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[Tampa]

O.O ok, worth the effort, holy ***. This is better than any drug, thanks for the help!

[Wawron]

I have problem with graphic drivers, they are too old. But I have problem with update. I have Radeon HD 3470 and it's hard to find latest drivers. Can anybody help me?

[cameni]

Well, 3470 is quite slow, but it should work nonetheless. Download drivers for your operating system here: http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx
If you are still getting the warning after installing these, please follow the instructions in the first post

[Wawron]

I still have problem. On the beginning I had 6.14.0010.6783 drivers version. I updated (with Moblilty Modder) to ...0010.6891, but game still didn't work. So I download drivers from here:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_xp-32.aspx
After installation (I used Mobility Modder) version of drivers... wasn't changed :/ . I don't know what I did wrong. Maybe I try without Mobility Modder.

[cameni]

Check the version of atioglxx.dll, should be 6.14.10.11631.
If it's not, you have to do a clean install.

[Wawron]

I delete all amd files, with Driver Sweeper. Then I install latest drivers. Now I am without drivers :/ . They just doesn't work!
And how to check version of atioglxx?

Folder "Ati Technologies" in C:/Program Files is empty. I don't know why, because I was installing drivers in this folder.

[cameni]

It's in Windows\system32

[Wawron]

Version of atioglxx is 6.14.10.10834 . So it's good. But I still don't have driver. DxDiag and Minecraft says, that I have no drivers. I have no idea why it doesn't work.

[cameni]

Catalyst 12.4 contains atioglxx.dll version 6.14.10.11631, so you have something older.

The latest mobility drivers are here:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/mobile/12-4_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc.exe (64 bit)
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/mobile/12-4_mobility_vista_win7_32_dd_ccc.exe (32 bit)

[Wawron]

I have Windows XP. I try find drivers for XP.
But for XP is only that older.
I've return to old drivers. They working perfect. I don't know what's wrong with these new ones.

Woo I did it! ATI Installation Manager is a piece of shit, so I installed drivers trough device manager and all works perfect! Outerra too Thanks for help.

[mikkl]

Other graphics cards

For other chips you'll get a warning about unknown/untested manufacturer. Intel doesn't support OpenGL 3.3 and Outerra won't run on it. If you decide to run it, it will quit with an error or crash.

This is not accurate anymore. Intel HD Graphics 4000 supports OpenGL 3.3 as well as 4.0. The game starts with a black screen and nothing happens. Is this a game or driver issue?

[cameni]

Yes, fresh Intel drivers from May. Please attach eng.log here to see if anything's there.

Also, black screens with Nvidia and AMD cards point to other utilities that inject into applications and can't handle a more complex rendering loop like ours.

[mikkl]

But only with Ivy Bridge graphics, Sandy Bridge reports still OpenGL 3.1. The log from my attempt with the OpenGL 3.3 driver is below.

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INFO: Outerra 0.7.11, build 3083 from Sun, 20 May 2012 21:00:50 GMT
INFO: Nvidia driver profile "Outerra" found...
INFO: Initializing engine...
INFO: data root directory: C:\Users\Ralf\Outerra\
INFO: Windows version: 6.1.7601
INFO: CPU info:
CPU string: GenuineIntel
CPU brand string:        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Stepping ID: 9
Model: 10
Family: 6
Processor type: 0
Extended model: 3
Extended family: 0
Brand Index: 0
CLFLUSH cache line size: 64
APIC Physical ID: 2

INFO: GPU System info
    Graphics card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
    GPU vendor ID: 8086 (Intel Corporation)
    GPU device ID: 0162
    OpenGL driver version:  (igldev32.dll)
    OpenGL driver build number: 0


INFO: Reading C:\Users\Ralf\Outerra\eng.cfg
INFO:   init timer to 1ms
INFO: Outerra window created size 1286x748
INFO: Starting JobMaster...
INFO: Creating JobMaster thread 0
INFO: Creating JobMaster thread 1
INFO: Creating JobMaster thread 2
INFO: Creating JobMaster thread 3
INFO: Creating JobMaster thread 4
INFO: Creating JobMaster thread 5
INFO: Creating JobMaster thread 6
INFO: Creating JobMaster thread 7
INFO: Event "reverse" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "reverse" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "steer_left" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "steer_left" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "accelerate" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "accelerate" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "steer_right" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "steer_right" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "elevator_up" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "rudder_right" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "flaps_down" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "flaps_up" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "elevator_down" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "pause_simulation" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "brake" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "rudder_left" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "aileron_right" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "start_stop_engine" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "aileron_left" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "trim" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "cyclic_longitudal_back" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "toggle_hover_mode" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "cyclic_lateral_right" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "anti_torque_right" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "cyclic_longitudal_forward" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "cyclic_lateral_left" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
INFO: Event "anti_torque_left" already defined, overriding with latest definition.
DEBUG: (io_man) event group "player" has been activated...
INFO: Available display modes:
    320x200@60 center
    320x200@60 stretch
    320x200@60 default
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INFO:
ERROR: soundman: Open capture device failed!
INFO: Sound system information
    Using OpenAL device (DirectSound Default)
    ALC_FREQUENCY: 44100
    ALC_REFRESH: 43
    ALC_SYNC: 0
    ALC_MONO_SOURCES: 255
    ALC_STEREO_SOURCES: 1


DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 250ms
DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 253ms
INFO: Active modules:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Outerra\Anteworld\outerra.exe (Outerra s.r.o, Anteworld), version .   
C:\Program Files (x86)\Outerra\Anteworld\CrashRpt.dll (Unknown Company, CrashRpt), version 1.2.0.10
C:\Program Files (x86)\Outerra\Anteworld\c4e.dll (Unknown Company, Unknown Product), version unknown
C:\Program Files (x86)\Outerra\Anteworld\OpenAL32.dll (Unknown Company, Unknown Product), version unknown
C:\Windows\system32\nvapi.dll (NVIDIA Corporation, NVIDIA Windows drivers), version 8.17.13.0142

INFO: renderer: thread started...
INFO: Searching suitable pixel format...
INFO: Pixel format has been found: 7
INFO: Setting pixel format
INFO: Creating temporary OpenGL rendering context
INFO: Setting temporary rendering context as current
INFO: Creating main OpenGL rendering context
INFO: Setting main rendering context as current
INFO: OpenGL renderer information
    vendor: Intel
    renderer: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
    version: 3.3.0 - Build 8.15.10.2761
    renderer: 3.30 - Intel Build 8.15.10.2761
    GL_MAX_BINDABLE_UNIFORM_SIZE_EXT: 0
    GL_MAX_VERTEX_BINDABLE_UNIFORMS_EXT: 0
    GL_MAX_GEOMETRY_BINDABLE_UNIFORMS_EXT: 0
    GL_MAX_FRAGMENT_BINDABLE_UNIFORMS_EXT: 0
    extensions:
INFO: Buffer created (1) 'dummy_ati' size 16KB
INFO: Buffer created (2) 'renderer_vtx_vbo' size 48KB
INFO: renderer: OpenGL initialized...
INFO: creating window manager...
DEBUG: Loading texture ("textures\default.dds")...
INFO: (WM) Loading font "ui/default.fnt...
DEBUG: Loading texture ("ui/default_0.dds")...
INFO: (WM) Loading font "ui/default_mono.fnt...
INFO: (WM) Loading font "ui/default_bold.fnt...
DEBUG: job "tex2d_loader_job" processed in 117ms
DEBUG: Loading texture ("ui/default_mono_0.dds")...
DEBUG: job "tex2d_loader_job" processed in 120ms
DEBUG: Loading texture ("ui/default_bold_0.dds")...
DEBUG: job "tex2d_loader_job" processed in 116ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_loader_job" processed in 83ms
INFO: Reading C:\Users\Ralf\Outerra\world.cfg
INFO: Initializing worldview ...
INFO: (WM) Loading font "ui/hud.fnt...
DEBUG: (io_man) event group "ufo" has been activated...
DEBUG: (player) interactor "ufo" activated...
INFO: Starting main loop...
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 54ms
INFO: Buffer created (3) 'mpr.road' size 0KB
INFO: Buffer created (4) 'mpr.road' size 0KB
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 73ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 133ms
INFO: Buffer created (5) 'mpr.road' size 0KB
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 200ms
INFO: Buffer created (6) 'mpr.stars' size 2084KB
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 268ms
INFO: Buffer created (7) 'mpr.aux' size 0KB
INFO: Buffer created (8) 'mpr.aux' size 0KB
INFO: Buffer created (9) 'mpr.aux' size 88KB
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 352ms
INFO: Buffer created (10) 'mpr.aux' size 76KB
INFO: Buffer created (11) 'mpr.aux' size 1584KB
INFO: Buffer created (12) 'ub.frac_params' size 1KB
INFO: Buffer created (13) 'pkg::instances' size 896KB
INFO: Buffer created (14) 'pkg bboxes' size 512KB
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 355ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 398ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 424ms
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DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 542ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 543ms
DEBUG: Loading texture ("textures/AustrianPine.dds")...
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 565ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_loader_job" processed in 600ms
DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 605ms
DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 613ms
DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 656ms
DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 691ms
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DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 930ms
DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 942ms
DEBUG: job "sndfile_load_task" processed in 950ms
DEBUG: Loading texture ("ui/hud_0.dds")...
DEBUG: job "tex2d_loader_job" processed in 971ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 856ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 857ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 857ms
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DEBUG: Loading texture ("textures/rotrandom2.dds")...
DEBUG: job "tex2d_slice_loader_job" processed in 861ms
DEBUG: job "tex2d_loader_job" processed in 641ms
INFO: Buffer created (15) 'texture_widget' size 18KB
INFO: Initializing framebuffer
size: 1280x720
fulscreen: 0
msaa: 1
swap_interval: 2
INFO: Buffer created (16) 'buffer framebuffer' size 900KB
INFO: creating another buffer for capture
INFO: Buffer created (17) 'buffer framebuffer' size 900KB
INFO: creating another buffer for capture
INFO: Buffer created (18) 'buffer framebuffer' size 900KB
INFO: creating another buffer for capture
INFO: Buffer created (19) 'buffer framebuffer' size 900KB
INFO: creating another buffer for capture
INFO: Buffer created (20) 'unknown_buffer' size 80KB
INFO: Creating render state groups...
INFO: Buffer created (21) 'tr_lods_buf' size 64KB
INFO: Buffer created (22) 'ui_buffer' size 5120KB
INFO: Buffer created (23) 'sbox index' size 0KB
INFO: Buffer created (24) 'sbox bboxes' size 272KB
INFO: Buffer created (25) 'ub.gpu_frame_state' size 1KB
INFO: shader s0CF569C31C2FB1FF402B855A911817DE5462D419 compiled succesfully
INFO: shader s3B2E8FCD6074C9DEE852132187655405B21187E0 compiled succesfully
INFO: shader sD3A383732BC2BEB51B8A3A4CAAEA74D9C44D0669 compiled succesfully
INFO: shader sA3E3B7FF75ECCF75FD4C29D60E64C33F0043338B compiled succesfully
INFO: shader s1AB429DCD3B93FA828B95B3E9992353C0F18F559 compiled succesfully
INFO: shader s0CF569C31C2FB1FF402B855A911817DE5462D419 compiled succesfully
INFO: shader s00B82EBD489D96EFCA481CD7F65125E149F766FF compiled succesfully
INFO: shader sF518B87DAEF20C39F037C6B0F431FB85E024560A compiled succesfully
INFO: shader s9103C6407E2080545F6124BF7F52E19D06FE8E2F compiled succesfully
INFO: Buffer created (26) 'unknown_buffer' size 64KB
INFO: shader s0CF569C31C2FB1FF402B855A911817DE5462D419 compiled succesfully
ERROR: error compiling the program `tree_renderer'
ERROR: 0:1653: 'Error' : Cannot offset into the vector
ERROR: 0:1653: 'Error' : Cannot offset into the vector
ERROR: 0:1654: 'Error' : Cannot offset into the vector
ERROR: 0:1654: 'Error' : Cannot offset into the vector
ERROR: 0:1654: 'constructor' : too many arguments


ERROR: aborted
INFO: Exiting renderer thread...

[cameni]

Some shaders fail to compile, and those zero-sized max counts don't look good either. I hope Intel doesn't just declare support of some of the features but sets the numbers of corresponding entities to zero, an old trick.

Ok, we need to dig out a supported Intel integrated graphics computer and test it there. Thanks for the report.

[mikkl]

It seems the driver is lacking GL_EXT_bindable_uniform extension. Could this make an issue?