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Author Topic: Terrain self-shadowing preview  (Read 38605 times)

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Terrain self-shadowing preview
« on: April 26, 2012, 11:01:46 am »

Here are couple of images with terrain self-shadowing in action.







There are still several issues and bugs to solve before it can be made public though, as it doesn't work in all conditions yet. I've selected only the nice ones :)
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 11:23:06 am »

Woo! I've been waiting for this update! Looks great, I can't wait to see it in action. Great work!
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 11:35:10 am »

NICE!
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 11:38:21 am »

It is not just better, it almost changes the whole thing! Now it gives me the motivation to do an other time-lapse video.
Congratulations, Cameni.
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 11:56:45 am »

how easy would it be for you to add in shadow PCSS? was gonna ask if you could release the uncompiled shaders so i could have a look myself but seeing as how your messing with them atm here's the link for the shader source...http://developer.download.nvidia.com/shaderlibrary/webpages/shader_library.html#shadow_PCSS
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2012, 12:22:33 pm »

Does it block the sun haze that appears through the mountains? Like this.

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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2012, 12:37:33 pm »

Amazing! Great update. The self-shadowing looks pretty cool!

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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 12:44:43 pm »

Talk about doubling the quality of this engine..  Keep up the great work !!!
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 01:46:07 pm »

Does it block the sun haze that appears through the mountains?
Not yet, it's one of the things that need to be fixed.
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 02:42:52 pm »

Does it also have issues with really acute angles of the sun?
I tried some terrain self shadowing and remember having huge problems when the sun approaches the horizon!
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 03:00:20 pm »

Yeah !
Quick questions :

How much is it affecting framerate ?
Do you plan to add soft shadows ?
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 03:42:01 pm »

We didn't make any measurements yet, as the algorithm is going to change, to fix glitches, expand the range. It should speed it up as well.

Acute angles - the light gains darker orange colors, contrast is lower, so the errors are less visible even though that case can be problematic. But it's too soon to tell too.
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2012, 06:44:07 pm »

A bit off topic and I know there isn't actually a real sun in there yet, but is the optical illusion that causes the sun/moon to look larger at the horizon be doable?  And would it be an actual optical illusion or just making the sun physically larger when it's at the horizon?
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2012, 10:33:45 pm »

I logged in this afternoon, and missed this thread completely.  Log in now to clean up the unread posts icons, and kick myself in the behind for missing it entirely.

Holy cow, that's gorgeous :)  I can't wait!
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Re: Terrain self-shadowing preview
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2012, 01:20:24 am »

A bit off topic and I know there isn't actually a real sun in there yet, but is the optical illusion that causes the sun/moon to look larger at the horizon be doable?  And would it be an actual optical illusion or just making the sun physically larger when it's at the horizon?
Well, since the illusion is in your brain, it should work without us doing anything, as long as there are accompanying details near the horizon that make up for it. I personally never noticed Moon being extra larger, except in Hollywood movies and infected games. We won't.
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