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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2014, 09:34:50 am »

Wow very impressive!
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2014, 12:19:35 pm »

Can you get a camera that sits in the guns chair or is that not possible in the current scripts?
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2014, 01:01:16 pm »

Can you get a camera that sits in the guns chair or is that not possible in the current scripts?

 ... till camera position can be fixed to a certain mesh, it will be difficult - guess, maybe a circle script to use on the camera coordinates, doe im not sure if the vector of its facing will change too, or stay focused at the same direction ...  ???

Anyway, i dont have the targeting device done yet there - you need to use a paper-roll anyway. :D :D
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2014, 07:55:11 am »

NEWER EWER - scare your ural --- they jump out of their suspension !!!  ::)








  ... happened when i played with script and has something stupid laying around there ...
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2014, 09:28:16 am »

Uhh... You're supposed to wait until the pavement dries...  ::)
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2014, 02:19:23 pm »

I love the way the leaf springs are trying to compensate.
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2014, 03:05:36 pm »



 Was playing around the front-panel stuff a little. Tuned the speed/RPM meters, added a driven-length meter, some little oil pressure and coolant pressure indicators ... if you run out of fuel, the engine dies, also when coolant temperature goes too high. Next would be a illuminated panel-texture creation for the light-indication panel. Some things will be further enhanced like the tire-pressure indicator. But OT needs first some enhanced wheel-physics for that to manipulate their deformations and the "clearance". Other than that - i should work on the ZU-23 model to bring it to finish, do the BTR-80 interior and pimp its script to this extend too (if all goes well, ill incorporate the multiple-turret script so that you can use the side-shoot places white some AKs too in addition to the turret, but you all must wait for that one to come).

 So ... check the latest download-post ! Enjoy the driving !
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2014, 11:29:52 pm »

What is with the smoothing? :o
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2014, 12:45:01 am »

What is with the smoothing? :o

 ... yes, probably should add some polygons to the steering-wheel ...
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2014, 02:14:36 am »

What is with the smoothing? :o

 ... yes, probably should add some polygons to the steering-wheel ...

Try to use normal maps instead of adding more polygons. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_mapping
It will save you performance since you will only use texture.
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2014, 02:33:43 am »

... yes, probably should add some polygons to the steering-wheel ...
Those look actually like not smoothed mesh normals. In practice that means there are multiple normals per vertex, and importer has to duplicate the vertices just to achieve that non-smooth look. If you smooth the mesh, there will be a single normal per vertex, smaller mesh after import, and a better look. Non-smooth mesh is used where you actually need to obtain an edge.
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2014, 03:41:26 am »

What is with the smoothing? :o

 ... yes, probably should add some polygons to the steering-wheel ...

Try to use normal maps instead of adding more polygons. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_mapping
It will save you performance since you will only use texture.

 ... man, im bad at anything involving textures outside filling a square with some paint. Not to mention artistic jobs like that Michalangelo. (if i could draw some of that stuff i have sometimes in my head) :D - but can UV-map the rest of the cabin and put for someone to finish the texture work ... 

Those look actually like not smoothed mesh normals. In practice that means there are multiple normals per vertex, and importer has to duplicate the vertices just to achieve that non-smooth look. If you smooth the mesh, there will be a single normal per vertex, smaller mesh after import, and a better look. Non-smooth mesh is used where you actually need to obtain an edge.

The upper part is a 35 segment half-circle with a 14 vert. oval equal-sided triangle (profile is as it should be at the orig. real-life wheel). No doubles there. for a edge, you can (in accordance to the edge radius) smooth it up physically by adding 1-3 edges. But up-close, equi-distant and equi-angled points (specially at circles)
go always "edgy" when coming close enough for the optical blending effect to kick in. (compare the instrument panel clocks - if ya sit up-straight in the seat and when ya go look at the very details of the circle). Always just so much there can be done white geometry at certain distance - just like the Pythagoras circle-test by using a rope and ever dividing a square.

   Normal mapping is there-for much appreciated when light gets un-evenly distributed at the edges creating an optical illusion of blending-in with the faces.
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2014, 05:05:39 am »

Nah, you've got it everywhere, each surface is not smooth:



That's pretty high triangulation, yet your surfaces are flat-shaded. Most other models have much coarser triangulation, yet they are smooth.
Normals are interpolated, you get a smooth surface by default. Only when each triangle has its own normals, then you get this. Your model will then also have 3x the amount of vertices after import into the engine, as GPUs need to have 1:1 vertex:normal.

Look in your editor for mesh smoothing operation. There should be also a modifier that detects sharp edges and leaves them intact.
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #58 on: May 29, 2014, 06:09:43 am »

... will look into that ...
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Re: Ural 4320-31
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2014, 09:49:38 am »

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