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[HiFlyer]

I remember early Outerra very well. The all green (mostly) earth was park-like and almost soothingly idyllic. The shades of the terrain worked well together, but things have changed. Since the biomes update, the green of the grass now seems garishly unrealistic; a day-glow glare that makes it hard to believe in the realism of Outerras world. (at least for me.)

I find myself avoiding forested areas now because of the dark green, almost black in some light trees, contrasting so wildly with the bright, bright green of the grass that I keep thinking of an earth splattered with pistachio ice cream, slowly growing fungus! 

Is it just me? Too sensitive? 

Or will there be changes, and an artist (Kevin R?) brought in with a less jarring palette?

Inquiring minds are desperate to know.

Its really beginning to cut into my flying pleasure! 

[cameni]

The Blue Marble asserts there's this and that overall color. OT tries to split the colors into green and dirt so that when the fractal mixer blends them, the overall colors is back.
Now the splitter is mostly heuristics that doesn't work that well in all cases, and will be adjusted. Another problem is that BM colors are sometimes a result of severe blending, and trying to isolate the base colors from that is really problematic without fixing the colors first (mainly de-bluing it).

Anyway, lets make some screens to document the current state and to be sure what we are talking about

[HiFlyer]

This would be a good example and its not uncommon at all.  Those colors are of a landscape alright, but not an earthly one! 

These are default settings except for atmospheric scattering.

Pistachio Ice Cream world!!

The grass at ground level comes off okay even if very lightly colored, but from the air the contrast between fluorescent green grass and deep/dark (Nearly black in some cases) trees can be very stark and unnatural.

[HiFlyer]

Srry double post.

[cameni]

Ok, I didn't know what you meant by the black trees.
Right now trees just darken the original color, and they don't even reflect how light the terrain was previously (unlike grass). Back when everything was green it didn't contrast that much, but obviously in this biome the trees would not have that color.

Still, the fact the trees are here at all is weird. This seems that the biome colors and the vegetation density channel are quite mismatched here.

[HiFlyer]

Ok, I didn't know what you meant by the black trees.
Right now trees just darken the original color, and they don't even reflect how light the terrain was previously (unlike grass). Back when everything was green it didn't contrast that much, but obviously in this biome the trees would not have that color.

Still, the fact the trees are here at all is weird. This seems that the biome colors and the vegetation density channel are quite mismatched here.

You can even see the same thing in some posted videos and pictures out there. I did a reality check to see if it was just me for a while before making this post. I've just never seen grass that color. From any height.

[DeanosBeano]

Agreed the Algae like luminescent green must die it ruins any ariel footage / view .

Desaturation of the satelite or whatever  writes the colour is required  definitely , still its not a gamebreaker but would be one day .
 
 

[2eyed]

This is something that bothers me too since the biomes update. I mentioned it earlier.

Overall and mainly from high above, the color map is a great step towards realism.
Can we do something about the garish colors at lower altitude? Maybe tone down brightness and saturation dynamically when going down to ground level?
I did a comparison of  grassy terrain default vs with reduced saturation/brightness.

and cameni wrote:
"Colors - yes it's using compiled Blue Marble data, the problem is that the colors there do not represent raw color values, but were manipulated to make them fit into a single color map. It's non-linear, and we need to apply a reverse transformation - this too is subject to further evolution."
What I hear now is it seem to be not that simple.

[Revolver]

....The Grass Must Die!!
Its really beginning to cut into my flying pleasure! 

Let the Ganja in rest....

[HiFlyer]

Agreed the Algae like luminescent green must die it ruins any ariel footage / view .

Desaturation of the satelite or whatever  writes the colour is required  definitely , still its not a gamebreaker but would be one day .

Not a game-breaker for Outerra fans, who hope it will be addressed, but I have already seen one YouTube comment that the colors are "too weird"

It can kinda drag you out of what you are doing when you are so busy reacting to the colors that it distracts from the main focus... which is flying and enjoying the view!!

Desert areas and snowy areas are quite acceptable, so this is unfortunate.




I wonder what color data Proland used?

[cameni]

Can you post the location? The screenshot seems to have been stripped of GPS data.

[HiFlyer]

Can you post the location? The screenshot seems to have been stripped of GPS data.

Unfortunately no. It really was just a random screenshot. I will try and find it or a similar area if you want me too, though.

[cameni]

If you have it stored on your computer, you can send me that file or upload it to minus.com (they don't strip EXIF data). All OT screenshots have GPS data attached, and one can jump into the screen by dropping it on outerra.exe.

That reminds me I should switch the cam files for saved locations to jpeg files ...

[HiFlyer]

If you have it stored on your computer, you can send me that file or upload it to minus.com (they don't strip EXIF data). All OT screenshots have GPS data attached, and one can jump into the screen by dropping it on outerra.exe.

That reminds me I should switch the cam files for saved locations to jpeg files ...

Well here it is if others would like a look and also sending you a PM just in case.

[cameni]

Thanks, this is how that particular location looks like in the current internal build: