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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #225 on: December 03, 2012, 12:23:37 pm »

There is no freeze anymore with Intel HD4000. But it looks like this: http://s1.directupload.net/images/121203/5jlvqzk3.png
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #226 on: December 07, 2012, 09:52:33 pm »

Howdy, I just downloaded the demo and all I get is the black screen and nothing else. Under that black, I do have some buttons and text fields (the mouse changes accordingly) but that is it. I have attached my log below.

Thanks for the help
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #227 on: December 08, 2012, 01:07:31 am »

Please use the development version, newer AMD drivers have bug that causes shader compilation to fail, but there's a workaround for that issue in the dev branch.
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #228 on: December 08, 2012, 03:49:59 pm »

Okay, That got me into Outerra and to start flying around, but only for a minute or two before the driver "failed and recovered" leaving me with a white window.

I have attached the eng log below. I understand the AMD are having probs, so this might be part of it still.
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #229 on: December 08, 2012, 04:00:26 pm »

Yes there are still some issues on AMD, though we haven't encountered them on 6xxx series for a long time. Does it happen repeatedly to you?
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #230 on: December 08, 2012, 05:22:52 pm »

Yeah, unfortunately. I think the longest was after about 5 min of flying about. Once after a 'crash" in game (ran into the ground = white screen), but the others were as I was flying (high or low)
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #231 on: December 09, 2012, 03:16:30 am »

Hmm the only obvious difference is that you have AMD HydraVision there, though it would be quite ironic if that was causing extra crashes:
C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\HydraVision\HydraDMH.dll (AMD, AMD HydraVision Desktop Manager), version 4.0.64
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #232 on: December 09, 2012, 03:41:41 pm »

I was actually looking at that and thinking of turning it off. Should I?
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #233 on: December 09, 2012, 03:45:55 pm »

Yes please try to turn it off to see if it helps.
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #234 on: December 09, 2012, 05:18:48 pm »

I checked various devices and services and do not see so far anything wrong on our config...
There seems to be an issue specific to 32-bit version of Windows XP and the amount of memory that can be mapped between CPU and GPU. We seem to be running out of this memory there with our current usage pattern.
Other Windows versions do not have this problem, as they have the limits for non-paged memory much higher than XP32. We are looking at what can be done about it.

Meanwhile, do you have a newer OS somewhere to test with?
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #235 on: December 09, 2012, 08:34:27 pm »

I turned off both the 32 and 64 bit versions of HydraDM and tried after closing each....no joy after about a minute of flying (freeze, blackout, then window filled with white...) eng.log attached
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #236 on: December 10, 2012, 04:21:01 am »

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Meanwhile, do you have a newer OS somewhere to test with?

We already run OT since months on various Win 7 64b laptops and it is Ok
(of course the laptops are not powerful enough to have a nice experience, they are business laptops, high end but not gaming configs.)
 
We could upgrade one of our Win XP workstations with Win 7/64, or make a double OS boot...
double boot choice might the route, I just want to make sure that our old Win XP soft do not stop working.
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #237 on: December 11, 2012, 04:47:51 pm »

I turned off both the 32 and 64 bit versions of HydraDM and tried after closing each....no joy after about a minute of flying (freeze, blackout, then window filled with white...) eng.log attached
You are using the 12.10 Catalyst driver, right? Might be worth testing it with 12.11 beta drivers, although I have got a feeling that it made our 7850 unstable in turn. But we don't have problems on 6850.
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #238 on: December 11, 2012, 07:41:06 pm »

Okay....

Now understand that I am not a techy type, so I need to ask, What does going to a beta version of the driver risk for my system? Is there a way to roll that back if needed?
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Re: Graphics driver issues, startup problems
« Reply #239 on: December 12, 2012, 02:00:39 am »

Betas usually contain some new enhancements that weren't yet thoroughly tested, which may lead to some driver crashes. But that's rare for apps that already work ok.
Usually you can revert back to the previous drivers normally. However, if you aren't comfy with it, just wait for the final drivers, should be out soon.
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