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[HiFlyer]

Menu click boxes are totally out of alignment in Outerra in windows 10

Where the cursor appears on screen and where the actual click point is are completely different.

This has also been a problem on Windows 7 to some extent, but in windows 10, Outerra is almost unuseable for me.

This problem does not appear in Outerra's initial default resolution and lower, but as the resolution gets higher (1920 x 1080) things get silly.

In fact, in the resolution dropdown menu its hard to even select 1920 x1080 because half of the numbers are below the sightline of the selection box!

[cameni]

I assume this is a windowed mode and/or some text scaling applied in Windows screen settings?

[HiFlyer]

I assume this is a windowed mode and/or some text scaling applied in Windows screen settings?

Nope. And no other game or program I have seems to be having this issue. The higher the resolution, the more the offset.

[cameni]

So a full screen mode and no scaling in Windows?

[HiFlyer]

So a full screen mode and no scaling in Windows?

Correct.

Interesting 2 note that at 1680 x 1050 Outerra works fine, unless I check the fullscreen box within outerra, whereupon once again the cursor and the actual visual clickpoint are out of alignment again.

It would be interesting to hear what others using windows 10 and nvidia have to say.

[KW71]

When that happen, can you move the cursor to all the corners, or it does stop before reaching one of them?

I have seen that problem before, and if I recall well was gpu drivers related, but no sure is the same situation. In that occasion it was like the cursor was in the right position, from the point of view of functionality, but the icon was drawn in a different location.

[HiFlyer]

When that happen, can you move the cursor to all the corners, or it does stop before reaching one of them?

I have seen that problem before, and if I recall well was gpu drivers related, but no sure is the same situation. In that occasion it was like the cursor was in the right position, from the point of view of functionality, but the icon was drawn in a different location.

On the left hand side, the cursor goes to the edge of the border correctly. On the right hand side, the cursor can go right off the edge of the screen. Almost like the screen is stretched. All is at default on the Nvidia control panel options I can access.

[KW71]

Have you tried installing another gpu drivers version (whether newer or older)? You could also try with your mouse drivers (in case you have them).

Edit:

Ah, and give it a try disabling Aero (in case Windows 10 have something like that).

[HiFlyer]

Have you tried installing another drivers version (whether newer or older)?

Been doing that pretty much all day yesterday and much of today..... Are you on Windows 10?

[KW71]

No, but we had that problem on my previous work on windows 7...  Give it a try disabling aero...

[cameni]

I think Aero cannot be disabled beyond W7.

Hmm, I was thinking you were referring to a vertical offset (I just fixed that internally), but you are saying that this happens in horizontal direction? Is it a constant offset or it's becoming larger as you go farther right?

[HiFlyer]

The higher the resolution, the further the offset, it seems. By the time you get to 1920 x 1080 everything is offset down and to the right. Since  my windows 10 experiment I've been testing all my old games/programs and I can't find anything else with this issue besides Outerra. Since I use Outerra a lot, I'm considering retreating back to windows 7 if I can't find a solution

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                          Cursor

[HiFlyer]

Missing Outerra a lot, its hard to use it now 

[cameni]

I'm on Win10+NV960 now but no matter what I do I can't reproduce this. Did you also try a clean install of the Nvidia drivers (checkbox on the installer)? What's the computer model, maybe we can find something non-standard with the specs.

[HiFlyer]

Its a self made computer. Clean install of drivers and also using DDU. Deleted and reinstalled Outerra. Same issue, and all other games and programs seem to be working correctly.

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