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Anteworld - Outerra Game => Tech demo, support, updates => Topic started by: DenisJ on February 16, 2015, 07:46:08 pm
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So, I began to notice some perfomance issues compared to previous times, and I would appreciate if you could help me figure this out. On the average I get only about 20 fps considering that my pc is pretty decent. Here is a screen of my graphics settings (I have reduced them for the sake of experiment) as well as eng.log. Frankly, I have always thought that Outerra doesn't use the computer resources at full capacity. I also checked for injected modules, but nothing is there.
(http://i.imgur.com/UrLxg7L.png)
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I don't have a clue what's up, but with those settings (which are below my normal) I average over 100fps.
Something is wrong.
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I get about 33FPS at 4k resolution with a single 290x GPU and AMD 8core CPU. I would get allot more if Outerra worked with Crossfire but 33fps is fine for now. (I get 60+++ in 1080p)
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So, I began to notice some perfomance issues compared to previous times, and I would appreciate if you could help me figure this out. On the average I get only about 20 fps considering that my pc is pretty decent. Here is a screen of my graphics settings (I have reduced them for the sake of experiment) as well as eng.log. Frankly, I have always thought that Outerra doesn't use the computer resources at full capacity. I also checked for injected modules, but nothing is there.
Hmm, nothing wrong in the log, but we need to add FPS and timing information there.
If you have debug_keys=true in eng.cfg, please make us a screen with alt+2 status window on.
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Hmm, nothing wrong in the log, but we need to add FPS and timing information there.
If you have debug_keys=true in eng.cfg, please make us a screen with alt+2 status window on.
Here it is, I guess
(http://i.imgur.com/H41wvy5.png)
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Something is eating the frame time there, 42ms total but the rest of the numbers do not add up ...
Did you try resetting Nvidia control panel to defaults? Also shut down any unnecessary programs, especially ones that display various in-game overlays.
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No luck :(
I reset the Nvidia 3D parameters and reinstalled Outerra. Steam is the only known to me program with this overlay thing, and I closed it, but I still don't notice any significant improvements. Maybe there are utilities which can directly check GPU consumption process-wise, but unfortunately I'm not aware of such
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No luck :(
I reset the Nvidia 3D parameters and reinstalled Outerra. Steam is the only known to me program with this overlay thing, and I closed it, but I still don't notice any significant improvements. Maybe there are utilities which can directly check GPU consumption process-wise, but unfortunately I'm not aware of such
Hi please make screenshot (F8) from the location and send it to us...
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No luck :(
I reset the Nvidia 3D parameters and reinstalled Outerra. Steam is the only known to me program with this overlay thing, and I closed it, but I still don't notice any significant improvements. Maybe there are utilities which can directly check GPU consumption process-wise, but unfortunately I'm not aware of such
Hi please make screenshot (F8) from the location and send it to us...
Alrighty, it becomes too crowdy in the main thread so I created a separate topic. Angry pig requested a screen, so here it is. Do you need anything else?
(http://i.imgur.com/Fhi4m9X.jpg)
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It would be nice to know whether it's a solvable kind of problem in the short term or should I try reinstalling operating system, which is probably my last shot. I really don't want to distract you from your daily routine and improving this masterpiece, but the whole thing quite deteriorates my game experience :с
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So far nothing helped to identify the possible cause. Nothing special, default scenery :(
Looks like something with the drivers to us. Even the reported lag doesn't correspond to the fps. I'd try DDU cleaner and reinstall the drivers first, even though we haven't seen a problem like this with Nvidia before, so it's questionable if it will help.
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Maybe a stupid question, but have you tried running other games/engines than Outerra? If you see this kind of slowdown in various games, it could be an hardware problem...
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It's getting interesting...
Thank you, I'll try this.
Maybe a stupid question, but have you tried running other games/engines than Outerra? If you see this kind of slowdown in various games, it could be an hardware problem...
Well, sure, I ran a bunch of games recently, but I can't say there is any perfomance drop going on. Most of them run with maxed graphics settings just fine.
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Sometimes when i'm playing it runs at a constant 50/60 FPS, but suddenly it drops and stays to 10/15 FPS for no reason until i restart the game.
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Hmm, my antivirus program shows that DDU cleaner contains a trojan when I'm trying to switch to safe mode. Funny thing is that I downloaded it from the official site
P.S. Yay, thank you so much! I installed november drivers and it worked! I think I can update to the newest one, problem probably was not from Nvidia side, but something wrong with my package.
(http://i.imgur.com/113L5bI.jpg)
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Today it became even worse, 15-18 fps, how could this be? :c
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You might want to try something like process explorer to see exactly what it is your system is getting up too. http://filehippo.com/download_process_explorer
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I reinstalled drivers again and it normalized (i mean, perfomance increased comparing with what was previously). I think it resets and becomes slower after each reboot. This time I didn't update to the latest version, gonna see what will come out of this.
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15-18 fps
And it happened again. I'm not really into reinstalling drivers each time I want to run Outerra smoothly. On the advice of HiFlyer I downloaded the program and that's what it shows. Is it normal that Outerra uses all the resources of the videocard?
(http://i.imgur.com/biZWPFg.jpg)
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It's normal if you have unlocked frame rate, it's a sign of well utilized pipeline. In many programs you have low GPU utilization because it has to wait for the CPU.
Can you run some GPU benchmarks before and after this happens, to confirm that it's not a hardware issue or something? It kind of doesn't make much sense that OT would do something to the GPU/Windows that the card doesn't recover even after system restart.
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I'm not saying that Outerra affects anything, I feel like after reboot something "dumps" or messes up current driver state. However, I'm not a specialist in how this system works and whether this can be possible.
By the way, now I can definitely tell that the "slowdown" occurs after restarting of the computer.
(http://i.imgur.com/jJzV7Jx.png)
*Сorrection to the screenshot - "After that and before shutdown"
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Well, I guess the time has come ^-^
(http://s.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2013-08_2/13759616689602.jpg)
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Wonder what your temperatures are looking like.........
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It seems to me that they are within the normal range. (10 minutes of Outerra)
(http://i.imgur.com/r9BlAvB.png)
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As Alice said.... "Curiouser and curiouser."
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... could you see (trough Ctrl + Alt + Del) what processes run before and after that happens and the full list of stuff in "msconfig" both in services and startup columns ? ... i remember dealing once whyte a virus of some sort hiding itself in the system and blocking various stuff on sisters PC. Maybe there is something in there driving your PC crazy ... but yes, probably a clean system installation would clear that out much easier.
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... could you see (trough Ctrl + Alt + Del) what processes run before and after that happens and the full list of stuff in "msconfig" both in services and startup columns ? ... i remember dealing once with a virus of some sort hiding itself in the system and blocking various stuff on sisters PC. Maybe there is something in there driving your PC crazy ... but yes, probably a clean system installation would clear that out much easier.
Process explorer is designed to do exactly that: It shows not only whats openly running but whats hidden as well, and allows you to kill things Task Manager sometimes Can't/Won't.
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... ah ... didnt notice. Strange as hell then ...
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The dramatic loss of fps (so abrupt) is usually a configuration problem in the BIOS power (TDP) of the video card, you will need to set wats use your card with the power supply, especially clocks in power play .
I'm almost convinced to reinstall the system will not solve the problem. but do not know.
I think you have a technical problem,, certainly find the solution online.
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I used to tweak settings in BIOS, but as for now they are all set by defaults, and it probably should set them automatically according to the hardware fine enough.
I will try reinstalling today or the other day, and will see from there what to do. Also, I googled for similar cases, but nothing revealed.
P.S. Even after windows reinstalling and usual procedure of video driver installation and reboot, gpu_lag is still jumping like crazy. There is some improvement though.
P.P.S. Actually, I didn't consider the fact that graphics work far better after reboot, but get slower after complete turning off and on. Strange...
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Problem resolved. I have contacted nvidia support and they advised me to update my BIOS. It was that simple...
It's actually strange, I never thought that BIOS needs to be updated and that it affects things so drastically.
Oh well, now I finally got a solid framerate in Outerra! :)