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Re: CARsim
« Reply #180 on: January 11, 2016, 10:45:26 pm »

Is this a David Bowie tribute?...
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #181 on: January 13, 2016, 05:08:35 am »

Now i dont know if there is something actually wrong with the importer, or blenders FBX exporter (doe, wasn an issue before) .... done a clean install of OT ... just re-parented all stuff on the model (so asically no change), made a .fbx and .dae export .... result:

--- FBX Importer - the same issue as before - all things in list, half missing rendering.

--- Collada Importer - all stuff there as it should (but shows all the stuff including collision meshes, witch the FBX normally hides).





So, now i dont know (guess i try another Blender version) ... here are the files and the collada imported version :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ZscF0ox2AGME9teTRFY0hCRnc/view?usp=sharing
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #182 on: January 13, 2016, 07:56:40 am »

Ok, посмотрим.

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Здесь
http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3296.msg39703#msg39703
angrypig просит исходники моделей
Ural-4320-31_6x6_CHASIS
AmmoBox_Wood_23x152mm_63pc
Что бы выяснить причины не корректной работы метода attach_to()
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #183 on: January 13, 2016, 08:43:38 am »

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https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BA7B7E2655BF556D!6939&authkey=!AEsTA02cUBgGeKc&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

UFO :)


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А это видимо есть причина этого
http://forum.outerra.com/index.php?topic=3360.msg39643#msg39643
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// ZS-23-2_AAGun.log

WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.410@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.113@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.411@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
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WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.037@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.116@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.115@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.035@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.036@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
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WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Mesh.001@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
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WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Mesh.002@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.156@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
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WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.215@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.144@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
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WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.108@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
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WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.041@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
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WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.222@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.050@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.228@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.238@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.049@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.133@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.033@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
WARNING: Cannot compute the correct tangents for mesh "Circle.314@0"! (missing/wrong UVs)
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #184 on: January 14, 2016, 02:33:12 am »

 ... ah  ... i have all the stuff including boxes in the main Blender file, so at export i have to drag eaxh thing to 0.0.0. position ... doe, didnt do for this one as for testing out the importer thing (out of speed) ... ill reupload it centered and white textures right away ... also, can those collision meshes at the wheels stay as they are ? (it should now stand up properly when animated ... but still the enabling and disabling of wheels as in aircrafts would be needed, otherwise, it will still do some improper things).

As for that UFO - if im right its just like any vehicle - bad mass+bad gravity center+bad wheel-property mix. That allways makes them models froggy-jump.

That log just lists parts witch had an else texture-path selected in blender, nothing out of ordinary (have them at multiple places also as a backup policy ... just sometimes forget to re-point them, but has no effect on the final import when i modify the matlib file and add all the textures)

... here is the corrected file + textures :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ZscF0ox2AGQS1WZU9LSHlfQjQ/view?usp=sharing
« Last Edit: January 14, 2016, 04:12:50 am by PytonPago »
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #185 on: January 14, 2016, 08:44:56 am »

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Re: CARsim
« Reply #186 on: January 14, 2016, 09:49:58 am »

So many cars built for Outerra over the years, and still nobody has solved the weird vehicle problems.  =|

Why don't planes bounce out of control all over the landscape like this?

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Re: CARsim
« Reply #187 on: January 14, 2016, 10:32:57 am »

So many cars built for Outerra over the years, and still nobody has solved the weird vehicle problems.  =|

Why don't planes bounce out of control all over the landscape like this?

PytonPago translate plz.
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #188 on: January 14, 2016, 12:14:14 pm »

So many cars built for Outerra over the years, and still nobody has solved the weird vehicle problems.  =|

Why don't planes bounce out of control all over the landscape like this?

PytonPago translate plz.
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I was commenting on your ufo video wondering why the problem has never been solved. Almost every outerra car does this, but planes behave properly.
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #189 on: January 14, 2016, 02:29:12 pm »

So many cars built for Outerra over the years, and still nobody has solved the weird vehicle problems.  =|

Why don't planes bounce out of control all over the landscape like this?

PytonPago translate plz.
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I was commenting on your ufo video wondering why the problem has never been solved. Almost every outerra car does this, but planes behave properly.

Тут всё просто, у летающей техники другая физика.
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #190 on: January 14, 2016, 06:01:20 pm »

Тут всё просто, у летающей техники другая физика.

 ... simple, planes are based on totally different physics  - hence JSBSim.


Dont worry HiFlyer ... all stuff will get some more robust form in time ... besides, most vehicles were just imports. Not new script-rewrites. Also, all the stuff Cameny has in plan to implemnt later (slip coeficients for different dirt/surface types etc.) will further push the cars too.
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #191 on: January 15, 2016, 10:36:29 am »

Hi PytonPago!

Добавьте в модель empty axis
BONE_point_magazine_l
BONE_point_magazine_r

Я прошу дать имена какие я указал.
Кости должны размещаться на позициях где раньше были магазины, и по тем же направлениям и углам.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BA7B7E2655BF556D!6948&authkey=!AIVzYR0gPL5sNEQ&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #192 on: January 16, 2016, 05:16:09 am »

Here ya have it SteelRat :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ZscF0ox2AGbE9MUU5JSXhoZnc/view?usp=sharing

The model had such bones named"BONE_ZS-23-2_TurretBase_GunMagazineL/R" but i added those empty axes as you wanted, parented to them.

Also, i didnt mention it but meshes "BONE_FlashL_01/02" nad "BONE_FlashR_01/02" are the ones for the fire-flashing. i done them after some of my refference photos, you could use them separately or flash one after another for a single shot so ya have an effect that it expands ... doe, nicer visual effects are thing of texture props in matlib and further texture-work (im not a big photo-shopper).

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Re: CARsim
« Reply #193 on: January 16, 2016, 08:30:56 am »

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The model had such bones named"BONE_ZS-23-2_TurretBase_GunMagazineL/R" but i added those empty axes as you wanted, parented to them.

Почему я прошу так?
BONE_point_magazine_l
BONE_point_magazine_r


В скрипте эти кости будут иметь имена

point_magazine_l
point_magazine_r

Такой формат позволит мне обращаться к переменным и именам meshes and bones в динамическом режиме.

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var pointName = a==b ? "weapon" : "magazine";
var pointSide = c==d ? "l" : "r";

var boneTM = this.geom.get_bone_model_tm(this.geom.get_joint("point_" + pointName + "_" + pointSide));
// OR
eval("var point_" + pointName + "_" + pointSide + "_id") = this.geom.get_joint("point_" + pointName + "_" + pointSide); // define variable

This format.

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Я уверен в том что при построении модели так же имеет смысл строить форматированное дерево имён мешей и костей, даже если не всё понадобится кодеру)

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Большой плюс форматированной структуры вы можете оценить по функции
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packages\CARsim\Ural-4320-31_6x6_CHASIS\functions\licence_parts.jsИмена этих meshes вы построили по формату, что дало мне возможность написать не большую и изящную функцию с большим выбором параметров на выходе.
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Re: CARsim
« Reply #194 on: January 16, 2016, 03:09:12 pm »

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The model had such bones named"BONE_ZS-23-2_TurretBase_GunMagazineL/R" but i added those empty axes as you wanted, parented to them.

Почему я прошу так?


  ... they were there before too (in the first version i uploadet you), but i kinda forgot to mention it before, that they were there for the magazines ... doe, now you can manipulate trough both of them if the need arises, as your points are parented to them. Maybe the older ones will come in handy someday, so i did it like that.
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