am glad you like it. It takes some time to get used to fly the jet "in remote" ..I also crashed a lot in the beginning..but you will learn quickly. Note that each time vthe camera view is changed by pressing V or C the flyby range and zoom are reset to default so that you don't get lost. So if you think the plane is too far away in any view switch to any other view by pressing C or V or shift-V to go backwards in the camera sequence. ENJOY ! :)
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Another tip - if you didn't already notice by yourself : if you want a bigger or smaller flyby range you need to do the H or J key presses BEFORE you switch with v to the flyby camera view. That should be obvious..as you first SET the range before you use it
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Another mayor improvement would be better engine sounds..unfortunately I have no knowledge so far of how engine sounds are modulated with thrust..approach speed ( doppler effect) etc. In the new MS 2020 they will also be directionally modulated. Would be great if also in outerra there were the possibilities to program sounds in such a way.
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I don't get a fixed camera position. and I press the H key several times, even if it abuses pressing it many times it sends you to space .. as seen in the video.
Fly77 Is it possible that the user chooses (mouse) the position of the camera just as a viewer would do in a stand and leave it stuck or fixed? something similar to what we did with the keys "uppercase + ESC" but with mobility not with the mouse wheel.
https://youtu.be/mDEkJ0OtiuQ
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How many times did you press H to get catapulted i to space ? Pressing 2 or 3 or max 4 times should be sufficient. Each time you press H the range is increased 1.5 times so 4 times gived 1.5*1.5*1.5*1.5=3.375 times the initial range. I never got into space even pressing 5 , 6 or 7 times H. if it happens to you maybe its something with your outerra settings. ..(if I remember its something that happened to you also in other circumstances..right ?) or you pressed too fast. Try pressing H several times but not so fast one after another.
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The camera is fixed in the sense that it remains located in the same poition but it automatically tracks the plane. If you like I can make an option to disable the automatic plane tracking so that you can freely look around with the mouse and maybe with arrow keys move the camera around (kind of ufo-mode..but while keeping control of the plane) ...no guarantee I can make it..but its worth experimenting.
However I think for flying aerobatics its better that the camera automatically tracks the plane so that you can concentrate on doing your maneuvers instead of having to control the plane with one hand and the camera with the other hand (mouse)....anyway it could be useful for other things
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Hint for airshow flying:
To best use the H key for aerobatics (where you need a large flyby range) start by flying horizontally levelled at medium speed then press H key several times 4 or 5 or more ..keep your plane flying straight until the plane from far away aproaches the camera. Then start your aerobatics.