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aWac9

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Re: Telescope suggestion.
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 09:00:13 am »


As a Spaniard and out of respect for the memory of my ancestors, I would like to recall the feat of Magallanes and Juan Sebastián el Cano.

At that time, by ancient Greece, it was Pythagoras who proposed the idea that the land was round, but it was a Portuguese and captain general Hernando de Magallanes under the orders of the Spanish King Carlos I who in 1519 sailed from the port of San Lucas Barrameda Sevilla to go around the world, being Juan Sebastián el Cano who circumnavigated the globe after the death of General Magallanes in a battle with natives, arriving at the port of Seville on September 6, 1522 demonstrating empirically that the planet is round
As someone would think to say that this was not so, then there is nothing more to talk about.

Please ... someone can turn the lights off.

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bmende

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Re: Telescope suggestion.
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2017, 05:17:37 pm »

arriving at the port of Seville on September 6, 1522 demonstrating empirically that the planet is round
This kind of east to west circumnavigation can be accomplished on a flat world as well as a spherical one, where the north pole is at the center and going east to west takes you in a circle.

North to South navigation on the azemuthal equidistant (fe map) is impossible. If you were to walk or fly across Antarctica, you would have effectively disproven the commonly accepted Antarctica ice ring theory.

But considering that Antarctica is the only place in the world it seems that planes never cross, you may realize the suspicions that people may have.
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TeslaK20

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Re: Telescope suggestion.
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2017, 01:45:13 pm »

Have you ever heard of Lincoln Ellsworth? He flew right across Antarctica in the 30s. No NASA military ice wall base. His plane had no "NASA conspiracy rigged GPS". And if the flat earth model was right, his plane would have run out of fuel LONG before he reached his destination. Ellsworth planned his flight based on a round earth, and succeeded.

In 1977, Pan American World Airways flew 120 paying passengers directly from South Africa to New Zealand, flying RIGHT OVER the south pole. And they did it MUCH quicker than it could have possibly happened if the Earth was flat. Plus, if the Earth was flat, the passengers would have seen Africa, Europe, Asia, and Australia out of the windows before reaching New Zealand. But no. They saw a small bit of Ocean, Antarctica, a little more Ocean, and New Zealand.

But who knows? You can always come up with excuses. Maybe there's a time warp near antarctica. Maybe there's a magic portal near the edge of the ice wall. Maybe they were abducted by gray aliens, who forced them to lie about what they saw. Or maybe, (god forbid) the Earth might actually be (gasp) round.

Today, you yourself can fly to the south pole for less than 50K dollars. You'll stay at the research station. And the pilots will happily fly you to locations that should be on the other side of the Earth if it was flat.

Of course, you might say, the South Pole station is not really in the South Pole, and it's all just a lie to fool brave explorers. And naturally you won't just accept the location your GPS says, as you believe it's rigged. Well, you're welcome to do it the old fashioned way and use a sextant just like Roald Amundsen did. But, of course, you'd sooner believe that the stars are a NASA hologram than that your flat earth model is wrong.
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