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Javafoil help
« on: August 13, 2014, 02:42:27 pm »
http://www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/javafoil.htm

Ok this and javaprop are 2 very important fdm tools.... recently the capability to copy n paste has be removed.....

Can someone get it back, by hook or by crook...

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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2014, 10:20:42 am »
The applications not running at all anymore?  I see they have issue with the latest OS versions as well as Java versions....
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 06:33:22 am »
No it works, it's just that once I've got the app to calculate the lift coefficients I'd like to be able to copy these values into the fdm..... but no copy n paste at the moment.
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 07:50:08 am »
Maybe this site might be helpful: http://airfoiltools.com/
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 09:31:09 am »
That's ok for getting the polars ie the shape of the airfoil/s along the wing... it's this that is entered into javafoil which calculates the coefficients for that shape..... and it's getting these values out of javafoil that's become more difficult of late with the 'greyed out' copy button
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2014, 02:57:13 pm »
I like this information as a starter as it tells me what airfoils are used at the root and tip of the wing

http://aerospace.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html

but this is not getting my javafoil fixed is it... ;)
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2014, 03:13:03 pm »
Ok trying to explain myself clearer....

this is just a bogus wing as an example... So think of it as the part of the wing where the ailerons are and I've deflected it fully down and I need to understand how this effects the co-efficient of lift for this particular section.



I then analyze the airfoils performance at various angles of attack and reynolds numbers



I then cut-n-paste into a spreadsheet and from there into JSBsim xml file.... but as you can see the copy text is greyed out and I can no longer do this....

Can someone help me understand why ?

Simon
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2014, 02:44:15 pm »
A dirty solution...that works to fix the copy/paste issue!




From this web page:   http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8513740/copy-paste-not-working-in-a-signed-applet
« Last Edit: October 03, 2014, 02:50:00 pm by mekgp »
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2014, 07:28:16 am »
nope doesn't work for me :(

don't give up thought.
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2014, 10:54:35 am »
64 bit machine?   May be two versions of the policy file.   Modify both of them....
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2014, 11:10:47 am »
Restart the browser after you modify too. ...
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2014, 11:16:12 am »
Can't find another file and restarted the machine...
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2014, 11:18:32 am »
What java version?   
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2014, 11:28:03 am »
You use the browser version or standalone app?
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Re: Javafoil help
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2014, 11:30:03 am »
Browser applet
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