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mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« on: February 26, 2020, 05:13:20 am »

After a long time here is a new upgrade of the mig29.

It adds several special effects including jet exhaust smoke trail at high thrust
, wingtip condensation trails and over-wing condensation.


These three effects add a lot of fun and realism to the mig29 flying in outerra as you will notice.
You can see how it looks in the demonstrative video below but you'd better try yourself
to enjoy how it "feels" !  :)


Besides I decided to greatly simplify the camera views for better use.

download the mod from here

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cao0k75wk4e6sqj/AAA4uVsE6Rs4UuveqLrcmcM0a?dl=0


presentation video:




Installation: 
click on self-extracting mig29-fly77-upgrade.otx  file

The new model will overwrite my old mig29 fly-by mod
so that you don't have too many different models
and will appear in airplane menu (F3) as  mig29-fly77 icons

Simplified camera views:
I have reduced the first person camera views to four for better useability.
They are accessible by repeatedly pressing the v-key are now only 4:
- cockpit view
- gear view
- flyby camera
- formation flight camera


important:
- press H or J keys to increase / decrease the flyby range.
- press numpad +/- keys to zoom in/out in all camer views

known bug: when taking off in flyby camera view mode for a yet unknown reason sometimes the engine thrust gets switched off in this view mode after the plane has bypassed the camera.


A short explanation of what causes these effects:

Wingtip condensation trails are due to vortices of rotating air left behind a wing as it generates lift
The vortices are sometimes visible because atmospheric water vapor present in them condenses.
Most commonly this occurs on fighterjets flying at high angles of attack in high g maneuvers.

Condensation over wing surfaces is vapor condensing into fog above the wing-surfaces
when flying at high angles of attack or in high g maneuvers and occurs because of an extra-strong depression
over the wings that makes the atmospheric water vapor condense.

Both are more persistent and intense when the atmospheric humidity is higher.
In the mod I used the cloud-coverage as a scale of humidity in the air:
So with more clouds you will see both effects form easier, persist longer and appear more intense.



« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 10:32:10 am by fly77 »
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2020, 05:22:34 am »

Hi Marco!

Gratuliere, Gute Arbeit! Jetzt sollst du noch den Nachbrenner Rauch/Flamme möglichst nah an realen anpassen lassen.
Dann wird's in jede Hinsicht perfekt sein.  ;)

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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2020, 05:36:07 am »

Danke Revolver !  Weitere upgrades sind in Bearbeitung.  ;)
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2020, 07:55:55 am »

Today 27/2/2020 I have slightly tuned the intensity of the effects reducing them to make them more realistic - as they eventually were too intense/frequent.  So please redownload from above.
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2020, 11:34:27 am »

it doesn't install me .. I've looked in the folder and I don't see it   >:(
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2020, 12:01:11 pm »

Sorry ..I had zipped it with wrong folder structure. so it unzipped by mistake into outerra/flyby-withsmoke-trails-2020  folder (delete it!) 
I have corrected it ..so Redownload again now
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2020, 01:59:03 pm »

very good fly77, it's great .. we will make some videos to enjoy it. I'll ask you for things, we'll see if we are able to make a more continuous wake, and some more effect.
Thank you very much for your time
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2020, 02:15:39 pm »

OK great ! I'm glad you like it. More continuous wake - especially at high speeds - with the current smoke system seems a little difficult to me, but I can continue to experiment. Especially I want to add afterburner flame in the future. Other suggestions are wellcome :)
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2020, 03:49:58 pm »

maybe sonic boom breaking soundbarrier effect ? 

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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2020, 04:47:21 pm »

that would not be bad.jejejeje. but we settle for less, yours is well done, I was only referring to the shape or smoke or the trail of condensation.
But your work is well done, I just try to encourage you to improve yourself :)


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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2020, 05:13:11 pm »

I wished I had a stable fly-by camera or ground camera.. still could not get a really stable one in outerra.
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2020, 06:17:51 pm »

It would be fun to get that shockwave condensation effect when the speed of sound is exceeded ... dare you?

A small test, to combine progress with the pleasure of flying.


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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2020, 06:35:01 pm »

Its addictive :)   I suggest you to press several times the H key to get a larger time of flyby..as you fly very fast. Also if you want to see more smoke and condensation increase cloud coverage (humidity)..but I know you like to fly in sunny weather  ;)
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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2020, 04:49:38 am »

I wished I had a stable fly-by camera or ground camera.. still could not get a really stable one in outerra.

I have found how to do it !!! much better visuals ! Will optimize it for best use and also add a fixed ground camera at this point ! Airshows are within reach now ! Everything to come in the next upgrade ..with some of the mentioned additional & improved effects   :)

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Re: mig 29 mod with contrails : release
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2020, 05:48:02 pm »

Here (re-download from above) is a new mig29 upgrade !




As promised I have implemented now

- corrected wingtip vortices and wing-condensation effects

- improved thrust smoke trail

- MOST IMPORTANTLY: a new reliable and really stable
fly-by camera as it is found in commercial flight-simulators.
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The improved fly-camera  is a game changer since it allows you to
fly the plane like a remote-controlled plane, observing it from
a fixed camera position during all its maneuvers, so effectively
enabling airshows !


For the "airshow mode" increase the fly-by range sufficiently by pressing repeatedly (2 or 3 times or more) The H-key !!
Also use the NUMPAD +/- keys to zoom in when the plane is making its maneouvers at a large distance


« Last Edit: March 01, 2020, 05:57:41 pm by fly77 »
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