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Anteworld - Outerra Game => Tech demo, support, updates => Topic started by: cameni on August 08, 2020, 01:17:40 pm

Title: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 08, 2020, 01:17:40 pm
New reworked 64-bit version with global imagery and forest maps, city dataset, 3D trees and more.

(https://i.imgur.com/igzDHWM.jpg)

Anteworld-20.0.1.13485.exe (https://outerraworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-20.0.1.13485.exe) (EU server)
Anteworld-20.0.1.13485.exe (https://us.outerraworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-20.0.1.13485.exe) (US server)

20.0.1.13485 (hotfix) (25 Mar 2021)
20.0.0.13063 (22 Oct 2020)
20.0.0.12891 (8 Sep 2020)
20.0.0.12746
20.0.0.12718
20.0.0.12677

Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: josem75 on August 08, 2020, 01:29:54 pm
New reworked 64-bit version with global imagery and forest maps, city dataset, 3D trees and more.

Anteworld-20.0.0.12677.exe (http://outerraworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-20.0.0.12677.exe) (EU server)
Anteworld-20.0.0.12677.exe (https://us.outerraworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-20.0.0.12677.exe) (US server)

20.0.0.12677
* 64-bit version
* 3D trees
* global city dataset
* global imagery resolution 20m (adjustable, default 40m, demo mode 160m)
* forest map resolution 10m (adjustable, default 20m, demo mode 80m)
* dynamic environment reflections
* cloud shadows
* global weather from captured satellite data
* scriptable scenery objects
* ...
Firsst. Damm. I just though now.. Ohh its weekend, august.. If Cameni launch an important update today is a tipical day for do  :D
This, together with the latest clues.. Coverall the post about 64 bit version problem.
So i entered the forum and saw the new post "latest versioN". Then i knew i was right annd the happines arrived
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 08, 2020, 01:39:56 pm
hurray !!   :D

(https://media.giphy.com/media/uJMJqrhX4Onra/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: 2eyed on August 08, 2020, 02:03:49 pm
Woohaa!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: booz on August 08, 2020, 02:54:48 pm
BIG THANK YOU!!!!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 08, 2020, 03:17:33 pm

Thank you, thank you very much .... an authentic gem ..
It still needs to be configured, I have noticed that when I change from MSAA-8X it gives me shadow when turning, but we will have time to get it ready.
a good job from outerra and her team ... hopefully success will come soon.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 08, 2020, 04:02:24 pm
Now if only my power would stay on (and my computer not die from this).
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 08, 2020, 05:35:03 pm

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50204035392_6577bdcf88_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jumND7)error 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2jumND7) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: inactive on August 08, 2020, 08:52:44 pm
https://youtu.be/3GwjfUFyY6M
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 08, 2020, 10:48:53 pm
I'll probably be done before an answer, but I'm probably gonna do a fresh install (not update).  (That might be the only option for the 64-bit version anyways?  And I should probably do it anyways.)

Should I delete my previous Outerra files - would anything cause a potential conflict?  (coming from 32-bit of course.) (I'd like to make sure my graphics settings reset too.)

Would the new Imagery and Tree "resolutions" (tweaking them up) cause performance decrease (on the client), or is that an effect on download size really?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: NIESTICH on August 08, 2020, 10:51:17 pm
YAAAAAAAAS,Finally.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: inactive on August 08, 2020, 11:00:17 pm
nvm solved
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on August 09, 2020, 12:04:02 am
Praise be to Jeebus!

Clean install for this little black duck.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 09, 2020, 12:45:33 am
Aw, still can't see the oak in my old front yard with the highest resolution.

But also :'( buildings are still almost nonexistent in my area (or most areas) until I drove through a specific town that had a bunch.

Hartford had a lot more buildings to see, but there's still a lot of empty patches there as well.


I'm getting some very loud audio glitches on occasion, SO YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.


How do I know that the weather is set to Realworld?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on August 09, 2020, 01:16:27 am
Aw, still can't see the oak in my old front yard with the highest resolution.

But also :'( buildings are still almost nonexistent in my area (or most areas) until I drove through a specific town that had a bunch.

Hartford had a lot more buildings to see, but there's still a lot of empty patches there as well.


I'm getting some very loud audio glitches on occasion, SO YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.


How do I know that the weather is set to Realworld?

The buildings are generic in my part of the world, but you're right, there are a lot of empty patches.

I too have noticed the audio glitches

As for the weather... go outside? :D

----------------------------

This new update REQUIRES an SSD, there is too much data for a mechanical HDD to keep up.

Cameni, I take it railways, bridges and tunnels aren't ready yet?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 09, 2020, 04:13:01 am
we have gained something but we have lost something.
I have to look at it better ,, the clouds have to be improved, but the most important thing for me ,, is to always find the sensation of reality, that you are there, and that you can be confused with the environment ,
 the trees are amazing .. wonderful

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50204724433_4392fc006b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juqkt8)paro airport 7 (https://flic.kr/p/2juqkt8) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50204724488_6273ee0534_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juqku5)paro airport 8 (https://flic.kr/p/2juqku5) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205281301_b2eec0e15f_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jutc1i)observ_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2jutc1i) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205558417_f30876478a_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juuBoa)observ_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2juuBoa) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on August 09, 2020, 05:46:16 am
we have gained something but we have lost something.
I have to look at it better ,, the clouds have to be improved, but the most important thing for me ,, is to always find the sensation of reality, that you are there, and that you can be confused with the environment ,
 the trees are amazing .. wonderful

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50204724433_4392fc006b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juqkt8)paro airport 7 (https://flic.kr/p/2juqkt8) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50204724488_6273ee0534_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juqku5)paro airport 8 (https://flic.kr/p/2juqku5) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205281301_b2eec0e15f_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jutc1i)observ_02 (https://flic.kr/p/2jutc1i) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50205558417_f30876478a_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juuBoa)observ_01 (https://flic.kr/p/2juuBoa) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr

I think it has to do with the different terrain imagery used in earth8.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 09, 2020, 06:27:02 am
How do I know that the weather is set to Realworld?

in environment you need be sure that dynamic weather is set on. It reports global weather from 2018 only
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 09, 2020, 11:33:03 am
How do I know that the weather is set to Realworld?

in environment you need be sure that dynamic weather is set on. It reports global weather from 2018 only

Aw, not this year? (or at least last)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: maddy on August 09, 2020, 01:06:15 pm
Hi, this is a great release that I'm waiting for since several years. Finally my home city is now completely equipped with buildings. Thanks for this update!

One question: Spawning vehicles via F3 isn't possible for me. If I press F3 I see only this small icon:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rlTmWqAgxQ8/XzAsx6K0mcI/AAAAAAABXGA/XZlnuBw3lkk3LcBLvOlMhpGgzL10qUBAACPcBGAsYHg/s1600/vehicle%2Bspawn.jpg)

Is this a known bug or did I make something wrong?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 09, 2020, 01:14:20 pm
If I press F3 I see only this small icon:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rlTmWqAgxQ8/XzAsx6K0mcI/AAAAAAABXGA/XZlnuBw3lkk3LcBLvOlMhpGgzL10qUBAACPcBGAsYHg/s1600/vehicle%2Bspawn.jpg)
Is this a known bug or did I make something wrong?

Seems like a bug but its easily solved. You need to expand it picking the triangle in the right bottom corner. Next time you open outerra pressing F3 it will pop up the right size.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 09, 2020, 01:32:13 pm
joystick axes cannot be set, nor fly cessna..........
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 09, 2020, 01:46:20 pm
joystick axes cannot be set, nor fly cessna..........

I have no problem with the joystick & cessna  ...don't use my cessna mod though ..it needs "repair" to be used with this version ...as do most/all of my mods  :'(

(https://i.postimg.cc/fyzPMBG8/flyearth8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gX7sDqkh)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: maddy on August 09, 2020, 01:56:54 pm
[...]
Seems like a bug but its easily solved. You need to expand it picking the triangle in the right bottom corner. Next time you open outerra pressing F3 it will pop up the right size.
Aww thanks. Sometimes the solution is that simple. You can now also spawn an avatar. Was that already with the earth7 version? Then I missed it.

The mercenary doesn't work for me. But the swat and the ybot are okay and I could also use them in vehicles. This release is awesome.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7P4aUwTgz_o/XzA3GEpjdoI/AAAAAAABXHw/6hv50MSSKfkJqL5cAZhwMWRpVv7lI5shwCPcBGAsYHg/s1920/Outerra%2BEarth%2B8.jpg)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 09, 2020, 02:31:42 pm
It was that ,,, your cessnafly did not suit me. Thank you
even though I still can't configure the F12 joystick  :( :(
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 09, 2020, 02:33:09 pm
..The mercenary doesn't work for me either...floating in mid air....but if you open the editor (F7) and grab it you can place it with his feet on the ground..then exiting F7 he will walk "normally"...well walking ...but not nicely  =|....or place it where you like..just for some hilarious screenshots ...This is a kidnapping...without guns ! :D

(https://i.postimg.cc/59qt2yCG/kidnapping.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/23yYHzTF)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 09, 2020, 02:38:56 pm
continues error,

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50207506052_855361a0e0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2juEAm5)continua el error (https://flic.kr/p/2juEAm5) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 09, 2020, 02:43:14 pm
Yeah, I got that shrunken window issue, at least after changing my resolution, as well (1680x1050).  I dragged the window from the bottom right corner to expand it.

Also, the Esc Menu (or whatever it was) still remains jagged and ugly, I think even after a restart.

I would also suggest doing or requiring a restart after changing the Imagery / Tree resolution settings as after I changed them I got some "this file doesn't exist" messages on the bottom afterwards, which might be fine (idk?), but do a restart.  At least I hope it downloads them and uses them instead of what I just already had loaded.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 09, 2020, 02:43:39 pm

"continues error"

Ar you sure you didn't again pick my cessna ? Its the error I get as well with my cessna...but all four default cessna spawn fine

Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 09, 2020, 05:55:31 pm
i did a clean install of ot8 only and the cessna generates without problems, but jostick F12 cannot be configured.error F12 ...key mapping does not work
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 10, 2020, 10:13:30 am
Hey ! no trains !....but at least 3D rail elements are there !  (in the editor as handplaceable elements)  and also some other of the procedural elements shown in devscreens ..like the well

(https://i.postimg.cc/hj5wg4ZZ/rails.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XG9xkWb9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/YSsK2xhx/well.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLYF2YbL)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 10, 2020, 12:47:08 pm
unfortunately outerra crashes very easily when trying to assembly some scenery with default assets in the editor (F7).  I sent a crash report.....hmmm seems to depend on my PC specs ...used memory approaching my 8 Gbytes of RAM ....  closing all applications besides outerra and using 40 m/20 m imagery/forest data instead of 20 m/10 m helps.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 10, 2020, 01:36:30 pm
outerra with a train in conditions is a joy, in itself that is a great game ..
how do I tunnel? and the bridges ??
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 10, 2020, 01:51:49 pm
everything seems there in the editor under assets:  ( I will try to figure out how to make a train mod :) )

(https://i.postimg.cc/VvQbTpPr/rails-bridges-tunnels.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RbMwxMC)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: grahamwell on August 10, 2020, 02:37:28 pm
Am I missing something or is there no VR support in this version?  If there is, how do you switch it on?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 10, 2020, 02:52:14 pm
This build doesn't have VR enabled yet, we didn't have all the issues fixed in time.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: Levi on August 10, 2020, 03:17:12 pm
Incredible work team!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/f9Rrghj6TDckb5nZZR/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: NIESTICH on August 10, 2020, 03:46:09 pm
is someone else having problems with the map overlay not working when selected the google layers tab,"this page can't load Google Maps correctly".
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 10, 2020, 03:51:49 pm
yes...same here...I guess they're allowed only to incorporate OSM in the engine
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on August 11, 2020, 01:49:53 am
I hope we can get a satellite image view option on the minimap again, since the Location window has that.  (hopefully without it running out of memory or whatever.)

Plus some sort of GPS ROUTING!

Too bad there aren't as many buildings around as I was hoping for.  :-[  But my computer hates me already.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: Sam on August 11, 2020, 06:41:19 am
New reworked 64-bit version with global imagery and forest maps, city dataset, 3D trees and more.

(https://i.imgur.com/igzDHWM.jpg)

Anteworld-20.0.0.12677.exe (http://outerraworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-20.0.0.12677.exe) (EU server)
Anteworld-20.0.0.12677.exe (https://us.outerraworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-20.0.0.12677.exe) (US server)

20.0.0.12677
* 64-bit version
* 3D trees
* global city dataset
* global imagery resolution 20m (adjustable, default 40m, demo mode 160m)
* forest map resolution 10m (adjustable, default 20m, demo mode 80m)
* dynamic environment reflections
* cloud shadows
* global weather from captured satellite data
* scriptable scenery objects
* ...

Mnohokrát vďaka Brano! Dobrú práca  :) 
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: HiFlyer on August 11, 2020, 08:46:04 am
I'm surprised this release did not coincide with some sort of demonstration video. There are one or two user made ones out there, but they are not a good advertisement, as the settings and fps seem quite low.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 11, 2020, 09:57:54 am
This is kind of a pre-release, basically serving as a wider beta-testing, so we can fix crashes and see possible hardware problems. Also checking how our new servers handle the load with the expected number of our (enthusiast) users.

Also, even though there's a couple of things added since the 2019 video, lots of stuff is "just" polishing and fixing of what was there.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12677 (64-bit)
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on August 12, 2020, 12:09:48 am
Congratulations to Cameni and Team

I was waiting for this from long time. I am a daily visitor to see new features, new bugs and creativity of enthusiasts. This is a big update. New city buildings, 3d trees just awesome.

Thank you very much
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on August 12, 2020, 10:52:47 pm
Just bug fixes in the .12718 update?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: sniperwolfpk5 on August 13, 2020, 12:12:08 am
Overall the latest build is really good. Performance is much better. Really like the new Outerra build. It would be really nice if they update sea water and patterns. Good job Outerra team
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: 2eyed on August 13, 2020, 11:16:29 am
A few thoughts on the new version(mainly on visuals): Congratulations to the devs, this is quite an achievement and performance is also good!
3d trees are a welcome addition and when set to max distance they generate a nice forest. I got the feeling that terrain shading for trees makes the ground a bit too dark up in the air and down between the trees as well.
 Overall the trees seem to be too blueish and do not fit so well with the terrain as their 2d predecessors. They also could have some specular highlights to make them more vivid; atm they look a little dull. The shading/ appearance of far distant (2d) trees looks like dull blobs, maybe this is a mipmap problem. The predecessors had a nicer lighting/shading.
MSAA does not work for me.
Water: I like the surf, it's definitely improved but the foam could last longer. The wave patterns are still too regular.
The environmental reflection kicks in only at short distances making water bodies often too bright.
Clouds: have too much bloom power, (depending on time and weather).
Place holder buildings: often too bright and do not look integrated in world. Some are very ugly.
All I want is to see a pretty Outerra! :D
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: lc94617 on August 14, 2020, 09:14:48 am
I don't know why can't I open the new version ,It crashed instantly when I open it.

CPU:i5 2450M
Memory%uFF1A8G DDR3
Graphics: AMD HD7690M /INTEL HD3000
Drivers:15.201.1151.1008/9.17.10.4459

Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 14, 2020, 12:56:21 pm
It's a driver crash. Try updating your AMD OpenGL drivers.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: lc94617 on August 14, 2020, 10:22:57 pm
It's a driver crash. Try updating your AMD OpenGL drivers.
My hardward is kind of old ,the latest drive version was released on 2015, and I have pass the compatibility check before the installing.Also,the previous version 17.1.0.11105 is totally work on the same hardware and graphic drivers.So, is any other possible problem to this issue?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 15, 2020, 12:49:46 am
New OT version requires a newer OpenGL version (OpenGL 4.2+extensions compared to 3.3 for the old one), and AMD drivers are notoriously buggy there. Even if they claim to support the features that the new build requires, and therefore pass the test in the installer, the drivers often simply crash when the feature is used. That's what seems to be happening here, a crash in the drivers and we have no way of working around that.

Unfortunately, AMD doesn't support the hardware anymore, hence there's no chance for us to support it either; you may only try disabling some features like 3D trees in world.cfg or eng.cfg. We can't even tell what feature is causing it to crash because AMD doesn't even support the driver binaries on their debug server anymore ...
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 15, 2020, 04:08:49 am
I get a crash whenever I exit a vehicle (for exampe default SM11 bus) and then move up in the sky in ufo mode  :(
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 15, 2020, 06:41:18 am
We are going through the crash reports and fixing what we can. There's a considerable number of out-of-memory errors though, both for system and GPU memory. Likely not your case here.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: pico on August 16, 2020, 06:03:46 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/zR5mJH6/outerra-2020-08-16-23-36-19.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jM58RZJ)

The new update is really great.  :)

I like the lighting when it's raining but is it possible to deactivate the raindrops?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on August 17, 2020, 03:40:07 am
(https://i.ibb.co/zR5mJH6/outerra-2020-08-16-23-36-19.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jM58RZJ)

The new update is really great.  :)

I like the lighting when it's raining but is it possible to deactivate the raindrops?

Wow that looks allmost like photography !
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: 2eyed on August 17, 2020, 01:58:20 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/zR5mJH6/outerra-2020-08-16-23-36-19.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jM58RZJ)

The new update is really great.  :)

I like the lighting when it's raining but is it possible to deactivate the raindrops?

Wow that looks allmost like photography !

And all this with the "old" trees ;)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: pico on August 17, 2020, 02:18:04 pm
The new ones have no lighting at distance.  :-[

(https://i.ibb.co/Fx7P4vg/outerra-Tree-shadow.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DVKqfX5)

Left are the 3d trees.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: 2eyed on August 17, 2020, 03:37:51 pm
The old OT version 17 had better lighting for trees compared to 20.0.0 2d trees.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: Sam on August 18, 2020, 12:06:33 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/zR5mJH6/outerra-2020-08-16-23-36-19.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jM58RZJ)

The new update is really great.  :)

I like the lighting when it's raining but is it possible to deactivate the raindrops?
Dies könnte der Thunersee sein, aufgenommen nordwestlich von Thun.  ;)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12718 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on August 18, 2020, 12:59:46 pm
Lago Thun:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50240661658_031d9c8825_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxAwms)lago thun 001 (https://flic.kr/p/2jxAwms) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr  (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50241305426_a86846dcd6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jxDPHU)lago thun 002 (https://flic.kr/p/2jxDPHU) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/awac9/), en Flickr
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: Muddbell on August 19, 2020, 12:11:41 am
I love Outerra. Awesome update. I've been waiting for this step for awhile.

I know you'll get there, but I noticed there is no move, pan or zoom when in the roads and runway editor.

Thank you
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on August 19, 2020, 02:44:53 am
.12746 was a large patch update. That many bugs or are there new features/functionality?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 19, 2020, 04:58:30 am
A couple of modified tree models and textures inflated the patch a bit, the fixes were just in the executable.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: 2eyed on August 19, 2020, 10:18:29 am
Trees (3d) are still a tad on the dark side. Is it possible to make them lighter like the old ones? Distant (2d) trees are too blue when looking in sun direction and there is noticable color change when going from  2d to 3d (approach).
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 19, 2020, 10:24:47 am
Still working on the trees .. unfortunately the lighting is full of hacks to approximate the surfaces, old billboards were waay simpler in that regard.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: josem75 on August 21, 2020, 04:26:30 pm
Still working on the trees .. unfortunately the lighting is full of hacks to approximate the surfaces, old billboards were waay simpler in that regard.

But actually improved a lot, according to this post today. no?

https://twitter.com/outerradev/status/1296728389580136448

And damm, which machine you using? which graphic card.  You going so fast between that bunch of trees. Or also speed improved?

By the way. New version is great. Thanks!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 22, 2020, 06:46:29 am
I think Miki currently has a 2070 GPU.
But you don't have to have a super GPU to move fast among the trees, just speed it up with scroll wheel :)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: josem75 on August 23, 2020, 03:56:43 pm
I think Miki currently has a 2070 GPU.
But you don't have to have a super GPU to move fast among the trees, just speed it up with scroll wheel :)

Lol.  But yes, my fault. I had a lot of jumps runing between a bunch of trees. I installed a new motherboard and it seems i put two 8 Gb Ram modules in wrong position so only count 8 Gb. I was working with 8 Gb during last weeks.  xD

Now with 16 Gb is going good. Just in bunch of trees frames go to 25 Fps or so. But not jumping like before

It would be nice to see frames from diferent cards, like for example this 2070
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: DivineSense on August 27, 2020, 05:28:58 am
It's been a while since i looked into the Outerra world. I just came here to see what the Outerra crowd thinks about Microsoft Flight Simulator, and I realized a lot has happened with outerra too! This looks amazing, can't wait to take a spin in VR!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: Canleskis on August 27, 2020, 05:39:50 pm
Hi, really happy to see this update and excited for the future of Outerra!

However, I can't see those beautiful 3D trees right now because when the game is launched and loaded in, I have got a black screen flickering with some frames of the game here and there. I'm using a RX 5700 XT and have the latest drivers, I've tried uninstalling multiple times and changing hard drives, disabling any program that could interfere but to no avail. Should I post a log or is this a known issue?

Looking forward to an answer because I'd really to spend some time on Outerra!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on August 28, 2020, 03:35:37 am
There are some issues with AMD drivers, but nothing like this. Please send your eng.log to support at outerra.com, we'll take a look if there's anything fishy.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: Hugin on September 03, 2020, 01:08:45 pm
Hi, really happy to see this update and excited for the future of Outerra!

However, I can't see those beautiful 3D trees right now because when the game is launched and loaded in, I have got a black screen flickering with some frames of the game here and there. I'm using a RX 5700 XT and have the latest drivers, I've tried uninstalling multiple times and changing hard drives, disabling any program that could interfere but to no avail. Should I post a log or is this a known issue?

Looking forward to an answer because I'd really to spend some time on Outerra!

Hi! Same problem here, also playing on AMD RX 5700 XT (Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.8.2)
Weird thing: the flickering disappears for a while when I shoot with that laser-thingy. So I'm flying around shooting and shooting .....
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12746 (64-bit)
Post by: jphacken on September 06, 2020, 12:58:00 am
Thank you. It's very nice!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on September 08, 2020, 04:49:16 am
20.0.0.12891
* enhanced tree shading, shadows
* better tree age distribution
* fixed vehicle/aircraft set_fps_camera_ypr
* fixed vehicle script reload
* fixed ambient sounds, set_interior_sound_attenuation
* fbx import - 3ds max skin import issue fixed, clamping of pivot offset disabled
* scenery editor - pivot render fix
* added emissive lights on distant building LOD
* fixed gl errors, black screen on AMD
* fixed spurious reflections in env map
* fixed joystick deadzone
* crash fixes
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: josem75 on September 08, 2020, 11:50:27 am
20.0.0.12891
* enhanced tree shading, shadows
* better tree age distribution
* fixed vehicle/aircraft set_fps_camera_ypr
* fixed vehicle script reload
* fixed ambient sounds, set_interior_sound_attenuation
* fbx import - 3ds max skin import issue fixed, clamping of pivot offset disabled
* scenery editor - pivot render fix
* added emissive lights on distant building LOD
* fixed gl errors, black screen on AMD
* fixed spurious reflections in env map
* fixed joystick deadzone
* crash fixes

Nice. Cant wait to test. But after automatic install new changes, i load game and become crazy. Terrain break everywhere, i cant move, like im freeze in the middle of my location, etc.
Which solution can i try? To try to avoid reinstall all from begin
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on September 08, 2020, 11:55:45 am
Try first deleting/moving the world.cfg and eng.cfg files, check eng.log for errors.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: josem75 on September 08, 2020, 12:34:13 pm
Try first deleting/moving the world.cfg and eng.cfg files, check eng.log for errors.

Dont know if some error or not. This is my Eng Log.  Deleting world and eng didnt work :(

Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on September 08, 2020, 12:51:06 pm
Here aWac9 reports that the installation has been successful .. stop
(that's news :)
tree shadows are much improved. stop.
we will continue to inform.
Thank you
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: josem75 on September 08, 2020, 01:22:04 pm
Try first deleting/moving the world.cfg and eng.cfg files, check eng.log for errors.

My fault! I deleted the old 32 bits version files xD.  Now yes, working again.

Mate.. Impostor Trees now are day and night with previous ones!  This is outstanding now.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on September 19, 2020, 06:58:57 pm
Yeah, even though with 3D trees on and lots trees around, my performance is pretty alright, even though slightly below 30, generally.  But any time I'm in an area with more than a few buildings, it tanks my framerate down to almost nothing.

Loud audio glitches can still happen occasionally on 64-bit.


I finally got my Dualshock 4 controller to work for basic functionality with cars / the Tatra, but things like Headlights and Blinkers are still kind of messed up or not working with controller buttons.  Can't turn off lights with controller no matter what I change the settings to (including the blank spot in the dropdown).  Turning off blinkers on the Tatra isn't working on keyboard either.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: inactive on September 20, 2020, 09:44:04 am
Yeah, even though with 3D trees on and lots trees around, my performance is pretty alright, even though slightly below 30, generally.  But any time I'm in an area with more than a few buildings, it tanks my framerate down to almost nothing.

Loud audio glitches can still happen occasionally on 64-bit.


I finally got my Dualshock 4 controller to work for basic functionality with cars / the Tatra, but things like Headlights and Blinkers are still kind of messed up or not working with controller buttons.  Can't turn off lights with controller no matter what I change the settings to (including the blank spot in the dropdown).  Turning off blinkers on the Tatra isn't working on keyboard either.
I've noticed these things before, especially the blinker issue, It also occurs on my Sumitzu Sidewinder mod.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on September 26, 2020, 12:43:19 am
Is it expected that Outerra alone could take over 8GB RAM with enough long-distance driving (countryside or not), or is that not supposed to happen? (no mods).

I have 16GB of RAM, but these days Windows and my system sometimes takes 6-8GB total before I even run a game, with the next highest process maybe taking 100MB (something apart of Windows, of course).

Then I get Outerra to go over the other 8GB with a long distance drive.

4GB VRAM.
HDD, unfortunately.

Then my framerate tanks and never really recovers.  It might raise if I'm standing still, but didn't actually improve because it drops as soon as i move again.

The ground quality setting says it affects GPU, but does it increase RAM usage as well?  Lowering it after having it at 1080 didn't lower RAM usage, though I didn't restart, if needed.

I'm using the best data resolutions available, but did not modify any other graphics besides display resolution 1680x1050.
3D Trees & Buildings enabled & shadows, but not modified.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on September 26, 2020, 01:45:48 am
Yes it can eat 8GB, mainly with the hi-res datasets enabled. We are still tweaking it, seems the terrain cache size preset may be too big in some cases.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on September 26, 2020, 03:26:24 pm
Ok, I was wondering if the datasets were ram hogs, but hoping they weren't  :(

As for the ground quality, it says the default is 480, but I'm pretty sure it defaults to 600 when installed/reset.  Is raising that to 1080 ok with 4GB VRAM and RAM limitations or is it not worth it?  Or is that not really an issue of VRAM/RAM?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on September 27, 2020, 01:22:45 pm
Terrain quality setting affects how much VRAM and RAM is allocated for terrain. There are other parts that consume lots of memory that aren't affected by it, like the tree data or building packages.

We will probably have to run some tests to determine how much memory is needed. I noticed in the crash reports we receive that people are trying to run it on some low end hardware, but current version will crash when the VRAM pool is exhausted ...
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on September 29, 2020, 06:43:58 pm
Hmm.... Has anybody tried wheels yet?  Would wheel rotation and pedals bind correctly?  (The binding screen is still finicky in the first place (for me).)

(Thrustmaster.)

I don't care if wheel rotation doesn't actually match, just as long as it's usable (Tatra).
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on September 29, 2020, 09:33:14 pm
The buildings that are used for gas stations and toll booths need their collision boxes improved.  :))
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on October 01, 2020, 08:45:16 pm
I keep trying to bind my pedals, but they keep more behaving like a toggle, even though it does come up as Axis (and has the half and inverted checkboxes that I don't need, rather than the dropdown).

With the Tatra.

I tried with just one pedal bound and that's mostly basically working like a toggle and shouldn't be.
Then I bind the brake, too and it gets worse.

Is there something funky about how the "Parked" state works?  Is it like enabling the hand brake with a delay?  Because it's difficult getting out of it while trying to work on this. 

And again, even with just the gas pedal bound, it's still behaving like an acceleration toggle.  I push and it keeps accelerating even when I let go, and I have to then push it again for it to stop accelerating and coast.  Even though it does seem to see it as an axis.

Then adding the brake bind just adds more troubles.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: ThomasMu on October 10, 2020, 08:24:24 am
I keep trying to bind my pedals, but they keep more behaving like a toggle, even though it does come up as Axis (and has the half and inverted checkboxes that I don't need, rather than the dropdown).

With the Tatra.

I tried with just one pedal bound and that's mostly basically working like a toggle and shouldn't be.
Then I bind the brake, too and it gets worse.

Is there something funky about how the "Parked" state works?  Is it like enabling the hand brake with a delay?  Because it's difficult getting out of it while trying to work on this. 

And again, even with just the gas pedal bound, it's still behaving like an acceleration toggle.  I push and it keeps accelerating even when I let go, and I have to then push it again for it to stop accelerating and coast.  Even though it does seem to see it as an axis.

Then adding the brake bind just adds more troubles.

I have the same problem with mapping my gamepad, there is no problem mapping the triggers as an axis for planes but it wont work as throttle and brake for cars.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.12891 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on October 10, 2020, 08:42:17 am
I have no problem with binding my joystick throttle, brake and steering for the tatra. of course the brake acts as toggle here but it works fine. Pressing the "Brake" button more than a second or so will "park" it of course..but that's the same with keyboard, so its normal.

(https://i.postimg.cc/5NC4wggx/keybindings.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGRC8bSg)

I keep trying to bind my pedals, but they keep more behaving like a toggle, even though it does come up as Axis (and has the half and inverted checkboxes that I don't need, rather than the dropdown).

With the Tatra.

I tried with just one pedal bound and that's mostly basically working like a toggle and shouldn't be.
Then I bind the brake, too and it gets worse.

Is there something funky about how the "Parked" state works?  Is it like enabling the hand brake with a delay?  Because it's difficult getting out of it while trying to work on this. 

And again, even with just the gas pedal bound, it's still behaving like an acceleration toggle.  I push and it keeps accelerating even when I let go, and I have to then push it again for it to stop accelerating and coast.  Even though it does seem to see it as an axis.

Then adding the brake bind just adds more troubles.

I have the same problem with mapping my gamepad, there is no problem mapping the triggers as an axis for planes but it wont work as throttle and brake for cars.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on October 22, 2020, 02:01:19 pm
20.0.0.13063 (22 Oct 2020)

Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on October 22, 2020, 02:59:20 pm
Huh.... I've only played some while at night, but still haven't actually seen the moon.  Wasn't it something that needed to be turned on manually before? idk


There's this one building model with green awnings where the building itself likes to disappear while you're around it, leaving just the green awnings.
(I'm not talking about green gas station / toll roofs.)

What is the building model selection based on?  There's some tight cities/villages where the roads are impassable, and I'm not sure if it's due to just poor placement, or if the models are just oversized - with the front steps perhaps also frequently making it tougher.  All of the above, maybe.


I also never knew so many garages existed in the world.  :))  Kind of jealous of the guy who lived in a shack attached to 5 garages.  :P
Though maybe it was an auto repair shop or something, I wasn't gonna bother to go confirm.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: TobiWahn_Kenobi on January 12, 2021, 04:09:42 pm
Hi, thanks for the update. Looks nice when it works.
Unfortunately I've got weird graphics artefacts appearing instead of normal tiles. They seem to be mirroring some existing patches of land. Mostly duplication of road tiles that make no sense or patches of water where there should be none. Always a full quadtratic tile.
They seem to take longer to appear when I dial down the resolution to 1280x800 and set all settings to their lowest. So it seems a problem handling my 4GB VRAM.
I've got a MacBook Pro 2018 Corei9 6 Core 2,8 GHz 32GB RAM 4GB vega20 (mobile version, not the "real" vega20) with windows 10 latest build (not fast ring or something like that)
Any clues? Installer told me my drivers where good enough (AMD Radeon 20.10.36.01)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on January 12, 2021, 04:24:53 pm
Installer checks only the basic requirements, it's always good to update to the latest drivers.

It seems to be a driver problem. If you are running out of memory, the drivers should be able to swap some with the main memory at the price of some performance. Unfortunately, we have a bad experience with AMD OpenGL drivers and their newer GPUs. Not only the performance isn't as expected, but each architecture has weird bugs of its own ...
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on January 16, 2021, 06:38:14 pm
There's no trees at all in Outerra's Iceland, not even in the spots where there are some IRL.  :(  Many of the lakes are missing, too.  It's got most of the rivers, I believe, though not every single one.

But I highly recommend checking out Route 1 West of Akureyri, Iceland.  That entire valley that Route 1 takes is ridiculous!  (you might want to set it to a realistic FOV)
I was there on Jan 15, I think around mid-day? (it might snow/rain sometimes, but I got a ridiculously amazing view of the sun coming through a hole in the clouds down the valley)

Unfortunately, I failed at taking what were going to be my best screenshots.  Either I accidentally hit Share on my controller, instead of my Steam Screenshot key, out of habit from console, or I actually didn't do anything at the moment I turned the best corner because I was really stunned by it


I got some additional info and can keep trying, but man I just could not figure out how to get Steam screenshotting bound to my controller today (or actually how it works by default).  Supposedly by default, with it enabled, you have to press 2 buttons, not just 1 as I have it set on my PS4. idk

Also, am I an idiot? (probably).  Why does Outerra show the day getting shorter in Iceland between Jan 15 and 16th?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on January 17, 2021, 08:46:39 am
In order not to deviate from the thread, I added a video comment about the lack of vegetation in Iceland.

https://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=70.165
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: pico on February 02, 2021, 11:22:03 am
There is a change in brightness at 3000m to 7000m altitude...?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on February 02, 2021, 03:59:48 pm

I don't notice any change in brightness.

https://youtu.be/VFsH2zA6Lss
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: pico on February 03, 2021, 09:49:08 am
Ok..now i know why. I modified environment atmosphere parameters. Thx aWac9.

Obviously the changes in this area will not be adjusted.

Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on February 09, 2021, 07:25:59 am
Is an update coming anytime soon? Perhaps some new features (like tunnels) or functionality?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on February 11, 2021, 01:46:04 am
knowing outerra it seems highly unlikely there will be any major update before august-september...my guess is it will be even later than that....but who knows...never say never
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on February 15, 2021, 05:13:16 pm
AMD drivers scare me a lot. However this latest version of Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.2.2. fixes support for EEVEE rendering in Blender on Radeon RX 400 and Radeon RX 500 series. so I got encouraged and installed it with my fingers crossed .. ok ,,,, everything went well ,,
this last version of 02/05/2021 ... without problems. ,,, for now
uffff.

win 10, msi Radeon RX580
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on February 20, 2021, 01:19:35 am
AMD drivers scare me a lot. However this latest version of Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.2.2. fixes support for EEVEE rendering in Blender on Radeon RX 400 and Radeon RX 500 series. so I got encouraged and installed it with my fingers crossed .. ok ,,,, everything went well ,,
this last version of 02/05/2021 ... without problems. ,,, for now
uffff.

win 10, msi Radeon RX580

Time to upgrade to an RX6800? :D
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: HiFlyer on February 24, 2021, 09:48:54 am
Seems so quiet here nowadays. Without fly77, the place would essentially be a ghost-town. Hope there is still progress/growth happening.....
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on February 24, 2021, 02:14:36 pm
Seems so quiet here nowadays. Without fly77, the place would essentially be a ghost-town. Hope there is still progress/growth happening.....

yeah...very quiet....but on discord its even more quiet now ....seems everybody is just waiting for some mayor breakthrough. In my opinion if we had multiplayer it would revive the outerra forum and discord.
but Ok we are used to waiting in outerra...we are either very patient, or very busy with making mods, or enjoying outerra so much (its prefect!) or not caring at all anymore , so that we have nothing to discuss here.   =| ,     ;) ,   :)  ,  :'(
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on February 25, 2021, 04:13:23 am
Oh we are still pretty much working on our ghost-planet, for our ghostly purposes.

But I doubt many people are "waiting for a breakthrough", the community of tinkerers and silent world explorers was only ever so big, and there were lots of simmers that now happily went to FS2020. Mind you, this was the market we never tried to compete in, a specific niche with dedicated and demanding customer base, lots of existing companies crowded there and us with our comparatively tiny resources. One probably can't doubt our perseverance, with which we could still attempt it head on, but that would require us to be also reasonably fanatic flight sim fans and not essentially borderline ones.

Our tech demo is still getting updates, but not so frequently because we keep breaking stuff and there's already a problem of backward compatibility with the mods. IMO, a bigger and more active community can probably only arise once we release something for a wider gaming community ...
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on February 25, 2021, 04:43:49 pm
Oh we are still pretty much working on our ghost-planet, for our ghostly purposes.

But I doubt many people are "waiting for a breakthrough", the community of tinkerers and silent world explorers was only ever so big, and there were lots of simmers that now happily went to FS2020. Mind you, this was the market we never tried to compete in, a specific niche with dedicated and demanding customer base, lots of existing companies crowded there and us with our comparatively tiny resources. One probably can't doubt our perseverance, with which we could still attempt it head on, but that would require us to be also reasonably fanatic flight sim fans and not essentially borderline ones.

Our tech demo is still getting updates, but not so frequently because we keep breaking stuff and there's already a problem of backward compatibility with the mods. IMO, a bigger and more active community can probably only arise once we release something for a wider gaming community ...

I think it might be time to put the development tools out into the Outerra community. It's the easiest way to get that bigger and more active community and be able to have that "something" for the wider gaming community.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: PytonPago on February 28, 2021, 04:08:27 am
I might be the bad man here ... am too busy in real life lately as hell, so basically, all my assets are on the ice. ( guess, anyone could just update the code if updates break them - and I put them to absolute free use, so no worry touching them in my absence to your delight ) Be definitely finishing them up, but is complicated to jump in with any proper time investment right now.  ... tho, cameni has a point, a lot of stuff is already possible, was back in my last active time. Just getting the creative job done to spice things a bit up is the issue I see.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on February 28, 2021, 04:35:20 am
I might be the bad man here ... am too busy in real life lately as hell, so basically, all my assets are on the ice. ( guess, anyone could just update the code if updates break them - and I put them to absolute free use, so no worry touching them in my absence to your delight ) Be definitely finishing them up, but is complicated to jump in with any proper time investment right now.  ... tho, cameni has a point, a lot of stuff is already possible, was back in my last active time. Just getting the creative job done to spice things a bit up is the issue I see.

Yes you're right...a lot of "tools" are available already (the outerra API) and many things have been solved by users ...like character animation...etc..its up to us to use them or instead just wait for something to happen "magically".
About "...all my assets are on the ice. ( guess, anyone could just update the code if updates break them - and I put them to absolute free use..." it would be necessary to have the 3D models files to spice up the animation
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: PytonPago on March 01, 2021, 10:48:43 pm
it would be necessary to have the 3D models files to spice up the animation

 ... hmm, the 0,3 ver. Ural is there with the blender file ... I see to it to get the rest on GDrive for ya.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on March 02, 2021, 01:19:39 am
... hmm, the 0,3 ver. Ural is there with the blender file ... I see to it to get the rest on GDrive for ya.

You are right::here it is..will definitely try to work with it... i love detailed truck models, especially your ural...with all those modules.

However I don't uderstand what all those cubes are ?  makes things quite confusing to handle and visualize. Could they be "removed" ?  seems the parts can't be separated from those cubes...what are they and why are they there ?            ..........Ah found it..they are "texture space cubes"...now need to find how to disable their viewing "alltogether" in blender.279 ...doing it one by one is a nightmare..as you have thousands meshes there ...probably a way to do it is by joining meshes..which I need to do anyway...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bJrJ5gm6/ural.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MgPMYRm)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QVGdH3hP/boh.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJdBD23Q)

(https://i.postimg.cc/c1bST0yG/Cattura.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BtHknWnm)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on March 02, 2021, 04:45:22 am
tried to "join" parts...more or less randomly , following intuition...
Some got "lost" during the joining ...as they were pobably generated by some symmetry operations...
hmm...will have to do it again...trying to do it better...quite a daunting task  =|
...oh this is the wrong topic for this kind of discussion...sorry

(https://i.postimg.cc/02yC51bj/Ural.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjH9V5Lb)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on March 04, 2021, 05:17:31 pm
We've been talking about outerra Anteworld for so long that we don't realize the game already exists, at least in its early stages.
We have bought for the price of a pizza, the most powerful planetary engine known, being aware of the enormous effort and talent invested to get here ... Earth8
Cameni tells us what the pulse of the company is, no one knows it better than he, and he talks to us with sincerity, about its limitations and its risks.
Outerra neither wants nor can it compete with large groups, call it Microsoft, Laminar Research, Eagles Dinamics, etc. But that does not mean that it can have its own simulator, in fact we almost have it already.
For now, it is not necessary to simulate complex parts of a simulator, think of radar, various bombs, missions, communications, AI, etc. It is enough for us to fly, to enjoy a simple flight while we marvel at the outerra plane, it would be enough to add the basic operation of clocks, lighting, Ram sartp, no radar or explosions, just enjoy the flight and if we could have reality virtual, then we hallucinated.
Over time, and with a large community, we could aspire to something more complex. I who am a lover of simulators, with outerra, I would be satisfied to be able to make a flight with a route or waypoint from A to B.
You might think that so much space (outerra) would be too huge for most games, although that is not a problem either, you can always detail a more limited space of the terrain. Aerial simulation, as we conceive it in this house, and its narrow niche, is an ideal option, as long as not too much energy is invested in something that can attract many fans or clients if we speak as a company.
A company is not a forum, not even the activity that the same (forum) could have. The forum is simply the meeting place of a community or better between the business of the company and the wishes of its customers.
One thing if we are clear, we cannot afford a mistake, nor have many fronts open, we have to concentrate on the essentials, and be clear about where we are going or where we want to go, which do not always coincide ,,, and that Cameni I think that it is clear to him, despite the fact that many do not read between the lines.

if it is not understood, the person responsible is google

Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: PRiME on March 05, 2021, 06:48:40 am
Been a LONG while since I've visited Outerra, good to see the updates still trickling out. I look forwarded to updates in 2021.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on March 25, 2021, 06:41:30 am
20.0.1.13485 (hotfix) (25 Mar 2021)

Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on April 09, 2021, 05:21:10 pm
Since the new version the datadownload seems slowed down considerably for me. Anybody else having ths issue ?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: aWac9 on April 09, 2021, 05:58:10 pm
Yes. the initial connection is slow ,, then if you leave outerra and come back in, it does it normally .. I imagine it will depend on many factors, including internet speed ,, and I suppose relativity too ,, since a computer scientist It is more sensitive to speed, and distinguishes between bits and Mbps and can get upset ...., but for the rest of the mortals, we see it quite normal :)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: PytonPago on April 10, 2021, 09:25:36 am
Since the new version the datadownload seems slowed down considerably for me. Anybody else having ths issue ?

I rmember there were the whole global terrain and biome data to get via torrent ... are they still round ? Perhaps making a updated version, with the Moon and the Middle Earth project one as separate ones to get in one swoop ?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on April 10, 2021, 10:50:06 am
Quote
I rmember there were the whole global terrain and biome data to get via torrent ... are they still round ? Perhaps making a updated version, with the Moon and the Middle Earth project one as separate ones to get in one swoop ?

Not sure if its still around, but that would use too much memory in my SSD. I am not really a big outerra explorer.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: lc94617 on May 02, 2021, 12:11:25 am
why I can't open.It crash instantly and appear a Error Report window.
I Just install the Latest Version 20.0.0.13063,actually i have tried several times since the new version published and everytime was the same problem.
My pc configuration:i5 10400/8g/UHD 630/samsung 970 EVO/Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019
I have export the report zip file.How to analyze it or send to someone professional?
Please someone help me! I really want to try this game!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on May 02, 2021, 05:05:36 am
14:51:54.326 DEBUG: GL Renderer: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630

Unfortunately, the app does not work with Intel integrated graphics cards. They do not have enough power but mainly their OpenGL drivers are buggy and incomplete.

Actually, you should not have gotten through the installer, there's a check if the GPU supports bindless textures (which yours doesn't).
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: racerx on May 02, 2021, 07:51:58 pm
Oh we are still pretty much working on our ghost-planet, for our ghostly purposes.

But I doubt many people are "waiting for a breakthrough", the community of tinkerers and silent world explorers was only ever so big, and there were lots of simmers that now happily went to FS2020. Mind you, this was the market we never tried to compete in, a specific niche with dedicated and demanding customer base, lots of existing companies crowded there and us with our comparatively tiny resources. One probably can't doubt our perseverance, with which we could still attempt it head on, but that would require us to be also reasonably fanatic flight sim fans and not essentially borderline ones.

Our tech demo is still getting updates, but not so frequently because we keep breaking stuff and there's already a problem of backward compatibility with the mods. IMO, a bigger and more active community can probably only arise once we release something for a wider gaming community ...
or we are just waiting for Unreal Engine 5 whole planet rendering
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: bada on May 03, 2021, 08:59:58 am
or we are just waiting for Unreal Engine 5 whole planet rendering

Will it ever happen?
Will the transition from space to land happen flawlessly as in OT?
If it happens, you'll need to build from zero the whole world, terrain data input, roads input, objects input, physics input, etc, etc...
From a sim map builder pov, OT is missing some key functions (at least in anteworld, don't know how it is in the devlopper version ), but simple functions like selecting an area to edit (simple example: transforming all asphalt roads in an area into cobblestone roads); being able to modify vegetation (remove or add) directly on screen; terrain texturing using procedurals as in Arma and an editor interface more friendly  =D
The big  issue (for me) in OT is the Water Render and the weather (visualy).

I follow a one guy engine WiP since few years and what is he doing looks really nice and he does it in Vulkan.
I think his planet engine will be out sooner than the unreal one.
https://github.com/fynnfluegge/oreon-engine
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9lXX-YnU_VcDT3VS85skMQ
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.0.13063 (64-bit)
Post by: racerx on May 05, 2021, 08:47:51 pm
or we are just waiting for Unreal Engine 5 whole planet rendering

Will it ever happen?
Will the transition from space to land happen flawlessly as in OT?
If it happens, you'll need to build from zero the whole world, terrain data input, roads input, objects input, physics input, etc, etc...
From a sim map builder pov, OT is missing some key functions (at least in anteworld, don't know how it is in the devlopper version ), but simple functions like selecting an area to edit (simple example: transforming all asphalt roads in an area into cobblestone roads); being able to modify vegetation (remove or add) directly on screen; terrain texturing using procedurals as in Arma and an editor interface more friendly  =D
The big  issue (for me) in OT is the Water Render and the weather (visualy).

I follow a one guy engine WiP since few years and what is he doing looks really nice and he does it in Vulkan.
I think his planet engine will be out sooner than the unreal one.
https://github.com/fynnfluegge/oreon-engine
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9lXX-YnU_VcDT3VS85skMQ
This github project has a really nice looking water system for ue4. ive tried it and it looks beautiful https://github.com/UE4-OceanProject/Environment-Project
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: Aztec2012 on August 03, 2021, 02:53:26 pm
Almost one year from release. Any news?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: HiFlyer on September 01, 2021, 01:30:22 pm
Almost one year from release. Any news?

Apparently not!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: Krutan on September 18, 2021, 11:09:41 am
Almost one year from release. Any news?
Doubt Outerra is being actively worked on nowadays. Every now and then you'll see some fixes here and there, but that's about it. Might be wrong, but that's the impression that I get.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: bada on October 26, 2021, 06:40:12 am
Ok, so after a visit to a frenchy forum, i think i know why Kameni didn't post any news or updates since a long time, he was busy with the first OT Public Game..at least the OT integration into it:
Mighty Eight.

Do you spot the terrain????  ;)

https://discord.com/channels/6815233536 ... 4589738086

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714775944589738086/900788865143562320/B-17_11.jpg?width=1044&height=587)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714775944589738086/900788877994885120/img_48-1.jpg?width=724&height=397)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714775944589738086/900788884483493970/B-17_8_0001.jpg?width=1066&height=587)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714775944589738086/900788888077992036/img_47-1.jpg?width=1012&height=587)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714775944589738086/900788892674957342/Mighty_8th_1b.jpg?width=983&height=588)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714775944589738086/900788896869273680/B-17_2_0.jpg?width=1044&height=587)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714775944589738086/900788901579456582/B-17_1.jpg?width=1044&height=587)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714775944589738086/900788904704233522/B-17_3_0.jpg?width=1044&height=587)





Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on October 26, 2021, 09:15:13 am
 :o Oh ! finally we know what's the reason for the silence...something bigger than a sandbox-demo update is in the oven ! Congratulations to outerra for partnering with Microprose 👌
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: Aztec2012 on October 26, 2021, 01:49:23 pm
Maybe an answer to Microsoft Flight Simulator Earth model?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: DenisJ on October 30, 2021, 06:35:18 pm

https://discord.com/channels/6815233536 ... 4589738086


The link is broken, could you update it by chance?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on October 31, 2021, 07:05:09 am
I think its the microprose link :  https://discord.com/channels/681523353651249174/714775944589738086/900788866980659223
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: Frrrlip on February 07, 2022, 02:47:25 pm
Is outerra project STOP? So far no releases of major Updates. Love to see available more resolution on elevation terrain inset (5m), tunnel's, Bridges... 🙄. Also would be nice support/compatibility for blender object files. Waiting for good news Outerra. (New version on unreal engine? I wouldn't mind to pay again to get it, that would be awesome... (Sorry my poor English)).
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on February 08, 2022, 01:54:50 am
no not stopped but as you can see above they seem to be involved in some sort of game development together with microprose.
"New version on unreal engine?" well outerra is an engine by itself.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: Frrrlip on February 08, 2022, 04:30:53 am
(New version on unreal engine? I wouldn't mind to pay again to get it, that would be awesome... (Sorry my poor English)).

🤐...     👍
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on June 17, 2022, 03:43:54 am
For those of you that do not follow the outerra discord: here is the (long awaited) news about outerra updates

Zeev: @cameni "Is there a game update in the horizon ?"
cameni: "yes, there will be an announcement soon about it (and our cooperation with MicroProse)"


it says "announcement" so no update yet on the horizon but at least an announcement  :))
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: Jagerbomber on June 17, 2022, 11:50:10 am
well when there's always a horizon....
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on June 18, 2022, 06:27:56 am
well when there's always a horizon....

better a "horizon"  than a black hole :))

(https://i.postimg.cc/2ybbFzn4/horizon.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on October 27, 2022, 01:13:24 pm
As alpha-tester I have the pleasure to show you another screenshot from the upcoming outerra world sandbox  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ydpYhL7V/screen-1666878929.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RThCt4S)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: 2eyed on October 29, 2022, 07:05:36 am
Being myself a kind of "alpha-tester" since 2013, I definitely look forward to a (steam) release.
I hope we get back VR support which was really fun in Outerra. It was my favorite engine back then.
Maybe the basic lighting (compared to modern engines like MSFS) will get an overhaul in the future.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on October 29, 2022, 07:24:31 am
Being myself a kind of "alpha-tester" since 2013, I definitely look forward to a (steam) release.
I hope we get back VR support which was really fun in Outerra. It was my favorite engine back then.
Maybe the basic lighting (compared to modern engines like MSFS) will get an overhaul in the future.

Yes "VR support will be there right from the start"   :)  (cameni's response on steam's outerra word sandbox comunity hub)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on October 31, 2022, 01:52:37 am
As alpha-tester I have the pleasure to show you another screenshot from the upcoming outerra world sandbox  :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ydpYhL7V/screen-1666878929.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RThCt4S)

Wait, when did this happen? What sort of timeframe are we looking at?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: DenisJ on October 31, 2022, 02:30:57 am
https://store.steampowered.com/app/575020/Outerra_World_Sandbox/

Funnily Cameni shared the announcement in the discord channel, but not here. Expected to hit Early Access "in coming months".
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: Revolver on October 31, 2022, 07:11:17 am
mir scheint das die Brückenbau Ingenieuren waren wohl へべれけ/yopparai/ Sturz betrunken gewesen, was ? =D

(https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/575020/ss_36f0b1c16df5cb5720113b0cec38e566e551e27f.600x338.jpg?t=1666644594)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on October 31, 2022, 08:58:00 am
mir scheint das die Brückenbau Ingenieuren waren wohl へべれけ/yopparai/ Sturz betrunken gewesen, was ? =D

kannste wohl sagen !  :o =D
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: obren on November 22, 2022, 02:06:20 pm
Hi, are we going to be able to use our username and password to run Outerra on Steam?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: fly77 on November 22, 2022, 03:59:36 pm
Hi, are we going to be able to use our username and password to run Outerra on Steam?

you will be provided with a Key for Outerra world sandbox on steam..you will get that key as described by cameni in discord (see below). I guess you can use that key with whatever steam account you have. Just reclaim your OWS game using the provided steam key.

cameni "I think we will primarily show it inside Anteworld in account settings after you log in
then probably also via the same login on a web page, without having to go through the app
email would be the last resort, there are issues sending emails even now when people request password change"
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: TheFlightOfficer on February 05, 2023, 10:20:37 pm
There is an error when installing this.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on February 06, 2023, 03:25:31 am
Assuming it wasn't a problem with disk space, you can try disabling the antivirus, it's known some of them cause issues for the installer. Or perhaps try to re-download the demo.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: TheFlightOfficer on February 06, 2023, 08:37:07 am
I've tried both, still not working.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: cameni on February 07, 2023, 04:37:09 am
If your downloaded installer files are getting corrupted for some reason, try the zip file: Anteworld-20.0.1.13485.zip (https://outerraworld.com/appdata/Anteworld/Anteworld-20.0.1.13485.zip)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: SpaceFlight on April 02, 2023, 10:51:17 am
Nice to see this project is still being worked on!  :)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: ZeosPantera on May 29, 2023, 02:30:24 am
OK mom I'm awake.. Found the GameTrailers video from 7 months ago. I think I missed about most of a Decade of updates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gWVIw79YN0

On the Steam Watchlist as well. I do miss waiting for 3D procedural Trees every week.

Also an April 2023 twitter post about procedural Bridges! Its happening!
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: 0uterrafilms on May 29, 2023, 03:54:09 am
Can't wait for it to come out. I wonder how to gain early access  ;)
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: Frrrlip on August 02, 2023, 05:49:40 am
Any news about the release date of new SandBox version?
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: HiFlyer on September 05, 2023, 08:46:38 pm
Annnnnnnnddd....

You have your answer.
Title: Re: Latest version: 20.0.1.13485 (64-bit)
Post by: chomper on September 23, 2023, 10:16:23 pm
Annnnnnnnddd....

You have your answer.

Don't tell me it's been cancelled?